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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

Luck is the must important for gambling specially for casino game but for sportsbet skill is more important then luck. if you Don't have skill but have a great luck then you will able to win a big thing from gambling but if you have skill but Don't have enough luck then you will not win anything big. so i think luck is more important then skill on gambling

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

For me gambling needs pure luck. Gambling is not based on optical illusion which we can do a trick and consider it as skill. Online casinos run on codes so how on earth do we know which bet will win next? It is like comparing AI and humans they both have similarities when it comes to functions but there were also a lot of differences. I beleive gambing is a game of luck not a skill.

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Quote from: moneystery on November 16, 2023, 10:14:02 AM

i would say luck is the most important factor in gambling. just imagine when you have skills but unfortunately your internet goes down in the middle of the game, or the game suddenly errors and your match doesn't count, that's definitely very annoying because you have to lose because of a trivial problem. but when you have high luck, no matter what your skills are, you will be able to win by relying on your luck in any way.

Luck could be obtained anytime when you are gambling, but it isn't always on your side, if you have the skill you can still manage to win as you know the mechanics, techniques, etc. Let's say from your given scenario, that you are already an experienced gambler, you might have alternate options from that issue like having cellular data to back up your internet or autosave your settings things like that.

Because luck itself would be useless if you don't even know what to do as you lack the knowledge, imagine you won a huge amount in gambling but you don't even know how to simply cash out the money from digital gambling, which might have a negative effect if you search or ask someone that might scam you right. That's why both luck and skills must be combined for the gambler would have the advantage and benefits.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

In my opinion, I think it's a combination of both luck and skill that leads to success in gambling but we can not deny that luck plays a big role in gambling. Although, we may also consider that there are strategies and techniques that can improve your chances of winning even if luck is the main factor. Even if luck is the main factor in gambling, there are several ways that you can improve your chances of winning by using strategy and skill. knowing the basic strategy can help you make better decisions about whether to play a certain option or not which can improve your overall results. This scenario is just like a body and a soul that can not do without each other.

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Quote from: Latviand on November 14, 2023, 10:03:27 AM

It's all skill, luck is out of your control so how can you train something to the point of improvement if you don't have any direct control over it? It's common sense so I don't get how people have a hard time thinking over which is important. Some say that it depends on the game but fuck that because that's not true, luck will never be a factor that can contribute to your gambling success so just improve solely on skill in gambling, maybe if real life was some kind of a role-playing game like Dungeons and Dragons or Diablo, you can probably argue to me that luck can be improved as we have an access on our own character stats and we can choose which attributes we want to allocate are points on. Another noteworthy thing to add is that if you're aiming to be successful in gambling, prepare to be frustrated because gambling should be fun and gambling competitively is not the way to go gambling because being competitive and too serious about it is going to suck the fun and enjoyment out of it.

Both skill and luck is important you need skill to set up a bet and luck to win because a newbie placing a bet without proper understanding of how to select games might just be the bettor wasting their money because of the lack of skill. And luck needed to be prayed for. And another thing about skill is that it will get to a point where you have to pull put of some game, if not for that you will end up losing every money.

I will strongly disagree that luck is not needed but skill. If that is the case then their will not be no any lose but even the so called professional gamblers are still losing good money talk more of relying on skill alone. Gambling have put smile on people's face and the same time have broken plenty of hearts, so what ever any point anyone is going with should be left that way.

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Quote from: moneystery on November 16, 2023, 10:14:02 AM

i would say luck is the most important factor in gambling. just imagine when you have skills but unfortunately your internet goes down in the middle of the game, or the game suddenly errors and your match doesn't count, that's definitely very annoying because you have to lose because of a trivial problem. but when you have high luck, no matter what your skills are, you will be able to win by relying on your luck in any way.

It's a very important factor in gambling, all gamblers want luck because only that will be able to lead them to victory, but the problem is that it's not easy to get that luck, and that's why so many gamblers suffer a lot of losses with large amounts. For the problem of luck is completely out of our control and maybe only time will be able to answer it about when the luck will come. And yes that's right guys, for the problem of luck is not only related to the final result of gambling, but there are several other things that also really need luck, in my opinion for the things you said above are not too inclined to luck but more towards someone's bad luck. Because of course in terms of gambling when we discuss luck, the topic will always refer to the final result which usually always does not match expectations.

But forget it, in essence, in any case luck is quite necessary, especially in gambling because only it will be able to determine whether the final result will be in accordance with expectations or disappointing again.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

OP, this topic has been discussed here tomes without numbers and the facts remains the same. Luck is all what a gamblers needs to win big and not skill. This is because gambling is a 50/50 thing that even the best skillful gambler can't win any game without luck on his side.

However, there are some skillful games that the gambler must apply his skill in order to win such game, I think that is if the gambler is playing with someone that is not as skillful like him. But id two professional poker players are playing, the winner will be based on lick because the cards that you pick is what will determine who wins the game and you must be lucky to pocks good cards in your favor. Without luck it wouldn't be called gamble.

I have seen gamblers who won big without knowing much on the game that they bet on because that was their lucky day. I have also seen a skillful gambler who believes in himself but loss big because he had a bad luck day.

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i would say luck is the most important factor in gambling. just imagine when you have skills but unfortunately your internet goes down in the middle of the game, or the game suddenly errors and your match doesn't count, that's definitely very annoying because you have to lose because of a trivial problem. but when you have high luck, no matter what your skills are, you will be able to win by relying on your luck in any way.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

Luck and skill have different paths in gambling. Luck can come to anyone and at any time for every gambler, usually gamblers hope for luck such as getting a jackpot while fighting the system (slot machine). Meanwhile, gamblers who play against players, such as playing Texas Holdem (poker) or other types of cards played by more than one person, rely more on skill than luck. These two elements have different places in gambling, but are very necessary to win according to your goals.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

You can apply skills in sports betting and could possibly have success, but if you only apply luck on sports betting your chances are not good, on luck based games like dice, it's hard to develop your skill because it luck based and all winnings are random and hard to predict, I already consider success in gambling if you break even or win a small amount and still enjoy the game, gambling platform after all are entertainment portal, just like when you're watching a movie and you feel that you are refresh and you are ready for tomorrow's adventure in your work or daily activities.
If you're going to be lucky in luck-based gambling you are going to be lucky whether you have skill or none, but on sports betting, you can do it with more skill and a little luck so its basically based on the territory.

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Quote from: Latviand on November 16, 2023, 09:28:15 AM

I disagree with you that it's only in sports betting that you need any skill, shouldn't it be the reverse because when you're betting you just need the analysis of the game, you rely on the skill of the players so technically it's not a skill based gambling because it's not your skill that decides who's going to win. Believe what you want to believe, luck for me is just the easy explanation of the chaotic nature of probability and chances.

If we make it real specific on what skill are we talking about, sports betting is more on the side of skill based, understanding the odds and finding where you can get the best odds is in some way a skill that improves your patience and perceptiveness, maybe you can somehow consider controlling your emotions as a skill that you need to hone, you should not get easily mad when your team is not doing well or when they are winning, control the emotion of being too greedy and exiting early to get a decent win from you bet. Analysis is considered a skill too right? Being able to read how a player will perform for the team is something that not a lot of people can do because they are focused on the whole team. I like your opinion about luck but I do not think that luck is just like that, it is like your faith in the Supreme Being, you cannot measure it nor see it but you know it is there.

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Are you talking about sports betting? Because skills only matter in sports betting and not in gambling games, and you don't need to have control over your luck for it to influence the results, luck just exists, it can be and cannot be in your favor at times and that is how the outcomes are determined when you are gambling. You can't control or change your luck, just like how you can't apply any skill on a slot machine to be able to get a big win because you can't do that.

So, believe it or not, luck does play a great role in gambling, whether you can train it or not, whether you can change it or not, it's only luck that determines whether you will win or lose a certain bet when you are playing a gambling game and there is nothing one can do about that.

There are games that require skills besides sports betting, poker and blackjack is a good example of games that requires some skill although the skill you need in blackjack might get you banned in certain casinos but poker, you do need skills on that one because you can't be telling what you have with your facial expressions and you should have the skills to bait someone into sweetening the pot when you're winning and also the ability to observe the tell of your opponents helps too and is a skill so I disagree with you that it's only in sports betting that you need any skill, shouldn't it be the reverse because when you're betting you just need the analysis of the game, you rely on the skill of the players so technically it's not a skill based gambling because it's not your skill that decides who's going to win. Believe what you want to believe, luck for me is just the easy explanation of the chaotic nature of probability and chances.

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Like some of us may have in mind that there is nothing like skills in the world of gambling either for fun or for profits there is no skill for it, all I know is that as long as gambling is involved only luck can make a gambler win not even a lucky charm.
Why I said what I said is because there are some gamblers that have been into the system of gambling but haven't gotten any big win but just a new time gamblers can start to gamble today and end up wing huge amount of money that even the old time gambler haven't won before. I am just trying to say that only luck can speak for gamblers and not the skills that they might have in gamble why because even with how you might have known a specific odds that come all the time, a day will come when that special odd will make you lose more while gambling.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

In my personal opinion I always think that luck always plays a more important role in gambling. I don't think skill plays any important role in gambling if you look at the skill issue in gambling is only limited to learning how to play the game you want to gamble. After that whether you win or lose in gambling it totally depends on your luck.
Things are very similar in the case of sports betting but here you need to know the details and news updates about the sports you are going to gamble on. Then it will be possible to speculate a lot about the performance of a team. In this case, people often consider gambling as a skill. But at the end of the day it's also depend on the luck. So I would say luck is more important than skill in gambling if skill was more important in gambling then it could be thought of as an ideal career.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on November 14, 2023, 09:20:13 AM

I think it just depends on what kind of gambling you're going to choose, if you want to gamble on bets that are really purely based on luck then yes the answer means you need full luck in that session, but the question is that anyone will never know when they will be able to get lucky and go home with a win, that's the initial problem. Another thing, if indeed you choose to gamble on some bets that really require skills such as one of them may be sports then yes obviously you must at least have some skills that are needed there, have basic analysis and knowledge of the sport you choose which indirectly it will be useful to increase your chances of winning.

But on the other hand even though these two things look separate, still in any bet basically you will really need the luck factor, because obviously for the final result will still refer to how lucky you are. So in my opinion the two things above cannot be completely separated because everything will be involved in each other to achieve quite tantalizing results.

What are full-luck games? Are they games like slots for example? But we have seen lots of threads which gives tips and tricks on how we can increase our chances of winning on them. I guess that'll still help. As for those opposite games or the ones who mainly requires a skill, we also need some luck on them because some times we can lose our bets no matter how skillful we think we are and no matter how much preparation we did before we place our bets.

Overall, it is hard to be successful in gambling if our goal is to earn a profit but there is always a better alternative for it. Meanwhile, it is pretty much achievable to be successful in gambling if our only goal is to have fun.

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Quote from: Latviand on November 14, 2023, 10:03:27 AM

It's all skill, luck is out of your control so how can you train something to the point of improvement if you don't have any direct control over it? It's common sense so I don't get how people have a hard time thinking over which is important. Some say that it depends on the game but fuck that because that's not true, luck will never be a factor that can contribute to your gambling success so just improve solely on skill in gambling, maybe if real life was some kind of a role-playing game like Dungeons and Dragons or Diablo, you can probably argue to me that luck can be improved as we have an access on our own character stats and we can choose which attributes we want to allocate are points on. Another noteworthy thing to add is that if you're aiming to be successful in gambling, prepare to be frustrated because gambling should be fun and gambling competitively is not the way to go gambling because being competitive and too serious about it is going to suck the fun and enjoyment out of it.

Are you talking about sports betting? Because skills only matter in sports betting and not in gambling games, and you don't need to have control over your luck for it to influence the results, luck just exists, it can be and cannot be in your favor at times and that is how the outcomes are determined when you are gambling. You can't control or change your luck, just like how you can't apply any skill on a slot machine to be able to get a big win because you can't do that.

So, believe it or not, luck does play a great role in gambling, whether you can train it or not, whether you can change it or not, it's only luck that determines whether you will win or lose a certain bet when you are playing a gambling game and there is nothing one can do about that.

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Quote from: swogerino on November 15, 2023, 03:12:13 AM

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Gambling with pure luck may be the worst strategy in the first place and I guess you refer to games that rely 100% on luck yet the biggest win on casinos are not on sport betting but on such games,the multi million dollar jackpots are all won on slot machines or on state lotteries which rely 100% on luck.Based on this I would say that luck is much more important in case you are after huge wins or after life changing wins in most countries depending on your base bet,if you want to win consistently then sport betting is the way to go as some analysis or insights greatly increase your odds for winning,of course not those huge amounts.

types of bets other than sports betting, the opportunity to get a very big win is more visible because it is all based on luck and will only come once in a lifetime, but sports betting can also get big wins such as jackpots in luck based games but you have to use multi bets, choose several teams with odds above @1000+ and to get this win, its the same as a casino game, you have to rely on luck because of course there are many teams that come with surprises.

and regarding consistent winnings I agree with you we can rely on our skills to analyze in sports betting and only choose single bets to get more accurate results.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 14, 2023, 05:09:03 PM

Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

IMO, skill is more important, because that is something what you can do about to minimize the risk of losing. Also you need analysis in the case of sports betting. Luck is something that is out of our control, so I don't think we put more importance to it over gambling skills and analysis.
Gambling with pure luck is the worst way of gambling IMO. I'd better have my own strategy, skills, analysis or whatever you call it to minimize the risk of losing on my bets which is far better than just depending in luck.
I have another interesting question. Does winning in sports betting because you did your research and analysis were considered luck?

Gambling with pure luck may be the worst strategy in the first place and I guess you refer to games that rely 100% on luck yet the biggest win on casinos are not on sport betting but on such games,the multi million dollar jackpots are all won on slot machines or on state lotteries which rely 100% on luck.Based on this I would say that luck is much more important in case you are after huge wins or after life changing wins in most countries depending on your base bet,if you want to win consistently then sport betting is the way to go as some analysis or insights greatly increase your odds for winning,of course not those huge amounts.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 14, 2023, 05:09:03 PM

Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

IMO, skill is more important, because that is something what you can do about to minimize the risk of losing. Also you need analysis in the case of sports betting. Luck is something that is out of our control, so I don't think we put more importance to it over gambling skills and analysis.
Gambling with pure luck is the worst way of gambling IMO. I'd better have my own strategy, skills, analysis or whatever you call it to minimize the risk of losing on my bets which is far better than just depending in luck.
I have another interesting question. Does winning in sports betting because you did your research and analysis were considered luck?

Research and analysis is an estimate of the course of a match based on the travel history of each team. We get the information based on the research we conducted so that we can reach conclusions when choosing the team. But sometimes, the research and analysis we do can give different results, especially when there are surprise factors in the match that will also change the final result. But at least research and analysis can provide an overview of the condition of each team so that we can choose a team that has the potential to win. There may still be a luck factor in sports betting so that it can give us a win.

But if you gamble in luck-based gambling games, you don't need analysis and research because you gamble with the hope of getting lucky to win. But luck here will not always come to you, and only worthy people will get lucky and win the gambling game. So skill and luck are needed in gambling games.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2023, 11:13:56 AM

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

My pick is the same as the majority, which is luck. When you've placed enough bets, you'll realize how crucial luck can be, and that factor doesn't always come your way. Luck is that important because you can't gain it similarly to gambling skills, where you could spend enough time to reach a certain skill level. Skills are still a factor in a gambler's success, but overall, it won't get you that far in gambling when most types of gambling depend on luck, including the ones that require more skill than the rest.

of course that's true, but in my opinion skill and luck are equally important in carrying out these activities, although in gambling using skill alone is not enough to win so this still requires luck.
Indeed, skill is still the main factor in achieving success in gambling because at least with this, gamblers don't just place bets carelessly, with skill they can put pressure on themselves in order to hope for luck although it's not completely certain, but what is clear is that you have tried and the most important thing is remember, we can't use gambling to be successful, everything still depends on luck.

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