Topic: Livecoin.net Scam - page 21. (Read 13670 times)

I think they have admitted to a sufficient number of facts for someone to conclude that they have effectively scammed the OP if you only believe LiveCoin and do not believe the OP.

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I would think this would be exactly why someone should get tagged— they are receiving money in order to effectively vouch for someone they know to be a scammer. They have been pointed out that they are advertising for a scammer and have not disagreed with the conclusion.

I fail to see how this is difficult from someone vouching for someone asking for a loan they know has no intention of repaying, in exchange for a percentage of the loan received.

It would be different if they were disputing that LiveCoin is scamming, but for the most part they are not.

Lol, Bones' post made me think of a Clash song, and Hh made me think of a Journey song.  I'm good with the Clash, but time out for you, Hhampuz, for shame. 



That ain't gonna happen.  I'm not tagging anyone other livecoin.  I get it, a lot of income is on the line for people who can't afford to lose it.  I empathize, and for that reason I won't be tagging anyone participating the sig campaign.  If anyone gets tagged or flagged for being on the sig campaign I'll oppose it.



Of that I have no doubt.  If anyone is up for the challenge, livecoin has the right guy in their corner.

Tag me, flag me, any way you want me .

I'll be working towards finding a solution and trying to mend LiveCoins reputation as that seems like more of a challenge than just pointing fingers and exercising a feeling of power. But that might just be me, as long as I'm on DT (I've messaged theymos about blacklisting me) I will counter any negative given to participants in the LiveCoin campaign.

I might share any updates in this thread, the campaign thread or somewhere else but as of right now it's back to work.

I'm going to cut the Livecoin participants some slack, for now. As I have testified before, the Livecoin signature was a hard one to drop. Part of me still even regrets my decision. While I was contemplating whether I should stay or leave the campaign, I must have come up with a thousand and one justifications to stay. However, in the end, it just didn't feel right for me.

Their terms of service also break the laws of common sense.


That's illegal in every country with a civilized legal code.



This (presumably) gives them the authority to close your account for any reason or no reason.  Maybe they don't like your username; account closed.  Maybe they think you have too much money in your account; account closed!  WTF, over?



No causing trouble, or... you guessed it; account closed!

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Another head-scratcher; It seems like livecoin has deleted any mention of MONA from their website, with the exception of their main exchange page.  A google search lists "news" results from livecoin.net, but when searching the linked page all mention of MONA is gone.  One page, which appears to have been the original press release at the time of the 51% attack has been completely deleted, and the link goes to a 404 error.  That link:


A post on github quotes the original message:


The search settings I used:

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The most troubling thing about this whole event is the number of reputed member who are still supporting this exchange.  A couple of spots opened up on their signature campaign, and several people applied.  This is really disappointing, especially from those whom I respect.  It's pretty obvious livecoin is a shady outfit, hiding in the shadows with a ToS agreement that holds them unaccountable.  

Sure, the evidence of the scam claims is largely circumstantial, but in this very thread they admitted they are treating the victim as he reported.  After several claims of folks being mistreated by livecoin, and their own terms of service full of illegal business practices, I'm baffled anyone can continue to stand behind them.

In my opinion, I don't see that as a act of ignoring accusations since they are going to provide us an update and we can only say they are ignoring accusations if they don't respond to the accuser complain.

BTC-E esque, god those were the days

No surprise to see that it's only Russians & Livescam sig wearers sticking up for these scammers - I think we can assume Livescam is run out of somewhere in Russia then. Time to start tagging these scam promoters a'la Yobit style soon I think - I didn't realize there were so many cheap skate legendary members on here.

In the meantime, Flag supported.

some other threads usefull on scam accusation against livecoin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/livecoin-90-5161686 (drama thread)
|---> https://forklog.com/kriptovalyutnaya-birzha-livecoin-priostanovila-vyvod-sredstv

|---> https://forklog.com/kriptobirzha-livecoin-poteryala-svyshe-1-8-mln-iz-za-uyazvimosti-v-kode-monero

|---> https://www.bestchange.ru/livecoin-exchanger.html

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/livecoinnet-wtpbtcpasbtctusdbtcsfxbtc-1023418 (last pages)


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i'm going to investigate more on livecoin and shitcoin security issue

thanks for the opinion

it seems that I used the wrong login when changing the trust, I'm sorry

you are delirious, for real and for 1500 euro
if you are idiot and stock your alt in exchange not my problem... now you lost money and now you raging

explane in my topic why the russian user accuse you (and tag you red) with blackmail accusation



if you convince me, I'll give my flag support and close the topic about you

I mean trust. And you cover livecoin when there is evidence of their cheating

you TAG ME red WITHOUT reference and write

without post in my thread


and now, if i'm kid like you, i tag you too red.... but i'm and adult

i NEVER cover a thief, see my history of scam hunter.. kid



WHERE??? WHERE IS THIS NEGATIVE REVIEW???

If they not a scam - where my money? You are one of those who unreasonably support livecoin, although you have concrete evidence of their deception, you write me negative reviews unreasonably, I am ashamed of you

i love math so much
because math can explane everything and raise logic

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monacoin/ monacoin value = 2 euro

750 x 2 = 1500 euro


and, my logic said... an exchange scam 1500 euro?

@izooomrud you think we are stupids? an exchage if want do a REAL scam, do exit scam or steal MORE than 1500 euro


we can use the logic
if i'm an exchange, i do'nt steal 1500 euros and risk a scam accusation
if i want to do a scam, i'm going to exit scam (like other exchange) or simulate a fake hacker steal

Their TOS also appears to break Belize law (where their company is supposedly registered)








Such terms also appear to violate law by implying that you cannot share any information with the authorities because livecoin.net will seize your account balances.

I don't understand why is livecoin making a big fuss. Unlock his account, Give his money back, problem solved and everybody is happy. What's so hard about it? Did he steal anything from the exchange? Is his money originating from hackers/terrorists? If that's a "no" then unlock his account.

Also you can't just silence people by weaponizing your ToS, that's not what ToS is for.

I get it, it is there to protect the exchange but what about the customer?

Livecoin.Net TOS have no reference to any company that owns or operates the website.

With the recent Bitsane disappearance it shows how risky it is having funds on an exchange that does not want to be found.

It appears to be registered in Belize under the name of:   RED VELVET INVESTMENTS LTD.





It appears that little information is known about Ivona Zlatova and there are suspicions that this person may not exist.

So they started hiring shills to defend themselves? Start posting from your real account. Nothing seems strange in his behavior. He's a naive victim of your full-fledged scam.

ICO's don't really outlaw the general terms and conditions of consumer protection. Did he sign any contracts with you? Nope. Give his money back. Not like your shitcoin had intentions of doing anything apart from the pump and dump schemes to deceive the community. We know how things work.

It seems better when you keep silent, I think it works better in your defense. Everything you stated is a lie and nonsense that has no real evidence! Do not be like those people who only curse and insult others to support their point of view! You continue misleading your users and denigrating me, a person whose money you stole.
All the charges against you are supported by the evidence. All the information posted in the main and subsequent posts.
This asset did not have any «statuses» when I bought it in the beginning of 2018. The statuses you are referring to were created much later. Why are you lying? You brought up an interesting topic, and I would like to thank you for that. You statement makes me wonder - how did the "junk asset" appear on your stock exchange? I understand it would have not been right if I bought a "junk asset" and lost a lot of money because of its fall, then began demanding a compensation from you. This was not the case, and again you are trying to twist my words to misrepresent reality and confuse everyone. I bought a "trash asset", then you lost it during the “attack 51%” and I cannot withdraw it up to this time! Don’t try to tell me where I should sell it, I will decide it without your advice!
I am not afraid of your threat that you will put my money into your pocket, and I am not afraid of your or someone else’s false accusations, because I know that I am right! Neither you nor those who lie with you do not provide ANY evidence, but endless bare accusations and humiliations.

So funny when a thief talks about local legislation  


This is something new, for God’s sake. You are trying to say, that when a user PURCHASED coins on your exchange and they were lost due to your fault, then you refused to compensate the losses and blocked user’s account, and when he turned to public and began to put pressure on you publicly by using evidence it’s called “scam”? Well, I see that your “logic” is just perfect. What kind of security you can even talk about, if you continue to lose your users' assets, and in case they are trying to make a claim you call it “SCAM”?
After my account was blocked “FOR THE PUBLIC JUDGMENT”, I did not receive a single warning nor receive any clear reasons explaining why it was blocked for 1.5 weeks. Please note that my account was blocked in 10 minutes after I published my opinion in this forum and on the bestchange. Although you keep stating to the public that you issue a warning before you block an account. My account was blocked on 07/18/2019 and I have not received any explanation from you regarding the reasons why blocking it for over a week!

I kept sending you my requests and demanded a resolution of this issue for 1.5 weeks! And that's what you answered to me the first time.

Why are you always trying to blame someone else? You lost the MONA coins but blame the developer, you blame the user who wrote a negative feedback and you blame the forum that allowed the publication of a negative feedback supported by facts! Taking into consideration all the evidence of your fraud towards me, your topic on the altcoinstalks.com forum has been cleared. Is this a coincidence, or there is someone to blame for this?
I hope all this information will reach your higher management and you will be punished for everything you did. I feel sorry for this exchange, because it’s good overall. My complaints are addressed solely to the administration and their inappropriate customer service. Guys, you are walking on a very thin ice when making statements about me that are not supported by facts. You are pushing yourself into a corner and I highly advise you to reconsider your attitude towards clients.
Now I am ready to continue responding to silly attacks from your trolls and receiving random insults and false accusations out of the blue. Do not expect to receive the same reaction in return, in return you will receive more facts!

Please support my flag it is very important!