Topic: LoyceV's reputation thread - page 4. (Read 3175 times)

Would it be frowned upon if I leave trust from my alt? I'm in doubt, because technically my alt account didn't do anything, but it would be a nice "workaround" to be able to leave less heavy feedback.

I'm asking because I recently participated in a $50 giveaway, which only required writing a review after trying the site. This was paid as promised. I want to leave feedback, but not DT-feedback, as my little experience with the site doesn't justify that.

Update: I'll leave trust from LoyceMobile.

The bolded part is the reason why I vouch for your trust ratings, IMO every DT member should do that but they really don't care, I have posted several threads in reputation board and some of the trusted members have already said that leaving me negative trust is not needed but since the DTs who'd tagged me are trust abusers they never cared about what the community members say. of course, your way could also work, first tag people and then ask them to post their appeal for the community and if there were enough votes against the tag, simply remove them.

However why I said that you should select 3 people which you completely trust is because people could use their alt accounts to shill for themselves and vote no.

I misinterpreted that, I thought you meant for everyone in general.
This won't be needed, as I can stand behind the red trust I left without any doubt. So far, only one person (mrjoy15) asked me to remove it. I told him to create a thread in Reputation, bump it daily for a week, and see what the community thinks about his case. He didn't want to do that, he stopped posting instead of contributing to the forum, and after he asked me the same thing every month for a few times, I put him on ignore.

Go ahead then. Pick 3 members, ask them via PM, or post a thread about EACH AND EVERY neg trust rating.

Perhaps you can see now that there's a bit of a problem with this? No?

I meant for you to pick 3 neutral members and ask their opinions about a negative trust rating. it would be a great contribution if those 3 selected neutral members could spend their time voting but that's just my humble opinion.

There's an update on the red trust I received. I received a PM from elsie34, saying it was a mistake and should have been positive trust. It's now deleted.

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Thanks, I guess

Thanks!

I think my skin thickness if just fine. But that doesn't mean I look away when I feel something isn't right.

It's going to be a lot of work to check evidence on all cases. I think the large majority of all DT-trust is valid.

Stupid idea. Basically you're suggesting to reduce the trust system to 3 members.

Polls can be abused. 

I would like to propose a new voting system, pick 3 neutral forum members and post a poll everytime you want to tag somebody with red, ask these 3 individuals to vote, if they voted against a red tag then don't leave a negative trust.

As well you become DT member, now you need to grow a thicker skin to accept this kind of untrusted feedback. Because when you leave red trust to some one , may be they will also leave a negetive feed back. It doesn't reflect on your trust rating you know very well. So forget aboutunteustes feedback, let them do it.

You can send green trust any one if there is appropriate reson. If some one have green trust there is reason on comment. It might be for dealing crypto or for behavior. You leave green trust means you trust him/her for a specifics reason. If you leave green trust for like "Helping new people to understand forum"  or " Fighting against scam/spam " , This green trust doesn't mean some one can dealing money with him/her. Absolutely it's not abuse of green trust. Because you leave green trust appropriate and a specific reason.

You are one of the people on this forum who I respect and trust although I have never left you green trust. You don't really need to explain to anyone why you left positive trust to people you trust, they can find link in reference, and even if they can't...
As for this account with neutral feedback, have you lost your mind    This guy is scammer, read "non-DT accustions" pointing to ponzi threads operated by them.

Although one could argue with that by saying that the people who involved with Loyce here trusted him with their money for 10 whole months, and that sometimes is considered to be a fact,after all it is a trust system. The amount involved was fairly small, but nonetheless, I don't think anything would be wrong in giving those people a positive trust.

Its a compliment to LoyceV,you should be telling this to the butthurt The Pharmacist. 

Stop whining.  There are forums that are English-language ones, and you're complaining about that?  Not to mention that there are many local boards where people can post if they don't speak English.

If people would stop trying to write in a language they don't know, there wouldn't be any problems, but we all know there IS a problem and we all know why it exists. 

You complain that we should only tag scammers (not prohibited by the forum) but complain that some spammers get tagged because it's not a forum rule.  Yeah, that makes sense.

LoyceV you are far greater than any other DT member here!

Especially those who are abusing the current TRUST SYSTEM..negative trust should be given to those scammers like what Theymos has told those fuckers to do so,SPAMMERS? this is just BULLSHIT spam wont stop and thats the fact tell me a forum which doesnt have spam ...merit abusers?FUCK THEYMOS..he already said that this is not moderated why Default trust users are giving redtrusts to those people who are giving their alts merits whats the fucking business? Theymos doesnt care why would these shitty little babies care?? SHITPOSTERS? oh hell the fuckin world was created not once,not with only one language,english shouldnt be the standard language of this forum yes it was created by a well trained native speaker,but he should know what others will fucking feel about these racism...MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS? if Theymos wanted to ban these multi-account users why he didnt put it on the rules?


These DT members are fucked up,they do have their own rules which clearly violate everyone's shitholes.

I dont blame theymos but i do blame these DT's for not being fair to users,these fuckers should listen to the bible of this forum,RULES OF RULES.
If these morons wanted you to have REDS....they would search for some good reason and if they have found a single good reason,the paint would yours.

I do only admire Hilariousco/etc and you LoyceV as a DT member which is quite fair for most of the users....others are fucked up by their own beliefs.

Regarding the negative trust, I have seen people leaving only neutral "comment" like : "I've never dealt with this person."
You can do the same and explain what happen without painting it in RED.

Just to add >

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=elsie34

The users has one post and one Thread deleted. Maybe it is something in this direction.

Thanks for sharing so many opinions already, it's much appreciated.
I like how there's more or less consensus not to respond with red trust. This answers my question, I'll just ignore the weird unexplained red trust I got.

I thought about this, and will explain my reasoning:

• I've seen hilariousandco leave trust "Paid and participating in the BitcoinTalk Premier League betting pool." to a dozen users in a smiliar thing, and I've seen minerjones leave for example this feedback: "Won auction, paid directly. Good communication. Thanks!!"
  Since I'm new to leaving positive DT-trust, I used these users as my main example.
• I've read more discussion about whether or not DT should leave positive trust after deals, and the opinions seemed to vary. The trust I left shows "Risked BTC amount 0", which is supposed to be used to weigh the trust.
• All people involved joined before I was put on DT. My plan (from the start) was to leave trust afterwards, just like I did to the people who (last year) joined my airdrop sharing service for 3 months in a row (I didn't leave trust for people who joined 1 or 2 months only). I probably won't do it again after ROUND 2, as I don't want people to join just to earn DT-trust.

Would I have left the positive trust to them if I would have started this thread earlier? I'm not sure now. But I do know I don't want to remove it now either.

No it's real. I did not mean that it should not be used responsibly at any level, my emphasis was on DTs  
A DT should feel (be) more responsible and accurate on leaving their feedback.

You're overthinking it. Nobody cares about those garbage negs. Nobody that matters I mean. Forget it.


I can't tell if you're being sarcastic but I think that's wrong. The trust system should be used responsibly at any level.

I wouldn't say I understand the trust system very well, if I would then perhaps I could save my account from the neg by hilariousandco. Anyway it's irrelevant here.

Being a DT is a great responsibility. You are one of those trusted member who are representing the entire forum reputation. It's good to see that you think twice before leaving a feedback and I hope all the DTs do the same, even after they leave a feedback (heads up to marlboroza). There could be situations where you could be wrong for your judgement and admitting it - is not gonna make you less respectful.

The feedback from elsie34 is an untrusted feedback so it does not matter. Seems like the person wanted to give you a positive one but end up selecting the wrong option. I used to leave a neutral trust if I felt that I was given red for a wrong reason (now a days I don't even care ever since I got the red and another neutral from Lutpin. The Lutpin one did not affect me much mentally but the hilari one destroyed me mentally) to explain why I was misjudged. I think leaving neutral is ok when you see you need to defend a red. Leaving red to defend an unnecessary red is kind of abusing the trust system especially when you are a DT coz your trust counts.

Well-done on the topic.

Correct, for a non DT it's ok to do whatever they want (use/abuse of anything), nobody counts but once someone become a DT then they are basically a role model/an example for the forum.