Topic: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system - page 4. (Read 13679 times)

Well another thing would be to have them post under their own name like you seem to be suggesting Timelord, but I am thinking that if they are my agent(s), then they should post under a Nym that I am able to control and that clearly states the relationship.. otherwise it is too ambiguous, too weird, and even likely to have backlash on me, too... and maybe even harder to keep track if there were to be multiple accounts (besides starting out with one), so now, I am already getting more worried about these kinds of ideas, but I have not yet put such a thing into practice, and I am ONLY thinking about doing it and I am in the conceptual stages.. and I would think that if I clearly state the relationship and maybe even place a neutral trust explainer into my profile and into the profile of my other Nym, then that should be helpful so long as they do not do dumb shit (like Loyce mentioned) in regards to employing the short-cut allure of plagiarism.

Why not have multiple UID's e.g.

• brand_Jess
• brand_Mike
• brand_Sally
• brand_Hank

to differentiate exactly who is posting ?

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I am pretty sure that I would be reviewing all the posts until I get to trust anyone posting from the account.. and that sometimes my own inabilities to sufficiently delegate...   but yeah, I am not really used to using plagiarism tools.. and for sure I would not want posts that are not either original content or adequately citing the source.. so I suppose that should be part of the training process regarding citing sources properly... and in writing my response, I can see where there could end up being a danger because so many folks do like to take short-cuts.. and surely teachers these days have become experts on searching for plagiarism.

You can just leave neutral feedback in both directions: "LoyceMobile is my alt, don't deal with it, I use it on untrusted devices/locations. To reach me, talk to LoyceV only.". That confirms it's not just an imposter.

Tricky: they'd better not break plagiarism rules, or you risk taking the fall.

I was planning on creating an alt account that would clearly be connected to me because it will have some variation of my name within it, and I am planning to use it as a kind of business account.. meaning that it would be tied to a kind of work/project that I am doing and planning to do.. and I am thinking that my first post with such account (once I make it) will attempt to describe what I am going to try to do with the account that is connected with me.. might not always be me posting from it (even though I have authorized all the posts therein)... something like that... still working out the details.

Of course, for me, I would not be cross trusting or sending smerits to such account.. and I am not sure if there might be backlash or confusion.. and I am hoping to work most of that stuff out as I go.. .. but still it is a project that I am "getting around to" in terms of how it is going to be presented on the forum and through my intended alt account.

I understand that you are joking. Suppose You added someone to your Distrust list; an Average person will also add you to his distrust list. But, A Wise guy who wants to use the system accordingly won't distrust you back. About Jolly Case, I didn't add him to my distrust list just because he distrusted my judgment. I took two weeks to observe his behavior and figured out it's a regular thing he loves doing. Oh, What I am talking about? I guess you know better than me.

As a result of these explanations, I am going to put you in my distrust list. 

Naaaa, just joking.

Although the doubt I had when I saw your trust list, it made me learn somethinh new, such as the fact that


I may have confused you with someone else as I remember someone saying they had two other accounts.

Kind regards.

Well, I use Telegram Notification Bot so I already got notified that you guys were talking about me. May I join, please?


Let me correct it a little bit. I have two accounts here. One AnotherAlt, another is Crypt0S0ul (Which was created in 2020 but I could not post due to an IP ban. LoyceV helped me to get whitelisted). About your assumption of having another account, I created a few more accounts because all the accounts contained evil points and asked to pay some BTC, which I didn't pay. I chose the AnotherAlt account to pay evil fees because it had fewer evil fees than others. If you are talking about Privacy, why do I ask Royse not to reveal me; I work for a crypto platform and don't want to involve myself with them within this forum. I want to be an independent individual in this forum who doesn't have any responsibility for the platform here. Royse and Bitlucy owner know which platform it is. I hope he will keep it a secret.


Well, I care about forum rules and I want to follow them accordingly. I also want to follow some ethics. Cryp0S0ul, My Main account is still in newbie rank. It doesn't have a custom trust list. Since I have earned some merits in this account, I started posting more and using this account. I use Cryp0S0ul on my mobile device and it doesn't have a Custom Trust list.


Well, I don't have a problem explaining further. On June 3rd Week, I added icopress and LoyceV to my Trust list because in my opinion, They have a good Trust list, and their Feedback seems reasonable to me. In July Last week, I added yahoo62278, Royse777, o_e_l_e_o, NotATether, and KingsDen. I found they also have an excellent Trustlist, and most Feedback seems correct except KingsDen. I added KingsDen because I see his Trustlist is good, but I didn't check his Feedback. Today I removed him because, in my opinion, He left some feedback that is not the correct use of the feedback system. In the same week, I realized JollyGood Distrust my Judgment Just because I made This and This posts, JollyGood Added me on his distrust list.


I took it as a regular thing and moved forward. Last week, I added The Pharmacist, BitcoinGirl.Club, and dkbit98. I checked all of their Trust list and Feedback, which seems pretty much correct (If I see 90% of their Feedback is correct, it seems good to me). I saw BitcoinGirl.Club created a thread and criticized JollyGood's behavior. Her arguments look good. I am still confused about Her Feedback on JollyGood. I don't think it's 100% correct. But, her posts and Judgment Convinced me to add her to my Trust list. I also saw she distrusts yahoo, which I don't. I excluded JollyGood because, in my opinion, I don't think he is using the system correctly. Not only BitcoinGirl.Club and other members criticized him for his ghost-hunting behavior and attitude.

First, sockpuppets used for DT1-voting will be blacklisted from voting once discovered.

We can't know for sure indeed. So I checked his Trust inclusions: 8 out of 10 users have more than enough inclusions to not need another "small 10 Merit vote". One user has only 4 more votes than the required 10. That's still 3 other user's votes away from making a difference to the outcome. And there's one user with only one vote, which means there's no sockpuppeting for sure.

I'm pretty sure there are more alt accounts that didn't confirm they're alt accounts. AnotherAlt is open about it, and I don't see much harm done here.

I now have a doubt when consulting this trust list:


While scrolling down, I've seen that AnotherAlt trusts The Pharmacist's judgement.

So, I went to look, and saw that AnotherAlt has a trust list, which seems to be under construction.

According to him he has two other accounts on the forum, making three in total. Assuming he is cautious about privacy, the trust lists of the other two are not going to be exactly the same, but presumably some of the members he trusts have a boost in the DT system because he includes them in his trust list three times while he is one person.

I don't know to what extent we should consider this as acceptable. It's not completely unacceptable in my opinion but seems to me morally questionable.

Another thing is if we can not know which are the other two accounts and therefore, even if we consider that including in three trust lists the same person being you one is morally questionable.

I don't know what you think about it.

I am obviously referring to LoyceV, but I welcome comments from other forum members as well.

If we go to his trust list we can see that he distrusts JollyGood and trusts Royse777, dkbit98 and BitcoinGirl.Club, which after all the recent drama is a big lol and a half.

It's working now LoyceV, thanks much