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Maybe I just had to pay TWICE for one order on the AE:

accBal was:

 987945 conf, 873090 unconf. before the trade.
 702845 conf, 302990 unconf. after the trade

conf Balance: 987945 -   702845 = 285100 = 1900*150 + 100(FEE) OK

unconf Balance: 873090 - 302990 = 570100 =   2*   1900*150 + 100(FEE) Huh

lets wait how the balance looks later when the conf==unconf -  - but how is it that the Trade hits the unconf Balance TWICE?!?!


Can anyone reproduce this or know anything about it Huh

Order was : 1900HIVE @ 150 (1.5nxt?) -> 2850
 

{'bidOrderId': '2084814903449362881', 'quantity': 1900, 'askOrderId': '12983022864822577544', 'timestamp': 8203706, 'price': 150}]


my bid order:
2084814903449362881

deadline - 10
timestamp - 8203691
recipient - 1739068987193023818
fee - 1
attachment - {'asset': '5738361901523075871', 'quantity': 1900, 'price': 150}
senderPublicKey - 5f7605dfd9ddba1c7843add87f2afc0b9edb1776ad9ae7c9cce18013fa892471
amount - 0
signature - 2e1444f7ff479b8a73cde8270afb88e12842ec22a6b4ff6633b479f3bcf1c206b48f41ddde79ba1 99ab0c4cdc7d0da7d4f9465df194a048d98065da599b784a9
referencedTransaction - 0
confirmations - 7
block - 15113600740772845724
subtype - 3
sender - 1738404304940813414
type - 2
 

l8orre, yes. this is what i was talking about yesterday. i have some diffs too which has to cleared quickly. we need a complete balance tracing
to ensure everything is working fine even under heavy load and multiple order/cancel scenarios. i would suggest we are doing a controlled and
coordinated test this weekend and unroll the order/cancel history after heavy trades back to ensure we have a clean match here.
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NXT is the future
The good news is I just got the first automated multisig successfully cross validated on all three servers and generated a properly signed transaction.

James

BAM!    Grin

jl777,

Those words are music to my eyes!  Thank you and KEEP IT COMING! 


legendary
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#Free market

well said NxtMinnow. came to the same conclusion. following ethereum also from beginning and there are some nice ideas but mostly as concept/ideas,
nxt is here and now, no reason to overestimate ethereum. Q4 2014 is planned to launch but i guess we won't see them before Q1 2015. ethereum is also
more gearing into financial api, mostly usefull for old school finance, therefore the big interest from this side but nxt is far more people/user orientated.
nxt will have all they want fully operational before they launch thier basic structure.


Speaking of, how is your client coming along?

working at the AE client atm. testing and balance tracing is going on but close to finish.
the apphub client needs to refactor, enabling a distributed applications approach. means
only the account handling is included make it max lightweigthed. alias and AM and some
additional tools are loadable modules on demand via a distributed application layer.


Did you want some TestNxt ?

legendary
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Dear God, reading these last 20 pages makes my head spin.  I understand why some are frustrated with ambiguity and lack of communication, but you need to relax and be proactive!  Much of the mystery from BCNext is attributed to the fact that he is still developing (programming) features.  It is his right to stay anonymous. We will have a committee for unreleased funds in a couple days.  I suggest that this committee also act on behalf of Nxt as our centralized "get shit done" group.  These members will be the face of Nxt.  I also suggest every committee member receive the option of 25k Nxt from unclaimed for their work.

In regards to a NXT "CTO" to continue development come April, my first suggestion would be JL (has anyone asked him?)  I also suggest we take CIYAM up on his offer (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5403299), I'm willing to invest BTC in this.  CFB has offered free help to create coin on top of Nxt, anyone who is thinking about this should contact him asap.

Zahlen, please reconsider a place on the Technical Committee, I think you are overestimating the time you will need and you will be a great asset.  

James, you are doing awesome work, please keep it up.

CFB, can we arrange a forging math algo audit?

{end of EvilDave style post}

PS, I have a Nxt crypto audit underway, more details to follow.
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well said NxtMinnow. came to the same conclusion. following ethereum also from beginning and there are some nice ideas but mostly as concept/ideas,
nxt is here and now, no reason to overestimate ethereum. Q4 2014 is planned to launch but i guess we won't see them before Q1 2015. ethereum is also
more gearing into financial api, mostly usefull for old school finance, therefore the big interest from this side but nxt is far more people/user orientated.
nxt will have all they want fully operational before they launch thier basic structure.


Speaking of, how is your client coming along?

working at the AE client atm. testing and balance tracing is going on but close to finish.
the apphub client needs to refactor, enabling a distributed applications approach. means
only the account handling is included make it max lightweigthed. alias and AM and some
additional tools are loadable modules on demand via a distributed application layer.
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Unlimited Free Crypto
Current source code (with comments) should be shared to a select group of people.

I am assuming the actual source has comments.

CFB, does it?

Very little.

This would be good usage of a bounty. Get a java programmer to go through line by line and function by function and add some comments.

Who writes a program, expects the community to vet it, implement it, write on top of it, etc and does not include some documentation? A sadist. That's who.

After reading Come-From-Beyond's comments today and all the confused (but very well intentioned) replies, I'm starting to think Emule is not so far off his rocker as we might think.

The clock is ticking and NXT has competition.

You know who already has instant transactions? Ripple.

I always hated documenting unside the code, Just make an SRS with apot of models and good description of API amd we sre golden.
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Current source code (with comments) should be shared to a select group of people.

I am assuming the actual source has comments.

CFB, does it?

Very little.

This would be good usage of a bounty. Get a java programmer to go through line by line and function by function and add some comments.

Who writes a program, expects the community to vet it, implement it, write on top of it, etc and does not include some documentation? A sadist. That's who.

After reading Come-From-Beyond's comments today and all the confused (but very well intentioned) replies, I'm starting to think Emule is not so far off his rocker as we might think.

The clock is ticking and NXT has competition.

You know who already has instant transactions? Ripple.
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Nxt-kit developer
is there any explanation step by step how laowai80 perform
to update nrs 0.7 to nrs 0.8 in VPS?

Check this.
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The good news is I just got the first automated multisig successfully cross validated on all three servers and generated a properly signed transaction.

James

BAM!    Grin

jl777,

Those words are music to my eyes!  Thank you and KEEP IT COMING! 


Yay - go James....
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I'll try again...

Would one solution be to have a sequence of nodes, where the next 'n' forging nodes are always known not necessarily in parallel but in close sequence, so node 1 identifies node 2 and node 2 identifies node 3 (based on 1 & 2), node 3 identifies 4 (based on 1,2,3), this would create a forging mesh within the network and clients could choose which node to send to based on latency and forging window. (mobile networks and phones do something like this all the time - yes I know about dropped calls its not perfect!)

The choice of node not just based on the current params but also its awareness of the network topography would mean a continual distribution of nodes resulting in statistically a node being close in latency and forging window to a client that wanted to transact...

Depending on the capacity required the nodes would seek an optimum connection with other nodes to achieve that capacity, also if the network can advertise its current processing capacity based on its current demand and ask for more nodes who might be sleeping because not needed before.

You don't have to deploy static network models like hub/spoke or regional or whatever...

Normally people think the a system is stronger than any one single part but what I read here is how for a moment one part has to stand out from all the rest and that makes it vulnerable.
legendary
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well said NxtMinnow. came to the same conclusion. following ethereum also from beginning and there are some nice ideas but mostly as concept/ideas,
nxt is here and now, no reason to overestimate ethereum. Q4 2014 is planned to launch but i guess we won't see them before Q1 2015. ethereum is also
more gearing into financial api, mostly usefull for old school finance, therefore the big interest from this side but nxt is far more people/user orientated.
nxt will have all they want fully operational before they launch thier basic structure.


Speaking of, how is your client coming along?
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Is multisignatures available  in the public api?
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Good morning from the West Coast NXT community,

First, great work on the tri-fold marketing brochure with special thanks to rickyjames, bitcoinpaul, w4llace, LiQio, EvilDave and especially mvag to create this great looking marketing material.

With regards to Auroracoin, the fact remains it is STILL a Proof of Work Clone and still suffers from the same geometrically increasing energy rate required to secure the network. The NXT Asset Exchange development has critical momentum; it is imperative this momentum is maintained.

The NXT cryptocurrency ecosystem is LIGHT YEARS ahead of ethereum.  I read through the ethereum forum last night and reviewed all of their problems attempting to implement their first basic clients, problems and delays and bad publicity at attempting to issue a $30 million "ether" IPO, and potentially running afoul of US SEC securities laws related to IPO issuance.

When I explain cryptocurrencies to my friends, one of the first questions is: will cryptocurrencies replace dollars, euros, etc?  My answer to them is always a resounding NO; all assets including cryptocurrencies, fiat, precious metals, land, etc will all continue to exist and be traded in parallel with the new cryptocurrencies through the NXT Asset Exchange.

HOWEVER, NXT is not just a cryptocurrency asset; but rather a powerful tool to enable transactions between all classes of assets and all groups of people.

So many people globally are locked out of the ability to conduct basic economic transactions, let alone complex transactions due to the expense resulting from the greed of the global banking cartel. The NXT ecosystem has the ability to free these underbanked and underserved people to finally join the world economic system free from the constraints of fractional reserve banking, capital controls, central banker greed, and computing arms races.

NXT is reaching critical mass.  It is true we need to organize, coordinate, keep calm and code on.  It is my vision that with the full implementation of the NXT Asset Exchange System, eventually all other energy unsustainable cryptocurrencies (All BTC and LTC clones) will be built on top of the NXT ecosystem as Proof of Work/Proof of Stake Coins.  The Proof of Stake NXT ecosystem provides the leanest, cheapest method to conduct secure cryptographic transactions and DATA GOES WHERE IT IS CHEAPEST!



well said NxtMinnow. came to the same conclusion. following ethereum also from beginning and there are some nice ideas but mostly as concept/ideas,
nxt is here and now, no reason to overestimate ethereum. Q4 2014 is planned to launch but i guess we won't see them before Q1 2015. ethereum is also
more gearing into financial api, mostly usefull for old school finance, therefore the big interest from this side but nxt is far more people/user orientated.
nxt will have all they want fully operational before they launch thier basic structure.
member
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The good news is I just got the first automated multisig successfully cross validated on all three servers and generated a properly signed transaction.

James

BAM!    Grin

jl777,

Those words are music to my eyes!  Thank you and KEEP IT COMING! 
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
My thought was to use my public node as online wallet for my account and connect to it from outside world. Keylogger fucks things independently, it is private or public node. Another question is: is there a difference to forge on private or public node? Or it is no difference?

Don't use "http" to access your node from *outside your home* - it is not secure to do that.
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is there any explanation step by step how laowai80 performed
to update nrs 0.7 to nrs 0.8 on a VPS?
legendary
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This public node resides in stick in my TV, behind the router with static IP and forwarded ports 7874 and 7875 to the stick home LAN ip.

If you're using a direct or secured WiFi connection to the router only from *inside* your home then you should be okay (depending upon your level of paranoia) but of course there could always be keylogger's or the like which "https" isn't going to help you from anyway.


My thought was to use my public node as online wallet for my account and connect to it from outside world. Keylogger fucks things independently, it is private or public node. Another question is: is there a difference to forge on private or public node? Or it is no difference?
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
What is the advantage of limiting the block size to 255 txs?

Am pretty sure the current limit is actually 250 - but that would not be expected to stay down the track (think of it as being currently "in beta").
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
may be this?

Instant transactions will be implemented after the Messaging feature.  That is how it will work:
1]  You publish on the blockchain a message saying that your account becomes a special account.
2]  You use the account for instant transactions.
3]  At some point you decide to empty the account, so you publish a message saying that the account becomes an ordinary one.
4]  Now you can't use instant transactions and have to wait for 1440 blocks (~24 hours) to withdraw all the coins.

Aha - yes I do recall about this now that you mention it although I don't recall the exact details of how this is supposed to work.

There may still be the problem of a "race condition" although I think the idea was that you had to have something like "double the amount" of balance in case you try to spend twice (but for sure something much safer for a retailer that doesn't have time to wait for confirmations).

Double spends are actually a very different creature in Nxt because it doesn't use UTXOs.
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What is the advantage of limiting the block size to 255 txs?

I know increasing block size won't increase convenience, but what is the possible limit?
Is it limited by computing power by the forging node?
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