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Topic: Lose all your capital fast, with MatTheCat and his TA 101A! - page 61. (Read 85774 times)

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Hahah, matthestatist shill comes out in full glory.

Yea, no kidding.  I'm not under the delusion that anarchy actually works, because anarchy is a power vacuum that will always be filled by a "strongman", and then you no longer have anarchy.  But PoW is an actual war game exercise that manifests in the real world, not just virtual, that fills the gap of this strongman.

Mat's idea of a bright future was the fractional reserve, debt as money systems collapsing, and then him lining up at the table for a second helping of the exact same scam when they clear the board to start anew to steal his money again.  Most people who can understand these issues would likely call him a very dumb person, but he seems to think it's just being practical.  It's only being practical if there are no alternatives.  You are literally choosing to be scammed on purpose when you don't have to be.  Pretty much any option is better than signing up to be Ben Shalom Bernanke's slave on purpose.

When I say that money requires authority behind it, I am not saying that this is how I want the world to be, but how the world is.

Bitcoin has value, cos it can be changed into USD, which is money cos it is the IOU of the USA, by far the most powerful country on the face of the planet.

Best of luck trying to convince the marketplace to part with goods or services in exchange for some digital token, that isn't backed by a powerful authority, or can't be easily exchanged for a token that is backed by a powerful.

When empires have broken down throughout the ages, their monetary systems went, but the gold and silver coins, always remained valuable, because they are valuable and desirable of themselves. If the USD were to go down the pan, you really think anyone is going to give a fuck about Bitcoins on a USB stick? I have about 30K Quarks. How much of a shit do you think I could give about them?
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Hahah, matthestatist shill comes out in full glory.

Yea, no kidding.  I'm not under the delusion that anarchy actually works, because anarchy is a power vacuum that will always be filled by a "strongman", and then you no longer have anarchy.  But PoW is an actual war game exercise that manifests in the real world, not just virtual, that fills the gap of this strongman.

Mat's idea of a bright future was the fractional reserve, debt as money systems collapsing, and then him lining up at the table for a second helping of the exact same scam when they clear the board to start anew to steal his money again.  Most people who can understand these issues would likely call him a very dumb person, but he seems to think it's just being practical.  It's only being practical if there are no alternatives.  You are literally choosing to be scammed on purpose when you don't have to be.  Pretty much any option is better than signing up to be Ben Shalom Bernanke's slave on purpose.
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Meh...just a wait a few days to a week or so...u couple of tossers will be crapping ur pants as 'they' once again, start dumping Bitcoin and margin calling a whole bunch of leverged traders.

Margin longs are up near ATHs, Margin shorts are getting pretty low. That means if 'they' are gonna extract wealth from the market, then 'they' will do so by driving it back down from where it came.

Where there are many margin longs, there are many potential panic sellers, and there are many many margin longs.

But I can see this stabbing increasingly higher in ever so slight increments yet... edging it's way up to the $475 high, and probs a few bucks beyond it, just to get the noobiest of the noobs all excited.....then....KABOOM (and not the kind of KABOOM y'all want to see, but the kind KABOOM that I want to see, right back down to my buy-in zone).

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Eadem mutata resurgo
Hahah, matthestatist shill comes out in full glory.

he's trying to play like a dumb-ass trader permashort who got run over to make us feel pity and then spread his statist lies ... in triplicate technicolour govvy-loving word vomit all over the pages.
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You think this because you don't understand what the words Nash equilbrium means and how it applies to currency, international trade, and governments.  If a country like China and the US trade and both have their own currency, they both constantly do currency wars, devaluing to export, etc.  The person on the losing side of the trades would eventually demand the Nash equilibrium option and force the other into it if such an option existed.  The only way such a Nash equilibrium can be formed is if no single nation has a monopoly on the currency and it's accessible to all.  The only options for this on the planet are Bitcoin and gold (not closed entropy proof of stake systems).

The fact that I don't have to send a barge of gold to China over a time span of weeks to do a payment to utilize such a Nash equilibrium means it is fundamentally an extremely valuable system when the market cap of gold is trillions and less efficient in most ways.  You do not have the computer science background to do fundamental and cost benefit analysis of these systems.

I may not understand what Nash equilibrium means, but you perhaps don't understand what money is.

It is not hard to see why little bits of shiny attractive, and rare metals might have become used as 'money', because little pieces of these metal were desirable to own, just for the sake of having them. Even in the modern era of more sophisticated forms of entertainment, I myself still enjoy owning the little bits of gold and silver that I have in my possession, and it will be kind of sad when the day comes to cash them in. But even gold and silver don't really become money, until some authority states that little metal pieces with a kings head stamped upon them, are indeed money, and that the populace better start offering up goods and services in exchange for these little pieces of metal, because the king expects taxes to be paid by every subject, using these very same coins, which his treasury has minted, and will exchange for goods and services.

Money has always required some kind of authority behind it. If that 'authority' is some Indian chief with a penchant for giant rare kinds of feathers to put in his headdress, then large fine eagle feathers are money. If some Pharoah has a hard-on for gold and silver, with which he can adourn his palace, then gold and silver is money. Money is whatever unit of exchange, a ruling authority will accept as tribute from it's subjects. In the modern day, that ultimate unit of exchange is the US Dollar. Bitcoins value, is entirely derived from it's rate of convertibility into either the USD, or any number of other fiat currencies which are ultimately backed by the US dollar. If the USD value of BTC is going up, everyone wants to be holding BTC, if it is going down, nobody wants to be holding BTC. I understand that there is value in Bitcoin in terms of the potential ease with which value (in USD) can be transferred around the world, without the need for any of the conventional banking system, and/or clearing houses, but without that convertibility into USD, Bitcoin is worthless.

Arguably, if Bitcoin grows and becomes stable enough in value, it may be passed around as a substitute for USD, and business may gladly hold any BTC they may receive (as opposed to converting it immediately to USD b4 they even recognise payment). But consider the 'Money as Debt' allegory of the goldsmith who issued claim cheques on gold stored in his vaults, only to find the towns people were making payments to each other with the claim cheques as though they were the gold itself. Under those circumstances, the goldsmith's claim cheques, were as good as gold. They were money. However, should it become known that the goldsmith's vaults are empty cos he handed it all to a foreign trader in exchange for luxurious goods, then these claim cheques become worthless. In Bitcoin's case, it won't be a lack of gold in the goldsmiths cellar, but a loss of confidence in the USD which gives Bitcoin it's value to begin with. As sick as it may sound, collapsing (non USD) currencies will prove fucking great for Bitcoin, but only so long as the USD stands. Should the USD go down (and I am not that sure that it will anytime soon, but who knows), then the goldsmith's vault is truly empty, and the good townsfolk are going to have to ask themselves the question, "what really is wealth?" Could anyone expect the poultry farmer to exchange his eggs in return for some claim cheques on wealth that is no longer in the vault? Under a USD collapse scenario, is some large oil company going to deliver oil to a customer in exchange for a number of digital tokens with no tangible value, and with no powerful entity enforcing their use? No fucking way! Only chance Bitcoin has of becoming 'money' is if turns out some entity who control a sufficient volume of raw materials, production capacity, and military might, turn around and say, "ok, don't panic! We have the bread, we have the fuel, and we have the guns, and we will see you all alright, providing you pay us with these digital tokens, which we also own 90% off, and can set the value off, and decide how many Satoshi's to give your sorry arse for your hours of daily toil".....

But whilst it is all well n good reminding myself of Bitcoin's glaring limitations that all you Bitcoin Nutters don't want to acknowledge, that don't mean that Bitcoin aint gonna pump, and dump, and then pump again, to who really knows what limits. I suspect that the upper limits of this pump will ultimately be somewhere between $850-$1000. Has Bitcoin broken out it's range, is it now once again, a trending bull? For sure! But will it come back down to flush out all the weak hands and the too late to the party leveraged longs? I sure fkn hope so, otherwise the train has left the station, and I aint on it.
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I give you an A+ for owning your mistake as we all make them and a good trader owns it and learns from it.  I think you hit the nail on the head.  I managed a small hedge fund through the 90s and I got crushed 9 out of 10 times when I tried to play against the prevailing trend.  I would try to rationalize and sometimes even put more equity to work in a bad position.  The trend is your friend (I know it's a tired saying), but shorting Bitcoin at this point makes zero sense/cents.  You might get lucky scalping a little here and there, but the risk/reward isn't in your favor.  Buy the dips and scale into the current trend.  The trend can run for a long time s you know.  Bitcoin spent two years digesting the 2013 rocket ship ride, and I suspect it's now on it's way to eventually challenge the old highs.  Good luck!

Yep....trend is your friend, but only in a trending market. In a ranging market, trend is only your friend until spot hits the upper resistance levels. If the market was still in a ranging state, my trades probably would have worked, and I would be the smart one and all the permabulls would be the Silly Billies, but unfortunately for me, things turned out quiite the opposite.
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Bitcoin may pump, but it will dump. The dump is the only guarantee in crypto. Why? because nobody with any sense holds this vapor - they only use it to make more fiat. Fiat - you know, the stuff that actually buys things we want and need.

If you don't mind, I shall use that as my signature.

It should be the motto of every Bitcoin investor/trader, even those who think it is going to $10K.
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Bitcoin may pump, but it will dump. The dump is the only guarantee in crypto. Why? because nobody with any sense holds this vapor - they only use it to make more fiat. Fiat - you know, the stuff that actually buys things we want and need.

I dont use as a speculative Investment, I use it because by using it and smart ideas like purse I can spend about 30% less fiat on anything I want to actually buy. That in and of itself is a Utility function that makes it other than vapour, and one that will not vanish until Amazon actually enable a 3rd Party market in their free funding and eventually profit source that is gift vouchers.
Beyond that thanks to Circle and Stamp I can now move FX around between GBP, EUR and USD at a fraction of the cost I get charged via the financial System or even "new" Solutions like transferwise.


The other Problem with Gold of course is that other than being imperishable (unlike steel, which rusts of course) it has absolutely no Utility value other than being pretty.
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^^Fancy that, a cockroach posting pictures on the internet Shocked
What will they think of next?

Probably a roach talking to Cointelpro, JIDF, and Zionist banker shills on the Bitcointalk forum.  Thankfully they're too busy with Trump right now to flood this forum with goons who are a sad parody of the phrase:  "What good is it for a man to gain the world at the expense of one's soul"...
Please go ahead and short, banker shill acct.
How about you take out a short then.

Dear scurrying household pest:
There is no reason to be upset. Shorting Bitcoins is as stupid as going long; Bitscoin is mathematically proven to impoverish everyone who touches it.
The only winning move is not to play Sad






Please do not feed the trolls........  I stupidly threw a scrap of moron loaf into the troll cage.

I have used BTC to purchase many things in the real world and I used some in my most recent home purchase.  Ignorance is bliss, correct?

I have used BTCeanie BTCabies "to purchase many things in the real world." What's your point?
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^No, cockroach, almost none.
Have sold most in the 600s years ago. No regrets Smiley
P.S. who is that haglington & y u bitscoiners keep posting her?
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Dear scurrying household pest:
There is no reason to be upset. Shorting Bitcoins is as stupid as going long; Bitscoin is mathematically proven to impoverish everyone who touches it.

newbie
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^^Fancy that, a cockroach posting pictures on the internet Shocked
What will they think of next?

Probably a roach talking to Cointelpro, JIDF, and Zionist banker shills on the Bitcointalk forum.  Thankfully they're too busy with Trump right now to flood this forum with goons who are a sad parody of the phrase:  "What good is it for a man to gain the world at the expense of one's soul"...
Please go ahead and short, banker shill acct.
How about you take out a short then.

Dear scurrying household pest:
There is no reason to be upset. Shorting Bitcoins is as stupid as going long; Bitscoin is mathematically proven to impoverish everyone who touches it.
The only winning move is not to play Sad

I have used BTC to purchase many things in the real world and I used some in my most recent home purchase.  Ignorance is bliss, correct?

I have used BTCeanie BTCabies "to purchase many things in the real world." What's your point?
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You guys are funny.
But seriously, this will correct - the $470 top was reached, there are no buyers now, there will be more opportunities to buy cheaper so you can take your chances on whether or not this halving pump will actually happen.


Post something of substance.  You are either short, or you're hoping to buy in at a cheaper price point.  Simply state your position and what you're trying to accomplish.  I am long and adding on every dip.......

I have posted substance - I've called out the loudest voice of the brainwashing machine Roach - or can I call him Cock for short?


Called him out?  You're posts say otherwise.  Your post about Bitcoin being "vapor"  says all I need to know.  I have used BTC to purchase many things in the real world and I used some in my most recent home purchase.  Ignorance is bliss, correct?
legendary
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You guys are funny.
But seriously, this will correct - the $470 top was reached, there are no buyers now, there will be more opportunities to buy cheaper so you can take your chances on whether or not this halving pump will actually happen.


Post something of substance.  You are either short, or you're hoping to buy in at a cheaper price point.  Simply state your position and what you're trying to accomplish.  I am long and adding on every dip.......

I have posted substance - I've called out the loudest voice of the brainwashing machine Roach - or can I call him Cock for short?

How about you take out a short then.  If you could convince Mat to take out a 3rd short, that would be good for some comedy.
legendary
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You guys are funny.
But seriously, this will correct - the $470 top was reached, there are no buyers now, there will be more opportunities to buy cheaper so you can take your chances on whether or not this halving pump will actually happen.


Post something of substance.  You are either short, or you're hoping to buy in at a cheaper price point.  Simply state your position and what you're trying to accomplish.  I am long and adding on every dip.......

I have posted substance - I've called out the loudest voice of the brainwashing machine Roach - or can I call him Cock for short?
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
You guys are funny.
But seriously, this will correct - the $470 top was reached, there are no buyers now, there will be more opportunities to buy cheaper so you can take your chances on whether or not this halving pump will actually happen.


Post something of substance.  You are either short, or you're hoping to buy in at a cheaper price point.  Simply state your position and what you're trying to accomplish.  I am long and adding on every dip.......
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
You guys are funny.
But seriously, this will correct - the $470 top was reached, there are no buyers now, there will be more opportunities to buy cheaper so you can take your chances on whether or not this halving pump will actually happen.

Please go ahead and short, banker shill acct.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
You guys are funny.
But seriously, this will correct - the $470 top was reached, there are no buyers now, there will be more opportunities to buy cheaper so you can take your chances on whether or not this halving pump will actually happen.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
Bitcoin may pump, but it will dump. The dump is the only guarantee in crypto. Why? because nobody with any sense holds this vapor - they only use it to make more fiat. Fiat - you know, the stuff that actually buys things we want and need.


You are a freakin tool arse hat!  You have skin in the game if you're taking time out of your day to post  (childish and troll like garbage) regarding bitcoin.  Disclose your interest or vanish.  Damn cock roach!
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