Topic: Lives vs Economy -- sad truth (Read 1049 times)
Yes that is indeed a sad truth, but even so at least doctors and the government are doing what they should be doing well, because with the large number of patients affected by coronavirus this also makes the hospital full and at the same time the lack of nurses and doctors to handle cases or other diseases, because even at that time people or patients due to coronavirus infection were prioritized more than patients suffering from other diseases and sadly it happened to my own parents.
Yes that is indeed a sad truth, but even so at least doctors and the government are doing what they should be doing well, because with the large number of patients affected by coronavirus this also makes the hospital full and at the same time the lack of nurses and doctors to handle cases or other diseases, because even at that time people or patients due to coronavirus infection were prioritized more than patients suffering from other diseases and sadly it happened to my own parents.
Definitely, we can't either blame them if one of their patients die. The number of patients is terrible which makes them out of strength and focus, and neglected to know who needed the most. It finds excuses no one, we all have the possibility to get infected but it doesn't mean we all have to die because of the virus. We might die at this time not because of the virus but of other complication that is why that even young ages had also suffered death loss.
To survive from this disease is not actually a miracle but because we are healthy enough to fight the virus. May others don't have and that brought them into a sad loss.
We can not just rely upon the doctors to cure the virus but also needed our determination to win and follow healthy protocols.
There is no priority in saving an individual life -age,social status, background- give a proof if you have one that shows there is, health workers are under oath to save life's and every life matters, the world is concerned about the elderly ones at this pandemic time -although if do the basic things, get regular exercise, eat healthy there immune can be strong-. There are malls/stores in the US that have special shopping times for elderly citizens alone.
A vaccine might never come or might come late, what our defense would be is our immunity,- old or young-.
A vaccine might never come or might come late, what our defense would be is our immunity,- old or young-.
I agree. There is no such sense of being picky at times like this because every individual's life is important so no one must be left behind and all must be given a medical attention and care equally. Maybe the OP is just seeing the wrong side of the situation because health care workers are struggling on how to handle massive number of patients that is why not all are given medical attention that urgent but they are making their best to serve the people because once they have missed out one individual, the rest could also get infected and that would be another great problem to face.
Life and death is a normal scenario in a person but dealing on how to keep a person alive is a challenge that every medical practitioners do to save lives at the extent of what they can do. It is just that the ratio of the medical health care workers are not appropriate to be given medical attention that easily. Actually we must salute all of them for risking their lives just the sake of other people's life even the cost of it is their own lives. It is not about economical status or background, it is a fight that we are all facing right now and we must handle it all together not to think what status in life we have.
You just described not "an evil and terrible government that is only interested in money" but a classic natural cycle. That animals-the weakest in the herd can be left to die/kill that they would not interfere with the survival of the rest, and people-the weakest inhibit growth/development/reduce the chance of survival. There is nothing surprising in this
we are human and cannot be compared to animalism lol.Yeah there are some person that has animal attitude but this is a rare cases because people are concern with each other and this is proven how we fight about this Pandemic with helping hands.
We are not far from them actually. in a global sense, I mean .
Until now, we always sacrifice the weak for the welfare of others, and when we give up the mercy, we suffer from it ourselves. I think that you will understand the examples here.
The approach is different with each country, I consider preference of treatment to age disgusting and a lot medical practitioners had debunk the rumour that corvid doesn't kill young ones.
Yes, there are different reports coming from each countries, medical practitioners / frontliners
already probe that everyone is prone of dying
due to this pandemic virus.
We have seen cases of death of 4 year old but comorbidity is still a factor for anyone to struggle or die with the ailment.
No one is safe as the virus can really kill anyone once being infected.
A lot of old ones had survived the ailment but we still need to take caution with them cause no one know how strong their immunity maybe to the disease
Case to case basis, and yes, the old ones needs a lots of attentions as the chances
to die is very large from that particular sector.
The approach is different with each country, I consider preference of treatment to age disgusting and a lot medical practitioners had debunk the rumour that corvid doesn't kill young ones. We have seen cases of death of 4 year old but comorbidity is still a factor for anyone to struggle or die with the ailment. A lot of old ones had survived the ailment but we still need to take caution with them cause no one know how strong their immunity maybe to the disease
Although coronavirus epidemics have been tried in each country to save lives through various measures, over time various restrictions have been lifted as a result, people are being affected more and more. However, it is necessary to take some steps to revive the economic situation. Because the epidemic may not be controlled very soon and if economic activities are stopped for a long time, people will die of starvation and various adverse conditions. The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization estimates that the pandemic will starve a large number of people to death. So in the case of lives vs. economy, there is a lot of effort to save lives at the beginning of the epidemic, but gradually every country has started to look at the economy. But the government of every country must take care of the lives of the people, especially the elderly who are at high risk of dying from this epidemic. Therefore, in order to prevent the elderly from being infected, they need to be protected in a family, social, and state way and young and middle-aged people need to be aware.
I am not entirely sure if it makes sense to just save people that are younger if you can because they can go back to work force and pay taxes and so forth, but I would say that makes more sense because in the end if you are younger, there is a chance you can live longer after you are saved, if you are 90 years old, there is a high chance you will die anyway from something else in few years.
Mainly the point, if you are the one in the position, let's assume a nurse that will call next patient to be in the respirator, got and old and young man whom you be calling? Ok let's say that the essence is not economically, would you change your answer? No right? coz we all know what the greater good is in this particular situation, we ain't born yesterday, we know how the system works for us, we know how the system will work for them. This is how it really is, this is the sad truth that I'm talking about. .
So, when you have two patients and just one of them can get the care, that means you pick the 50 year old guy over 90 year old guy since the 50 year old guy may still live 40 more years to the same age.
This is not saving a person in the house under fire, it's not the first see first save principle. 
I am not entirely sure if it makes sense to just save people that are younger if you can because they can go back to work force and pay taxes and so forth, but I would say that makes more sense because in the end if you are younger, there is a chance you can live longer after you are saved, if you are 90 years old, there is a high chance you will die anyway from something else in few years.
So, when you have two patients and just one of them can get the care, that means you pick the 50 year old guy over 90 year old guy since the 50 year old guy may still live 40 more years to the same age. That is of course just what I think, that is not exactly what doctors are thinking or what governments might be thinking, I don't know what they are thinking and never asked them, but that would be my idea.
So, when you have two patients and just one of them can get the care, that means you pick the 50 year old guy over 90 year old guy since the 50 year old guy may still live 40 more years to the same age. That is of course just what I think, that is not exactly what doctors are thinking or what governments might be thinking, I don't know what they are thinking and never asked them, but that would be my idea.
by ignoring the health of parents (> 40 years) that means the government supports the existence of viruses because the purpose of the virus is to reduce the human population in this world. really ironic
I've read some issues about this in some countries where they prioritize COVID 19 patients based on age. I don't know whether it is true or not, however, this is an unavoidable truth if the government has to choose whom to prioritize whether if it is someone who can be more productive and help on economic growth or the elderly.
I think Japan has the same mentality during the Fukushima Nuclear Crisis where elder people volunteered to deal with nuclear wastes to save younger workers dealing with it.
In my own opinion, this is also happens in the movies and in our history that they always prioritized the young ones, instead of the elder ones because they have more time to live to make a better change to their life, that is why elder people always do the sacrifices just to save the new generations. I think Japan has the same mentality during the Fukushima Nuclear Crisis where elder people volunteered to deal with nuclear wastes to save younger workers dealing with it.
You just described not "an evil and terrible government that is only interested in money" but a classic natural cycle. That animals-the weakest in the herd can be left to die/kill that they would not interfere with the survival of the rest, and people-the weakest inhibit growth/development/reduce the chance of survival. There is nothing surprising in this
we are human and cannot be compared to animalism lol.Yeah there are some person that has animal attitude but this is a rare cases because people are concern with each other and this is proven how we fight about this Pandemic with helping hands.
Live as if you were going to die tomorrow..
You just described not "an evil and terrible government that is only interested in money" but a classic natural cycle. That animals-the weakest in the herd can be left to die/kill that they would not interfere with the survival of the rest, and people-the weakest inhibit growth/development/reduce the chance of survival. There is nothing surprising in this
I've read some issues about this in some countries where they prioritize COVID 19 patients based on age. I don't know whether it is true or not, however, this is an unavoidable truth if the government has to choose whom to prioritize whether if it is someone who can be more productive and help on economic growth or the elderly.
I think Japan has the same mentality during the Fukushima Nuclear Crisis where elder people volunteered to deal with nuclear wastes to save younger workers dealing with it.
I think Japan has the same mentality during the Fukushima Nuclear Crisis where elder people volunteered to deal with nuclear wastes to save younger workers dealing with it.
Almost 6 months proven that our world has covered by darkness due to pandemic reaction, and the other side, have unity with good dealings. So our view in life begins with a shadow fighting for corona to conquer or recover to push, even an incomplete barrier I believe that we are all can afford to drive the economy to win.
That's already long, but it seems we are already slowly adopting with the new normal, the economy struggle but it's just normal due to the situation we are at now, what I'm happy to see is that we are surviving, this is the world fighting together the covid-19 which until now no vaccine was found yet.
But then, it should not stop us from longing as eventually that vaccine will be discovered and release.
We really have to deal with deaths, it is part of living 
What else should we do? If we all decide to stay indoors, for how long are we going to do that? People will eventually catch hunger and die. It’s still best that we all go back to our business and practice social distance and other maintain other rules that will help to keep us safe from the virus, like wearing our face mask and using running water to wash regularly and also avoid touching our eyes and nose , and face completely. It is not easy to stay indoors, and do you know what’s really bad about this? Even when we are staying indoors the numbers of those with the virus is not decreasing.Unity is the only solution to survive lives and also our economy.
Yes, this is time to show our strength by breaking the spreading chain of covid19 virus. If we unite not to go out for unnecessary reasons then the chances for not getting infected will be high which will help the countries to recover from pandemic chaos as quicker as possible like how New Zealand has done and they are must be working on other things whereas most other countries are still dealing with pandemic things 
. The country's economy is being hampered by the epidemic so the government will have to allocate more to the country's economy as well as the healthcare sector It is really very sad that age difference is treated in our country. As a result, people are getting sicker and productivity is declining which is having an impact on the country's economy That is why we have to think about our own health in order to survive It will reduce the number of infections and maintain a lot of protection in the country's health sector.
The government is also a factor but people are now usually rely too much in the government. They keep blaming why they do not achieve financial freedom and time freedom, we should remember that we should take ownership of success. Even though there is still pandemic, there are a lot of opportunities that we can do in order to make profit. The economy is starting to recover and the people who lost their job are noe starting to work again because of the reopening of the major businesses.
The country's economy is being hampered by the epidemic so the government will have to allocate more to the country's economy as well as the healthcare sector It is really very sad that age difference is treated in our country. As a result, people are getting sicker and productivity is declining which is having an impact on the country's economy That is why we have to think about our own health in order to survive It will reduce the number of infections and maintain a lot of protection in the country's health sector.
I strongly disagree that health care is linked to the economy
To provide a better health for you, hospital needs money to buy equipment. That is the simplest reason on why it is linked. A country needs to spend alot to provide better healthcare system for their people but to do that, they need to restart their economy. Therefore there will always be one thing that needs to be sacrificed
A country cant really provide better healthcare system and at the same time safe their economy. Well perhaps few country could but the majority cant and also to get their economy back to where it was , will require people to work and spend
That increases the chance of getting infected and if someone is infected, they are actually putting burden to the limited resources of the healthcare system. Do you See the correlation in there? What a country could do is to put some limit onto the social activity and try to get their economy back in shape because a country cant really choose not to sacrifice both
I strongly disagree that health care is linked to the economy, because it puts younger people first to be saved. With a more productive
reason for economic progress, it must be changed. Because hospitals cannot differentiate based on age for handling health priorities.
Fortunately in my country there are no such rules.
reason for economic progress, it must be changed. Because hospitals cannot differentiate based on age for handling health priorities.
Fortunately in my country there are no such rules.
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