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Many have recorded losses in all these online gambling applications but should stay out of it. Because you can't recover that money loss if you want, you should forget everything. Already know myself how gambling is made, how much i run into losses. But even knowing that we gamble again and again because there lies our source of income and entertainment. We only feel the right way when we lose gambling and feel that anger again and again. I myself am addicted to gambling but i don't hurt anyone because i feel profit and loss.
One of the easiest of losing more money in gambling is trying to recover money that was lose in gambling. When one comes into gambling and have in mind ever to lose money in gambling and wants to recover every lose,  it is an avenue for more lose.

 Gambling is always unpredictable and this is the reason why one should never think of recovering money lose in gambling because it is still possible to lose again trying to get back money in gambling. Sometimes one of the reason why gamblers want to get back loses is  because of greed and this is as result of lack understanding,  some gamblers also choose to recover money back because they gamble with the money that they can't afford to lose back.
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...since the main aim for gambling is to win and make profits then since we can't avoid winning, losses too should not be avoided cause they are all criterias in a game.

It will depend on what kind of goal a person sets for himself when going to the casino. And if the goal was to enjoy the game and get a dose of adrenaline, then he will not be upset about losing. If your goal was to win, then you should be aware that your goal It may not be achieved.
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It is clear that sometimes we all lose more money in gambling than we would like, but to curb their compulsive desires that can lead to large losses or even mental illness, you need to work hard on yourself.

If you fail to use the deposit limits try again and again and you will notice that one day you just stop after losing the money allocated for gambling.

Otherwise, you will not obey yourself, but gambling.

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Setting a budget is indispensable, especially when it comes to an activity like gambling which can easily put a massive dent in our savings if we are not careful, since even if I find gambling to be an entertaining activity, there is a lot more out there that I would like to do with my limited budget, so gambling is a relatively expensive activity when considering the small benefits that it brings, then it is better to limit our gambling so we can enjoy other activities as well.
Setting a budget and limit is really important to reduce how much can be spent on gambling. Why we enjoy that entertainment and fun it's meant for, but in some cases it's easier said than done. Some people have a limited set, which is supposed to be followed but can't remember when last they followed that pattern. There is always that thing in them that they can't control that always makes them break their daily limit until they have lost what they can. No longer, the refunding keeps on going until they are called upon.
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But even knowing that we gamble again and again because there lies our source of income and entertainment. We only feel the right way when we lose gambling and feel that anger again and again. I myself am addicted to gambling but i don't hurt anyone because i feel profit and loss.

The reason that some gamblers find it difficult to let go of losses is because of the mentality of having their source of living from it and therefore they must not lose. You may be lucky having this thought of source of income but majority of gamblers who think this way find themselves going back to deposit on their account because they refuse to let go. One thing that I understand about losing in gambling is if you decide not to stop while losing then you keep losing as your analysis would keep being wrong because the mindset is that of revenge which is wrong mentality.
Its just that losses are inevitable in gambling, so it’s much better to accept or prepare for it, rather than you keep chasing for wins until you’ve lose all your funds without knowing. The problem with majority of the gamblers is that once they decide to gamble, they start anticipating bigger wins. When we all know that it’s easier to lose in gambling, than to be lucky and making consistent gains.

Losses can be avoided/limited if you stop chasing for bigger wins. That’s the reality.
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Loss aversion is a cognitive bias in humans that shows that we tend to avoid losses more than we desire profits (twice as much). We avoid the confrontation of feeling that comes with loss, therefore taking more risk to chase losses.


Well people's opinion and perspective differs from one another and in the aspect of responsible gambling I think chasing over losses have been one issues that can't be opted out while gambling but it's not like it could be seen as biased, yes we can't dispute the fact that we make losses and so we can't shy away from them as well since the main aim for gambling is to win and make profits then since we can't avoid winning, losses too should not be avoided cause they are all criterias in a game.

Losses should only be avoided by staying away from the gambling not try to avoid it by gambling more. Losing is a feeling that comes with a lot of regrets and sometimes this feeling is hard to deal with, knowing that all that money you lost would have been put to good use, this would make you try to get that money back by chasing your losses. Moving on and forgetting about what you have lost takes a lot discipline. A gamblers instinct would always be to make profit and avoid losses, this is the mindset of most gamblers.
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Many have recorded losses in all these online gambling applications but should stay out of it. Because you can't recover that money loss if you want, you should forget everything. Already know myself how gambling is made, how much i run into losses. But even knowing that we gamble again and again because there lies our source of income and entertainment. We only feel the right way when we lose gambling and feel that anger again and again. I myself am addicted to gambling but i don't hurt anyone because i feel profit and loss.
Previously, if you really don't want to experience losses, then don't gamble, it seems better than doing it but are reluctant to experience losses because in gambling players only have a smaller chance of winning than the chance of getting a profit, therefore losses are clearly something that is certain to happen and no party is distinguished whether they are rich, have a lot of money, have good self-control or others, it's still the same, they only have a smaller chance of winning.
In my opinion, everyone who gambles is the same, of the many gambling that is done, losses are certainly more often experienced than wins, therefore before gambling we should be able to accept that what will definitely happen is a loss, this conscious behavior will determine us in the future because if we are not ready to experience losses, it can make us gamble excessively.
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Loss aversion is a cognitive bias in humans that shows that we tend to avoid losses more than we desire profits (twice as much). We avoid the confrontation of feeling that comes with loss, therefore taking more risk to chase losses.
Actually no one is ever happy losing, the goal is to gamble for fun Parhaps on a good day a the gambler will luckily win big and his story will change. But in most cases the gambler become the opposite of himself thereby given testimony of how he moved from being a responsible person to an inresponsible person due to gambling. The reason people chase lose more than win is due to the high chance of losing a strict. Because most guys will come with $500 gamble all and will be left with $10 now they don't border to win the casino but struggle to win back there loses and this case people to chase loses.

Casinos use this to trap you in a vicious circle of addiction. They will give you loss-back/rake-back in the quantity, which might not have enough appeal for you to withdraw, especially after a big loss (which enabled that loss back). They will do this either by giving you your loss back or rake back in small installments (daily, weekly, or monthly) instead of giving you a lump sum amount one time. It is not that they cannot give you more, but they will deliberately do this because they want you to play with that amount and take bigger risks.
If you ask me I will say casino don't use it as a trap Afterall its a programmed machine not a human, but rather people trap themselves to addiction. For example casino doesn't look for people, rather people look for it. Secondly casino don't detect for you how long you will continue to gamble when you have lost too often. It is your legal and or personal righ to gamble as little as you can, and leave the premises when you are not getting what you required. So how can you explain this to casino trapping people? In summary gambling addiction is %90 the fault of human not casino.


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I don't understand this. If losing money is painful for you, why do you continue? Sounds irrational to me.
Start playing in a casino only if you are okay with losing what you have allocated for the game. You shouldn't even start otherwise. Also, I disagree with the notion associated with loss aversion that "the pain of losing $100 is often far greater than the joy gained in finding the same amount". How can you compare pain and joy? They're entirely different experiences.

Losing money is painful to almost everyone whether it happens within or outside your pre ascribed bank roll. The question that why people gamble has various answers in psychology (dopamine, adrenaline etc.). Here we are discussing one of the major factors which can lead a fun and entertaining [even money making {poker, sports etc.}]  activity towards an addiction.
I think I agree to what "Betwrong" said, because judging by the popular saying we usually use in the gambling community (i.e Gamble what you can always afford to lose), it simply means if an individual was able to gamble $100, it automatically means he or she was willing and able to afford to lose that exact amount of money, of which I see no difference on which will be more painful or happier, inasmuch as it's the same amount of money that is either lost or won while gambling. Hence, inasmuch as everybody wants to win more while gambling, for me, I think when an equal amount is involved, the level of dopamine or adrenaline is literally at equilibrium.

Thanks for agreeing with me, but I want point out that when someone allocates $100 for gambling, he/she can lose it, yes, but regarding winning it can be much more than that. Say you play slots and bet $0.20 at a time and after 200-300 rolls you hit 1,000x. Your win is $200 then, right, so, maybe it's worth taking that into account when talking about Loss Aversion. Is the pain of losing $100 far greater than the joy gained in winning $200? And what about $2,000 if the multiplier was 10,000x?
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On a norm you can't detects and factor out when you gets addicted to gambling and to that which you constantly does at your own will time or spare time, that's why gambling and not setting limits to gamble is actually very risky and a bad habit to show easy way to addictions. And again anyone who are able to control greed can actually reduced the rate at which addiction shows in them.
It's true what you said friend, gambling without any set limits is bad behavior because it will only make us addicted to gambling, besides we know that when someone is addicted it will be difficult to get out, some cases that occur with those who are addicted and want to recover some even ask for help from experts such as psychologists, this can actually help but in my opinion it does not guarantee that they can recover for sure because the main point is in themselves, if they are still not wholeheartedly not to stay away from gambling it will be just as difficult even if helped by an expert.

For those who can control themselves such as being able to control their emotions, or greed and their mindset towards gambling, then the gambling activities they do do not need to be too worried about because the possibility of the impact of addiction will not occur because of the set limits.
For sure limit is an important integral of gambling because when gambling without taking precaution of your limit or located a specific amount to gamble with always land in fund mismanagement, but when there is limit and the limit is exhausted or is reached you would have to wait for that period or which you set to refill your gambling fund again with this, you wouldn't gambling uncontrollably rather you will gamble responsibly because there is a limit for it and it will also help reduce the eagerness want need and or worry over making a specific winning from the casino or the betting site which you are always, and often gambling from.
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Loss aversion is a cognitive bias in humans that shows that we tend to avoid losses more than we desire profits (twice as much). We avoid the confrontation of feeling that comes with loss, therefore taking more risk to chase losses.

Casinos use this to trap you in a vicious circle of addiction. They will give you loss-back/rake-back in the quantity, which might not have enough appeal for you to withdraw, especially after a big loss (which enabled that loss back). They will do this either by giving you your loss back or rake back in small installments (daily, weekly, or monthly) instead of giving you a lump sum amount one time. It is not that they cannot give you more, but they will deliberately do this because they want you to play with that amount and take bigger risks. After you lose that rake-back/loss-back, you will have an urge (twice as strong) to deposit and win back the lost amount (this is especially true if you are new to gambling), taking a higher risk to avoid the intra-confrontation with the fact that you have just lost x amount. The majority will lose again and again; some will even develop a defense mechanism to not even think about their big losses and continue focusing on depositing more money to cover losses.

This cognitive bias has some deep-rooted genesis in human psychology because of how we evolved. A shortage of food is more lethal than the happiness that comes with excessive food.

I am posting this because understanding this concept helps me become more responsible with my decision-making, and it might be helpful to you as well. I am eager to know opinions of other wise members.
 
You will find it quite helpful; https://insidebe.com/articles/loss-aversion/




Indeed, this has become a rampant issues nowadays and most people with gambling problems correlates to emotional go beyond control. They overlooked themselves thinking that gambling wrong decisions became the norms despite of thinking much more important reasons like of basic necessities rather than wants. If a person desires for more money instead of self sustaining demands, maybe that's an alarming case for someone and seriously been affected with gambling addiction.
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I understand the sentiment of not wanting to lose anything on the casino, and would go on increasing lengths (and even increasing bets) just to recoup losses. Most of the time, I can get out of that hole unscathed, recouping what I loss and even winning some. It's just recently that it lead me to lose 10x more than what I initially lost due to chasing losses.

Imagine losing just $10 on casino because you just wanted to have fun, and eventually losing $134 because you believed in your insanity that you can recoup that loss. To avoid doing the same thing from happening again, I ensure that my funds are locked somewhere wherein it's inconvenient to transfer to a casino.

Most of the time, casinos will give you good wins on low bets, but when you try to up the ante, that's when they know they reeled you in and will no longer give you any wins AT ALL.
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Loss aversion can be of two different concepts, you can try to avert losses by being hesitant in order to avoid the wrong games but in the process of that you can end up being unlucky, then there's also the idea of trying to recover everything you have lost by continuously gambling... Gamblers that do this don't know how to come to terms with reality, trying to change the outcome of a bad decision by making more bad decisions might put you in a precarious situation...The only way to be a responsible gambler Is to gamble moderately.
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I don't understand this. If losing money is painful for you, why do you continue? Sounds irrational to me.
It is simple! It's painful that they lose money and that's why people like that keep on chasing the loss out of that pain in the hopes of recovering. An unpopular mentality of pursue - overtake - to recover. A fallacy no gambler in his right principle senses should buy into.
If they hope that they can recover their losses, maybe they will be more disappointed. The casino will not let you take your lost money back to you but the casino will get more money from you without you realize. Chasing the losses will make you suffer and that is painful for you. Maybe you think that is irrational for you but that is what happen to many gamblers so they will still want to recover their losses and win for the other money. They don't think about more losses that they can get from gambling but their minds will keep telling to try to get their money back.
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When you dont set out limits then it will really be that a huge recipe for disaster and this is something that you would really be needing up to consider when it comes on dealing up with gambling.
Limit your losses and never tend to chase those loses too on which this will really be that resulting into further deposits on which this is something which isnt really that recommended. On the moment or time that you do find out yourself spending too much on which it is really that more than on what you had budgeted then it will really be that wise that you should be stopping immediately.
Never ever make yourself that be controlled with your emotions because this is where people do usually messed up on the moment that they will tolerate out those bad decisions.
Setting a budget is indispensable, especially when it comes to an activity like gambling which can easily put a massive dent in our savings if we are not careful, since even if I find gambling to be an entertaining activity, there is a lot more out there that I would like to do with my limited budget, so gambling is a relatively expensive activity when considering the small benefits that it brings, then it is better to limit our gambling so we can enjoy other activities as well.
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I don't understand this. If losing money is painful for you, why do you continue? Sounds irrational to me.
It is simple! It's painful that they lose money and that's why people like that keep on chasing the loss out of that pain in the hopes of recovering. An unpopular mentality of pursue - overtake - to recover. A fallacy no gambler in his right principle senses should buy into.

On a norm you can't detects and factor out when you gets addicted to gambling and to that which you constantly does at your own will time or spare time, that's why gambling and not setting limits to gamble is actually very risky and a bad habit to show easy way to addictions. And again anyone who are able to control greed can actually reduced the rate at which addiction shows in them.
How would anyone not know when they have started showing addictive behaviours towards gambling. I don't entirely agree about them not knowing, what I understand is that they are very good in refusing to admit that they have fallen into addiction net but within their quiet time they tell themself the truth but don't know how to stop it.
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And you think people can take their minds off gambling money? That is not possible, the majority of people gambling do it for the money and it will remain like that forever.
Many people do not do it for the money. You can see someone that is very rich but like to gamble. The funniest thing would be that he is using a very small amount for the gambling. From the poor to the rich people, you will some people in all the pyramidal stage that are gambling.
One can argue that to some extent, they are still gambling for the money since even the rich ones do want to earn money or double the money they have. Even the rich ones are not exempted to liking money. They probably like it even more than the rest of us since they know and have lived the power of it. The difference is that even if they lose, it doesn’t hurt much.
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People are different in life. There are many people that do not gamble for making money.
The category should be are you gambling for your survival or for fun? All of us want to earn money even if we’re having fun but for some their job is quite literally gambling and everything is on the line for them.
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And you think people can take their minds off gambling money? That is not possible, the majority of people gambling do it for the money and it will remain like that forever.
Many people do not do it for the money. You can see someone that is very rich but like to gamble. The funniest thing would be that he is using a very small amount for the gambling. From the poor to the rich people, you will some people in all the pyramidal stage that are gambling.
Of course, there are exceptions to the general rule, everybody cannot gamble for the money but the majority still carries the vote, I only general it based on the majority. For instance, I do not gamble casino games for the money since many years ago ever since I realised how it works, but I engage in sports betting for the money. This proves that some people will not gamble for the money, it's all about what we want at that time as gambling has proven to give money, fun, relieve stress and worries etc.
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On a norm you can't detects and factor out when you gets addicted to gambling and to that which you constantly does at your own will time or spare time, that's why gambling and not setting limits to gamble is actually very risky and a bad habit to show easy way to addictions. And again anyone who are able to control greed can actually reduced the rate at which addiction shows in them.
It's true what you said friend, gambling without any set limits is bad behavior because it will only make us addicted to gambling, besides we know that when someone is addicted it will be difficult to get out, some cases that occur with those who are addicted and want to recover some even ask for help from experts such as psychologists, this can actually help but in my opinion it does not guarantee that they can recover for sure because the main point is in themselves, if they are still not wholeheartedly not to stay away from gambling it will be just as difficult even if helped by an expert.

For those who can control themselves such as being able to control their emotions, or greed and their mindset towards gambling, then the gambling activities they do do not need to be too worried about because the possibility of the impact of addiction will not occur because of the set limits.
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I have this consciousness while gambling because a casinos always explore the best mechanism to entrapped gamblers even though they are losing it wouldn't occur to them that it's the right time to set limit for themselves while gambling, overly it's as important as not to be carried by their rake-back/loss-back and their purpose of having that assigned is to keep gambler continue gambling without the subconsciousness of having them deceived in a particular circle to keep gambling and making much deposit with the intention of having them meet with their weekly/months bonuses.
Many people forget about the limits that they should apply in their behavior in gambling, especially with beginners who usually only think about winning, usually they will not see the risk side which is actually greater. Actually, before gambling, they should have thought about setting limits in gambling, such as from the funds that will be allocated to gambling that are set in amount, and not extending the gambling session when it has ended in defeat. People who are irresponsible with the gambling they do are those who will experience the negative impacts of gambling, addiction and destruction of life will happen sooner or later. Moreover, if they think that they will be able to win in gambling, it will make them trapped in gambling and it is difficult to get out, and when it is like this, it is usually difficult to be aware so they will not easily stop even though they have lost a lot of money.
On a norm you can't detects and factor out when you gets addicted to gambling and to that which you constantly does at your own will time or spare time, that's why gambling and not setting limits to gamble is actually very risky and a bad habit to show easy way to addictions. And again anyone who are able to control greed can actually reduced the rate at which addiction shows in them.
When you dont set out limits then it will really be that a huge recipe for disaster and this is something that you would really be needing up to consider when it comes on dealing up with gambling.
Limit your losses and never tend to chase those loses too on which this will really be that resulting into further deposits on which this is something which isnt really that recommended. On the moment or time that you do find out yourself spending too much on which it is really that more than on what you had budgeted then it will really be that wise that you should be stopping immediately.
Never ever make yourself that be controlled with your emotions because this is where people do usually messed up on the moment that they will tolerate out those bad decisions.
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