Long Term BTC Investment Is No More - page 2.

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Quote from: trand on October 24, 2017, 02:44:17 PM

Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

The main reason why altcoins can not increase its price is that people are only focusing their mind and efforts in bitcoin and its fork. I have a strong feeling that in their heart, they still want to buy altcoin but unfortunately, they want to receive free bitcoin gold for free money. Well, we can not stop them from doing that. there are many altcoins which have the potential in the future. Keep believe in cryptocurrencies and everything will be fine

Focus and interest of people would really be bigger on bitcoin itself compared on altcoin.This is why we do really always see the supremacy of bitcoin among alts which we would normally see. Long term investment on bitcoin is somehow senseless already because we cant already expect for x2 x3 x4 easily considering on its price is already high and reaching even on x2 would really be hard as of now thats why people do really tend to go on alts.

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Selling bitcoin fast is risky, only for long term investment for me. Altcoin can be sell fast but i think it is very possible to earn money with holding altcoins few months or longer

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Well if you look on the bright side, the volatility of the market actually pushes people to start using their bitcoins not just as a trading tool. This will help out the price of bitcoin in the long run because if fewer people are holding bitcoins and a majority of them want it, it will drive the price up for sure. Lucky will be the ones who managed to be patient and hodl on to their coins.

In the case of alt coins, it depends on if you are looking at it on a BTC stand point or on a FIAT stance. If on BTC, you will see a lot of alts die off since they would be worth dust if BTC keeps on rising. If on a FIAT perspective, some major ones like ETH, LTC and XMR will still be there as they have stabilized the value on their own.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

The main reason why altcoins can not increase its price is that people are only focusing their mind and efforts in bitcoin and its fork. I have a strong feeling that in their heart, they still want to buy altcoin but unfortunately, they want to receive free bitcoin gold for free money. Well, we can not stop them from doing that. there are many altcoins which have the potential in the future. Keep believe in cryptocurrencies and everything will be fine

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

I wouldn't say that with the bitcoin price raising, altcoins drops. You need to differentiate the reasons why bitcoin price raise. Is it natural growth in demand, any particularly good news or is it like for example right now, a cheap way to multiply your money. People are now selling all their altcoins to have money to buy bitcoins, because they will get free forked coins. That's why the altcoins are now low, and bitcoin high. After the forks are done bitcoin price will maybe drop a bit, while altcoins will raise. From that point, if there is any other big news, the bitcoin and altcoins can raise in value together for some time.

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Quote from: iram3130 on October 22, 2017, 07:05:46 AM

If you cant invest big and want 100 or 200x then it's better to invest in altcoins or ICO's. You can't make a huge profit with Bitcoin now. So it's better to keep some and invest more on altcoins.

Sure, ICOs have the possibilities of having a huge increase as time goes on but that does not mean a lot of profit cannot still be made with bitcoin based on what one can afford.

We all don't know what the peak value or ATH of bitcoin will stop at, so if it is possible to have some of it, diversify the portfolio just a bit, then i see no reason why. However, investing in ICOs should be something one should be careful of as most of them can still end up failing, so it is a higher risk.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

I think the majority of people trade alt coins only to increase their bitcoin; I personally think that holding an alt coin for more that 15 days is a bad idea because a lot can happen to the btc price in that time. and it seems like the majority of people think this way, when btc is on the rise everyone is quick to jump the bitcoin wagon and sacrifice the alts they have that's why in a lot of times when btc is rallying alts drop. alts have no future, not all of them at least

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Quote from: germa66 on October 21, 2017, 07:50:05 AM

I agree if you say to do hold, because if I have to be honest myself feel quite confused to trade in this situation. the more coming is just the fear and panic.

No it isn’t. You don’t have to be panic and you don’t have to think that bitcoin will make your fearful. Be brave and face this dip. Bitcoin have been developing since 2009 and till now it has faced so many hard forks and dips.

But nothing have made it down to zero. It always rehabilitate and come out with more profits. So don’t fear and hold, it will surely shoot up and make you rich.

Eth has always tried to chase bitcoin and is fond of standing next to it. After bitcoin, eth is the most suitable coin for investing your money and even better than eth is waves. Eth is not better than waves in any regard. Bitcoin is the only coin which is biggest market holding coin. Bitcoin should be your choice for making bug money in the crypto market. Let us all stop wasting money on other coins.

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Quote from: amaral1977 on October 23, 2017, 08:21:39 AM

Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

I really think there are two diferente angles to look at this. One is pure profit in FIAT. I think the market is hard to beat and it will not be easy to gain more with alts speculation than you do in BTC. Another angle is the technology and market of alt coins and tokens projects. We don´t know wich ones or even if there is any already born but some blockchain projects will be huge. So diversifying and holding participations in such projects will be very good in the future.

But we are all in for the money isn't it? Admit it or not. That's why its really really hard to hold on your coins specially at the price today. $5500, $6000, $6500 are all mental barriers now. I still try to hold as I can, however, it the opportunity has presented to me to get and cash out huge profit, I might take it and will try to just re-buy when bitcoin price is at low point and discounted price. I think this is the sentiments of most traders now, can't resist to cash out bitcoin with this ATH prices today.

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Quote from: amaral1977 on October 23, 2017, 08:21:39 AM

Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

I really think there are two diferente angles to look at this. One is pure profit in FIAT. I think the market is hard to beat and it will not be easy to gain more with alts speculation than you do in BTC. Another angle is the technology and market of alt coins and tokens projects. We don´t know wich ones or even if there is any already born but some blockchain projects will be huge. So diversifying and holding participations in such projects will be very good in the future.

I don’t really think so that long term investment and that too in case of bitcoin is no more. In fact, bitcoin is very much popular just because it is very suitable option for holding and long term investment. These are all the misconceptions which are just confusing us. The way bitcoin market’s price is increasing with each passing day, I think that it is the best option to do long term investment.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

I really think there are two diferente angles to look at this. One is pure profit in FIAT. I think the market is hard to beat and it will not be easy to gain more with alts speculation than you do in BTC. Another angle is the technology and market of alt coins and tokens projects. We don´t know wich ones or even if there is any already born but some blockchain projects will be huge. So diversifying and holding participations in such projects will be very good in the future.

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Quote from: ongels on October 22, 2017, 07:17:55 PM

There are types of alt coins that performs very well in the market, Be selective in choosing alt coins, There so many types of alts that are no longer active in the market. and if you are smart enough to choose alt coin based on their chart performance then precisely you will also yield a good profit. Bitcoin in any field like long term and short term investment are still consistently effective, As we've witness in its historical performance its constantly good performer, No doubt bitcoin is a good investment in any field.

Selection is very important. There are some altcoins that are just good for pump and dumps and there are some groups where someone calls the shot and you just see a huge spike within a short split of second for the coin. These are shit coins and should not even be dabbled into. It is best to find coins with a good project, coins with good dev, coin with huge support and coin with future to trade with. This is a good way to invest and diversify one's portfolio for those who feel bitcoin is too high to get into which I don't see as such.

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Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

Some of them are receiving their death sentence pretty soon, no doubt about that, while only few of the strong ones will last eventually. It is long overdue for some of the alts to get out of the market anyway. However, like I said, all alts cannot die and some of them will still thrive.

It is understandable that as the value keeps rising, most of them still keep suffering and it is just best to hold what you have now in BTC so you don't keep losing on the alts pending when everything will get stabilized.
However, long term BTC investment still remains and you can buy no matter how little cause the little you buy today will amount to something big tomorrow. No doubt!

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Alts are definitely offering a better alternative to BTC if you're new in the crypto space and have virtually no BTC. At the moment with some research, you might land on a real diamond project and get a 1-3k return on your initial investment, which in the short term, is almost impossible for BTC to happen. Alt's are just offering a different ecosystem and I don't think this is a bad thing, many are saying that anything beyond bitcoin is worthless, but there are so many projects out there that offer so many solutions to today's problems, that some of them are meant to survive. The tricky part is finding which one's will, but if your analysis is correct and that project really becomes what it's meant to be, it will very likely make you rich, or at least offer you an income that was beyong any other expectation you would have in the traditional investment securities. Keep BTC as a hedge and buy into altcoins to increase your potential return, my suggestion is.

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BTC is the king,
if BTC falls then altcoins is falling.

It is likely that crypto land is tied to BTC.
BTC is still a good long term investment

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Bitcoin investment would still grow
Bitcoin would be still the king of crypto land within next year,
I dont know in detail

It is grow by trading volume and market cap, Bitcoin ll be still an investment

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There are types of alt coins that performs very well in the market, Be selective in choosing alt coins, There so many types of alts that are no longer active in the market. and if you are smart enough to choose alt coin based on their chart performance then precisely you will also yield a good profit. Bitcoin in any field like long term and short term investment are still consistently effective, As we've witness in its historical performance its constantly good performer, No doubt bitcoin is a good investment in any field.

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Investing in altcoins is not good at the moment. If you are expecting a huge market growth of 2x to 10x in just few months like those in March 2017, then this is not the right time. Bitcoin is running so fast now and altcoins cant hold anymore. Thats why fast pumps and dumps in Bitcoin in BTC will make the alts fall from its position. Better stick with BTC for now.

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Quote from: mobilestrike on October 22, 2017, 05:26:43 PM

Quote from: Saoha on October 22, 2017, 11:06:57 AM

Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

Right. As Bitcoin is constantly increasing, altcoin can not keep up. Altcoins are constantly falling down but looking at Alts / Usd does not change much.
At the moment I'm going to buy altcoin with Bitcoin. And wait Bitcoin down. Then Alts / Btc will increase. I need to increase the amount of Bitcoin.

At the top of the list, there will always remain one coin and that is bitcoin. Bitcoin is and will remain the best coin for long term investment especially. The way bitcoin is making such a good reputation, things are going to be in very much favor of bitcoin in the coming days. There is no doubt in this thing that holding of bitcoin is the most profitable thing to do right now. You need to believe in bitcoin.

I definitely agree with you, Bitcoin will always be and will stay on top despite of its challenges. I believe in Bitcoin and I will be holding it for more years to come as well. It did prove us wrong when China decided to ban ICO's and exchanges but it did prove that Bitcoin is better and still keeps on increasing its value.

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Quote from: mobilestrike on October 22, 2017, 05:26:43 PM

Quote from: Saoha on October 22, 2017, 11:06:57 AM

Quote from: shamzblueworld on October 20, 2017, 02:57:24 AM

With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

Right. As Bitcoin is constantly increasing, altcoin can not keep up. Altcoins are constantly falling down but looking at Alts / Usd does not change much.
At the moment I'm going to buy altcoin with Bitcoin. And wait Bitcoin down. Then Alts / Btc will increase. I need to increase the amount of Bitcoin.

At the top of the list, there will always remain one coin and that is bitcoin. Bitcoin is and will remain the best coin for long term investment especially. The way bitcoin is making such a good reputation, things are going to be in very much favor of bitcoin in the coming days. There is no doubt in this thing that holding of bitcoin is the most profitable thing to do right now. You need to believe in bitcoin.

In fact it is always worth to invest in bitcoin for long term, I think long term investment is the best option for bitcoin. In long term invest I think the chances of losing money is very rare and there are always good opportunities to make good amount of money. Long term investment is even better for such people who do not have any experience in short term investment, because in long term investment you do not need to remain as active and study the market on regular bases.

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