Loozik is a scammer refusing to pay on a contract - page 7.

Viceroy

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Quote from: Loozik on June 23, 2013, 04:30:17 PM

Wouldn't you want to prove it to me? Then you'll get BTC 100 very fast.

That was not a requirement of your contract. The contract you made required me to demonstrate my citizenship; I have done that.

It is common knowledge the so called god exists.

That is the stupidest thing you've written yet. There is no common knowledge acceptance of any higher being. Now pay up and stop trying to act like you are right. You are obviously just trying to get out of a contract you made. You are a scammer aren't you?

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:22:18 PM

What I did prove:

I demonstrated to JohnK that I am a citizen.

Wouldn't you want to prove it to me? Then you'll get BTC 100 very fast.

Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:22:18 PM

I also proved, by common knowledege, that states exist.

It is common knowledge the so called god exists. If you can also prove the so called god exists, you'll get another BTC 100.

Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:22:18 PM

They have boundaries and can be represented by using a map.

If - as you claim - they have boundries, they have dimensions (are finite) - we are getting somewhere. Can you post an unedited photograph of a state?

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:22:18 PM

[...]I also proved, by common knowledege, that states exist. They have boundaries and can be represented by using a map.

Accused needs to pay up.

OP:
I never met you in person.
I never met JohnK in person.
I never held your passport in my hands.
I'm handy with Adobe products -- i'm sure so are you.
'Till the three of us meet in meat space & you hand over a passport, you're no more than what i think i see on my monitors.

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:22:18 PM

What I need to prove:

[...]

Accused needs to pay up.

You did not. Unless you physically showed up before JohnK and showed him your passport.
So let me ask again, was it (A) or was it (B) ?

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What I need to prove:

"You will get BTC 100 from me if you prove (i) you are a ''citizen'' and (ii) there exists a ''state''."

What I did prove:

I demonstrated to JohnK that I am a citizen. If you can produce a person in Colorado within an hour drive of me I'll show them my passport. I can show you my birth certificate. But I already demonstrated that I am a citizen to JohnK.

I also proved, by common knowledege, that states exist. They have boundaries and can be represented by using a map.

Accused needs to pay up.

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Quote from: augustocroppo on June 23, 2013, 04:18:27 PM

Quote from: Loozik on June 23, 2013, 04:00:15 PM

Never seen one. Be a darling and show a picture of a state / any state.

Invalid argument.

Fallacy "appeal to ignorance".

Next!

It was not an argument. I kindly asked the pussy to show a photo of a state, because I never seen one. If he claimed unicorns existed, I would also want him to post a picture of a unicorn.

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Anyone want to give me some BTC for my drawing Cry

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:15:02 PM

I don't need to use words like pussy to prove I am right.

Come on, it's the 4th page of this thread and no evidence presented, only opinions. I consider you a pussy.

My bitcoin-qt is running and waiting for you to present the evidence and I'll just send the money.

Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:15:02 PM

I have proven that states exist and citizens exist.

When and where did you prove it? What evidence did you present. So far I only have your subjective by nature opinions. Nothing to falsify.

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:17:10 PM

Quote from: davout on June 23, 2013, 04:14:49 PM

Dear OP, two choices here :

(A) - Have you physically met JohnK ?
(B) - Or did you send him a picture of a passport that you claim is yours ? (with possibly someone on the picture that you claim is you)

Is it (A), or is it (B) ?

Dear doubter... go ask him. I don't need to defend my self to you. I demonstrated that I am a citizen of the great United States of America using proof of citizenship that is acceptable to the US government. You need to ask him to either claim I am or am not an American citizen by whatever method he and I chose to use to verify that FACT.

This whole thread is about defending your point. So is it (A) or (B). If you answer (A) I will go verify, if the answer is (B) you have just been logically cornered, can drop this whole thing, and move on with something more productive to do with your life.

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Quote from: Loozik on June 23, 2013, 04:00:15 PM

Never seen one. Be a darling and show a picture of a state / any state.

Invalid argument.

Fallacy "appeal to ignorance".

Next!

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Quote from: davout on June 23, 2013, 04:14:49 PM

Dear OP, two choices here :

(A) - Have you physically met JohnK ?
(B) - Or did you send him a picture of a passport that you claim is yours ? (with possibly someone on the picture that you claim is you)

Is it (A), or is it (B) ?

Dear doubter... go ask him. I don't need to defend myself to you. I demonstrated that I am a citizen of the great United States of America using proof of citizenship that is acceptable to the US government. You need to ask him to either claim I am or am not an American citizen by whatever method he and I chose to use to verify that FACT.

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I'll quote myself since OP seems to have missed the precise question here

Quote from: davout on June 23, 2013, 04:14:49 PM

Dear OP, two choices here :

(A) - Have you physically met JohnK ?
(B) - Or did you send him a picture of a passport that you claim is yours ? (with possibly someone on the picture that you claim is you)

Is it (A), or is it (B) ?

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I don't need to use words like pussy to prove I am right. As I said, it's all common knowledge. You can look up that term in just about any encyclopedia. I have proven that states exist and citizens exist. JohnK can verify I am an American citizen. So pay up.

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:11:41 PM

I demonstrated that to JohnK. Ask him for the proof, I cannot force him to come here and post.

Dear OP, two choices here :

(A) - Have you physically met JohnK ?
(B) - Or did you send him a picture of a passport that you claim is yours ? (with possibly someone on the picture that you claim is you)

Is it (A), or is it (B) ?

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:03:42 PM

Perhaps you should start your own thread on the subject rather than troll this one? Just a thought Roll Eyes

Not really necessary since I am not really up to "troll" anyone.

I am more serious than you could assume.

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No, that is evidence of topography. Its a graphical representation of the lay of the land. Nothing more.

You are speaking of one type of map, a topographical map. There are also maps which lay out political boundaries (aka states). There are also parcel maps that show individual parcels of land in a city or county which are part of a bigger state. So you can't really say a state doesn't exist. It has physical boundaries.

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:06:19 PM

Yes I can show you a map.

Fantastic.

Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:06:19 PM

That is evidence of the existence of states.

You are very close to earning BTC 100. BTW I can also show you a map Grin

Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:06:19 PM

I can show you documents or passports which demonstrate the existance of the united states of america and that it has citizens.

I want evidence (by its nature objective, provable). If whatever you think you can show here is the evidence that supports your claim, then don't be a pussy and show it

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Quote from: davout on June 23, 2013, 04:10:26 PM

Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:08:52 PM

Which point have I failed to make that there are states or that there are citizens?

The promise requires you to prove that you are a citizen, not that a citizen exists.

I demonstrated that to JohnK. Ask him for the proof, I cannot force him to come here and post.

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Quote from: augustocroppo on June 23, 2013, 04:09:56 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Actually a passport does not prove citizenship. It's simple a document that shows the residency of a person in a particular country.

One could be a citizen of a country, but a resident in another.
I can have either a Manx passport (British Islands) as a Manx citizen (by birth) or a British Isles passport (by residence).

Passports are specially made to prove the nationality of a person which is going to visit a foreign nation, which implies proof of citizenship.

If I did not have my Italian passport I could never reside legally in UK since I would not able to PROVE to the Home Office and the Border Agency that I am an Italian citizen.

Citizenship has nothing to do with where someone could reside, but all to do the person's background and right to be part of a nation.

Another smart person who recognizes that passports demonstrate citizenship.

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Quote from: Viceroy on June 23, 2013, 04:08:52 PM

Which point have I failed to make that there are states or that there are citizens?

The promise requires you to prove that you are a citizen, not that a citizen exists.

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