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Topic: LiveCoin.net > Buy/Sell/Exchange>New pairs:RST/BTC, LEDU/BTC, TGAME/BTC - page 28. (Read 63725 times)

full member
Activity: 896
Merit: 236

Today trying to open livecoin.net i see a maintenance message. It's there since a few hours but still nothing seems to change.

Is this a scheduled maintenance? How long time will be needed to have livecoin back online? Are orders still active?

Thank you.
I just check site working OK for me and now I feeling not good so withdrawaing all my coins as its also going to be terrible as we have just few months back Cryptophia eat too many coins now I am not going to have chance as some big accusations already coming.
Working fine also on my end and i already withdrawn all of my coins wayback to this exchange.Its sad that this platform had come to the path of being shady.
Im one of the advertisers of this exchange but look on what happen to this exchange.

Its wise to pull out your coins before its too late and if you do just look on its trust history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=462136
I wont make any doubts on not to trust this exchange.

It's opening correctly for me too now. It was a bit long maintenance but after a few more hours it came back online.

Thanks for your hint but I need to use livecoin too as there are cryptocurrencies that unfortunately are traded only there.
This is really big problem for me as well but now I am using this just for exchange and not keeping my coins as its not good enough to do as already many accusations and we are on very high risk for losing our money.
hero member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 578

Today trying to open livecoin.net i see a maintenance message. It's there since a few hours but still nothing seems to change.

Is this a scheduled maintenance? How long time will be needed to have livecoin back online? Are orders still active?

Thank you.
I just check site working OK for me and now I feeling not good so withdrawaing all my coins as its also going to be terrible as we have just few months back Cryptophia eat too many coins now I am not going to have chance as some big accusations already coming.
Working fine also on my end and i already withdrawn all of my coins wayback to this exchange.Its sad that this platform had come to the path of being shady.
Im one of the advertisers of this exchange but look on what happen to this exchange.

Its wise to pull out your coins before its too late and if you do just look on its trust history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=462136
I wont make any doubts on not to trust this exchange.

It's opening correctly for me too now. It was a bit long maintenance but after a few more hours it came back online.

Thanks for your hint but I need to use livecoin too as there are cryptocurrencies that unfortunately are traded only there.
hero member
Activity: 2730
Merit: 632

Today trying to open livecoin.net i see a maintenance message. It's there since a few hours but still nothing seems to change.

Is this a scheduled maintenance? How long time will be needed to have livecoin back online? Are orders still active?

Thank you.
I just check site working OK for me and now I feeling not good so withdrawaing all my coins as its also going to be terrible as we have just few months back Cryptophia eat too many coins now I am not going to have chance as some big accusations already coming.
Working fine also on my end and i already withdrawn all of my coins wayback to this exchange.Its sad that this platform had come to the path of being shady.
Im one of the advertisers of this exchange but look on what happen to this exchange.

Its wise to pull out your coins before its too late and if you do just look on its trust history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=462136
I wont make any doubts on not to trust this exchange.
full member
Activity: 896
Merit: 236

Today trying to open livecoin.net i see a maintenance message. It's there since a few hours but still nothing seems to change.

Is this a scheduled maintenance? How long time will be needed to have livecoin back online? Are orders still active?

Thank you.
I just check site working OK for me and now I feeling not good so withdrawaing all my coins as its also going to be terrible as we have just few months back Cryptophia eat too many coins now I am not going to have chance as some big accusations already coming.
hero member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 578

Today trying to open livecoin.net i see a maintenance message. It's there since a few hours but still nothing seems to change.

Is this a scheduled maintenance? How long time will be needed to have livecoin back online? Are orders still active?

Thank you.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
I have such a question for the administrators of the LiveCoin exchange how can you delist Monero (XMR) without the right to withdraw a coin by users of the exchange? This means only one thing that all the Monero coins that users on the exchange have on the exchange wants to assign  on 30.08.2019, that is, this is a blatant assignment of funds from traders by the LiveCoin exchange. What is the fault of the Monero holders on your LiveCoin exchange that you take their legitimate money from them? If you had problems with hacking and with Monero developers in the summer of 2018, why should LiveCoin traders pay for this in August 2019? If you respect yourself as a  exchange and your users, then you should give the opportunity to withdraw Monero after delisting the coin, or is there a second option that is not to delist Monero but to continue trading on it as you did since the summer of 2018 and the third option to buy Monero from traders of your LiveCoin exchange at market value if you intend to delist a coin without the right to withdraw. Otherwise, it will be just a blatant robbery of LiveCoin exchange users, and in this case, we LiveCoin traders will draw up a group lawsuit for LiveCoin in court and SEC for the appropriation of funds of exchange users.
The exchange should not close the support of their listings so quickly, a good example for the proper doing business is bts-e with China coin which was in user balances even several years after the blockchain stopped. With this approach to delisting livecoin can lose all remaining users.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1397
I want to ask about the deposit fee using Payeer.com  and AdvCash.com in Livecoin.net

Where the Deposit fee will go, to the Livecoin or to the Payeer/AdvCash?
Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1127
Announcement of new listings:
Yobit Token (YO)

https://www.livecoin.net/en/trading/YO_BTC
Wow! Scam exchange listing token from scam exchange! Excellent!!!
Isnt surprising actually as long shit tokens no matter how shitty they are as long it can make profits towards an exchange owner it would get be listed no matter what.

~snip~
Create this one on scam accusations and let the community know about this stuff.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I have such a question for the administrators of the LiveCoin exchange how can you delist Monero (XMR) without the right to withdraw a coin by users of the exchange? This means only one thing that all the Monero coins that users on the exchange have on the exchange wants to assign  on 30.08.2019, that is, this is a blatant assignment of funds from traders by the LiveCoin exchange. What is the fault of the Monero holders on your LiveCoin exchange that you take their legitimate money from them? If you had problems with hacking and with Monero developers in the summer of 2018, why should LiveCoin traders pay for this in August 2019? If you respect yourself as a  exchange and your users, then you should give the opportunity to withdraw Monero after delisting the coin, or is there a second option that is not to delist Monero but to continue trading on it as you did since the summer of 2018 and the third option to buy Monero from traders of your LiveCoin exchange at market value if you intend to delist a coin without the right to withdraw. Otherwise, it will be just a blatant robbery of LiveCoin exchange users, and in this case, we LiveCoin traders will draw up a group lawsuit for LiveCoin in court and SEC for the appropriation of funds of exchange users.
full member
Activity: 384
Merit: 150
Announcement of new listings:
Yobit Token (YO)

https://www.livecoin.net/en/trading/YO_BTC
Wow! Scam exchange listing token from scam exchange! Excellent!!!
member
Activity: 388
Merit: 55
full member
Activity: 384
Merit: 150
At the moment, izooomrud account is fully unblocked. He can withdraw or sell his funds. Concerning the situation with MONA, we posted news with detailed explanations following this link - https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/261
We are unable to bear more responsibility for an asset, than its developer. It is stated in the User agreement, which a user either accepts at signing up, or doesn't use our Service at all. The fact, that izooomrud used our Service, suggests that he agreed to this clause, saying the following:

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The Service does not bear responsibility for losses incurred by vulnerability or any kind of failure of software (nodes, wallets) used by the third parties, or glitch in the software (nodes, wallets), provided by the third parties, as well as failure of blockchains or any other technical problems specific of Cryptocurrencies traded at the Platform. The Service is not liable for damages due to late report from cryptocurrency developers or representatives (or no report at all) of any issues with cryptocurrency including all sorts of forks, node technical issues or any other issues potentially resulting in fund losses.

Besides alleged theft accusations, this user also made threats against us. His charges have no grounds at all and breach the User agreement rules, which the user accepted at registration, and that leads to the account shut-down.

They held my bitcoins for over a month and blackmailed me to remove all the criticism written by me about them. This means they stole them! Even now they are lying about “threats”, and making all my requests to resolve the issue to look as a threat! Yeah, they gave me back my bitcoins, but Mona's had been stolen and they are not giving them back. This exchange is a scam.
jr. member
Activity: 527
Merit: 6
At the moment, izooomrud account is fully unblocked. He can withdraw or sell his funds. Concerning the situation with MONA, we posted news with detailed explanations following this link - https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/261
We are unable to bear more responsibility for an asset, than its developer. It is stated in the User agreement, which a user either accepts at signing up, or doesn't use our Service at all. The fact, that izooomrud used our Service, suggests that he agreed to this clause, saying the following:

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The Service does not bear responsibility for losses incurred by vulnerability or any kind of failure of software (nodes, wallets) used by the third parties, or glitch in the software (nodes, wallets), provided by the third parties, as well as failure of blockchains or any other technical problems specific of Cryptocurrencies traded at the Platform. The Service is not liable for damages due to late report from cryptocurrency developers or representatives (or no report at all) of any issues with cryptocurrency including all sorts of forks, node technical issues or any other issues potentially resulting in fund losses.

Besides alleged theft accusations, this user also made threats against us. His charges have no grounds at all and breach the User agreement rules, which the user accepted at registration, and that leads to the account shut-down.

Why no MONA darling sent to him? Even if he accepted the rules then as a service provider, aren't you supposed to sort this out for your users instead of asking them to reach out to MONA devs? What's your role then? If his account will be shut down, how will he become able to withdraw his 720 MONA coins from this exchange? Isn't that shady?

Please, please share his threats he gave you?
Were they regarded to laws and all? Why would any user not act over actions they feel shady about?

I think they are trying to recover lost funds by forcing users to sell what they hold at a low market price. That's why I think they will not enable withdraw and they will keep the price of MONA very low.
legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1105
At the moment, izooomrud account is fully unblocked. He can withdraw or sell his funds. Concerning the situation with MONA, we posted news with detailed explanations following this link - https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/261
We are unable to bear more responsibility for an asset, than its developer. It is stated in the User agreement, which a user either accepts at signing up, or doesn't use our Service at all. The fact, that izooomrud used our Service, suggests that he agreed to this clause, saying the following:

Quote
The Service does not bear responsibility for losses incurred by vulnerability or any kind of failure of software (nodes, wallets) used by the third parties, or glitch in the software (nodes, wallets), provided by the third parties, as well as failure of blockchains or any other technical problems specific of Cryptocurrencies traded at the Platform. The Service is not liable for damages due to late report from cryptocurrency developers or representatives (or no report at all) of any issues with cryptocurrency including all sorts of forks, node technical issues or any other issues potentially resulting in fund losses.

Besides alleged theft accusations, this user also made threats against us. His charges have no grounds at all and breach the User agreement rules, which the user accepted at registration, and that leads to the account shut-down.

Why no MONA darling sent to him? Even if he accepted the rules then as a service provider, aren't you supposed to sort this out for your users instead of asking them to reach out to MONA devs? What's your role then? If his account will be shut down, how will he become able to withdraw his 720 MONA coins from this exchange? Isn't that shady?

Please, please share his threats he gave you?
Were they regarded to laws and all? Why would any user not act over actions they feel shady about?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1017
LiveCoin - is a modern stock exchange
At the moment, izooomrud account is fully unblocked. He can withdraw or sell his funds. Concerning the situation with MONA, we posted news with detailed explanations following this link - https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/261
We are unable to bear more responsibility for an asset, than its developer. It is stated in the User agreement, which a user either accepts at signing up, or doesn't use our Service at all. The fact, that izooomrud used our Service, suggests that he agreed to this clause, saying the following:

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The Service does not bear responsibility for losses incurred by vulnerability or any kind of failure of software (nodes, wallets) used by the third parties, or glitch in the software (nodes, wallets), provided by the third parties, as well as failure of blockchains or any other technical problems specific of Cryptocurrencies traded at the Platform. The Service is not liable for damages due to late report from cryptocurrency developers or representatives (or no report at all) of any issues with cryptocurrency including all sorts of forks, node technical issues or any other issues potentially resulting in fund losses.

Besides alleged theft accusations, this user also made threats against us. His charges have no grounds at all and breach the User agreement rules, which the user accepted at registration, and that leads to the account shut-down.
full member
Activity: 384
Merit: 150
When will you give me back my money that you stole for breaking non-existent rules?!
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1483
At the very least (in both instances) provide Livecoin with some kind of bug bounty reward.

okay, but bug bounties are usually pretty tiny. and POW coin developers don't have huge slush funds like ICOs to throw money at things.

The difference between zero and 1 confirmations is almost infinite. Anybody can create a doublespend with zero confirmations yet very, very few people can pull it off with 1 confirmation. A transaction is not at all secure without at least a single confirmation.

nobody said it was. the implication was that zero conf transactions are insecure in bitcoin. so was accepting monacoin deposits---and allowing those depositors to immediately withdrawal---with only a few confirmations.

What they _could_ have done is had some sort of warning system to notify them that 5-6 blocks were created in 1 minute instead of the usual 1.5 minute block time, then either frozen withdrawals at that time or else upped the confirmations required for a deposit.

that's livecoin's job. they had no internal checks for network abnormalities. coin developers can address exploits after they are found, but they can't bail livecoin out before the fact.

It wasn't until a week later that the Monacoin developer came up with the suggestion of requiring 100 confirmations for a deposit. Both Livecoin and Bittrex had ceased deposits and withdrawals well before then.

what's your point?
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
What do you mean "did nothing"? They were the first to figure out what was going on and shut down deposits and withdrawals immediately thereafter. They immediately reached out to the Monacoin developers and told them about the issue.

you mean livecoin was the first to figure out they just got double spend attacked and lost funds? i imagine they were.

what would you expect the coin developers to do about it?

At the very least (in both instances) provide Livecoin with some kind of bug bounty reward.

Imagine if exchanges accepted zero-confirmation transactions in Bitcoin and then began blaming Core developers because customers managed to double spend attack them. This is the same thing.

This is a disingenuous comparison by the very nature of how cryptocurrency works. Its of course not nearly the same thing.

hmmm, could you explain how they are so different? these are both proof of work protocols. relying on insufficient proof of work = services could suffer double spends.

The difference between zero and 1 confirmations is almost infinite. Anybody can create a doublespend with zero confirmations yet very, very few people can pull it off with 1 confirmation. A transaction is not at all secure without at least a single confirmation.

isn't this why exchanges require a minimum number of confirmations? seems like livecoin didn't require enough confirmations and then allowed the attackers to withdraw before the deposits were double spent. right?

You should read about what actually happened:

https://www.reddit.com/r/monacoin/comments/8k7640/51_attack_on_monacoin/

What they _could_ have done is had some sort of warning system to notify them that 5-6 blocks were created in 1 minute instead of the usual 1.5 minute block time, then either frozen withdrawals at that time or else upped the confirmations required for a deposit. It wasn't until a week later that the Monacoin developer came up with the suggestion of requiring 100 confirmations for a deposit. Both Livecoin and Bittrex had ceased deposits and withdrawals well before then.

exchange dead, exit scam? why no announcement?

They announced on Twitter about 24 hours ago that they would go down for scheduled maintenance today. It's supposed to last for 4-5 hours. How long has it been down?

Its been back up for at least a couple of hours.

Stock exchange officer does not stop lying, please read my new response to his slander here and if you find that I am right, please support my flag it is very important!

Your flag has an overwhelming amount of support. You don't have to keep advertising it when everybody sees it at the top of every page in this thread. Even if they did unlock your account, you'd just go back to bitching at them about not being to withdraw your MONA.
legendary
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STOP SNITCHIN'
exchange dead, exit scam? why no announcement?

They announced on Twitter about 24 hours ago that they would go down for scheduled maintenance today. It's supposed to last for 4-5 hours. How long has it been down?
member
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exchange dead, exit scam? why no announcement?
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