Topic: Looking for system integrators for new asic - page 2. (Read 21960 times)

**This is a speculation post, NOT a scam accusation post. Shit, even the word scam is way overused and misused in this forum.**

I can also write a very professional post like that. The question is:
Did anyone contact him representing potential system integrators? No one has said anything one way or the other. So either no one has or there is some kind of NDA on even mentioning you talked to him? What's really going on here?

Posting on the Bitcoin forum is odd for a company looking for systems integrators for their chips. But not entirely unlikely. I see 3 possibilities:

1. Everything is as helveticoin says. This would be very interesting and certainly change things regarding miners who have pre-purchased ASICs from other companies. Even with them onboard, I expect to be able to make 0.1BTC/day with a 60GH/s unit by the end of the year. They claim a lot of PH/s but I can't see there being enough orders for them in the volume they can produce right off the bat. I do expect them to start a slow network increase past the initial spike. But they seem to be hoping to get the chips off their hands quickly so... (speculation time)
What I get from the first post is that this is a group of people who abused their control over the 28nm wafers from GF while working at ST Microelectronics to design and produce bitcoin ASICs. They have now left the company and brought the "stolen" chips with them. They are now forming a new one: A company who wants to sell the chips they got while working there to people who will do the systems integration and resale. In other words, they want to get rid of the chips relatively quickly and make money on it. I think they will try to get rid of their stock and produce nothing past that.

2. Someone was bored and can actually speak English properly and be professional.

3. This is a well thought out and long term scam that will start with initial rumours mainly brought on by this thread, further developments and lead to multiple fully-believable companies selling fake ASICs by June. I guess it is a good idea because they can claim they don't need pre-orders here but when it comes down to it, they can have the other fake reseller companies be the ones to ask for preorders.

Questions:

MLM is advertised as a cost-saving measure so why is helveticoin claiming this will increase their costs?
MLM saves mask costs ("mask" is done already) but increases chip costs.

Why did they come to bitcointalk?

Has anyone actually discussed being a systems integrator with them from this forum?

Has anyone sent any "serious inquiries" by email as helveticoin asked and received a response?



So now we wait until May.

OP seems legit-.

Any info yet as to the "official" announcements?

They've asked nobody for money as far as I can tell.  I think your trigger finger is a little itchy there fella.

How many gates did you used to create each double sha core?
Thanks

After seeing both Avalon and BFL's power consumption, I strongly doubt the claim of 60GH/15W for 28nm process, seems even 30W is a best case scenario

Will be watching this career with great interest!

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Great news. Plz keep this thread up to date. I would like to get one when its ready. The tinier the better!

When you say it does a 'double hash'
1. Does it do a double hash and compare, or just a double hash....
2. Are the I/O pins parallel or Serial.

They're wholesaling chips.  How on earth can they control how much hashing power an end user acquires?  Even if individual vendors limit the amount of hashing power they'll sell to a customer, people can order from multiple vendors and they can acquire additional units on the secondary market. 

Just a question to OP: Do you follow the general consensus of bitcoin community that do not let any single entity acquire more than 10% of the total hash power of the network?

What the hack, I'll just have to wait for an open source diagram and for chips to show up in catalog. Same as it went with the fpga systems.

BTW, I have contacted them, no answer, same as with primeasic.

The reason I ask every time for a diagram is simple, diagram without chips is useless yet it is proof that the company is serious. Until someone provides an independent confirmation of a working device or a diagram scheme, that company should be treated as irrelevant to the market.

You should probably read the thread.

I read it, I can't start manufacturing process of pc boards using their new chips without a diagram.

You should probably read the thread instead of skimming it looking for PCB pics.

Where's the pc board diagram scheme?

+1

IOW it'd be nice if we could bring a bit of professionalism into the market.

It would also be a shame if the emergence of a new player in the ASIC market doesn't lead to more competition and more vendors to choose from.  This is a golden opportunity for vendors to emerge who have short order to delivery times and for the now ridiculous never-ending pre-order saga to die a far overdue death.  It would be a shame if it's squandered on merely reinforcing the status quo.

I would encourage You to consider talking to BFL also (in addition to Avalon). It is not in my interest but the BTC community invested in the BFL project millions of USD. It would be a shame if this goes up in smoke as bASIC did.