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legendary
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December 20, 2022, 06:10:13 PM
Unfortunately, it looks like Davis will miss most of the regular season games once again, and this has happened to him for the 3rd season in a row.

I tried to research it but there is still no official report yet concerning Anthony Davis's injury. It is just a hint from Brian Windhorst. Will keep a positive outlook until the official reports come in. But if Davis is really out longer than one month, that will really hurt the Lakers' chance to even get illegible for the play-in. The surge of win they had lately was on the back of a great performance coming from Anthony Davis. It will be hard to fill that up with the roster the Lakers have right now. We may see a losing skid against from the Lakers.

I was totally shocked to find when I was looking at NBA 2022-2023 Team Payrolls and saw that San Antonio's Team Payroll is half of GSW total team payroll.  When I look at the standings in the West it's like SA isn't all that far from where GS is in the playoff hunt.   I know GSW will make the playoffs somehow this year but the team salary difference is crazy.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/

San Antonio is a rebuilding team; they do not have expectations this year and the salary is just proportional to a rebuilding team. The Golden State Warriors superstars alone will already match the salary of the San Antonio Spurs. They are a stacked team having a slow start. I do not expect the Warriors to be in this slump for too long. We may see them get back on the ranking next year. Warrior's income last year is almost a billion dollars. They can afford to pay their players + luxury tax, which come with a very high expectation.
legendary
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December 20, 2022, 04:12:12 PM
I was totally shocked to find when I was looking at NBA 2022-2023 Team Payrolls and saw that San Antonio's Team Payroll is half of GSW total team payroll.  When I look at the standings in the West it's like SA isn't all that far from where GS is in the playoff hunt.   I know GSW will make the playoffs somehow this year but the team salary difference is crazy.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/

That's what happens when ypu have multiple homegrown players that became superstars.  These teams can offer them more money and tend to keep them.  The Spurs got rid of anyone they would have offered max contracts too.  Usually to open up cap space to get good young guys on the squad then offer a couple big contracts to lure free agents.
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December 20, 2022, 03:50:52 PM
A couple of well matched up games happening tonight on nation TV.  The crew at TNT will be watching the Steph-less Warriors take on the Knicks.  Seems crazy that the Knicks are such favorites, even with Steph out, but they've been winning a lot this year, surprisingly.  Then the Grizzlies and the Nuggets...  You don't get to see Ja very much on national TV so I am expecting some highlights.  Jokic should put on the usual MVP performance as well.  If I were to guess...  I'd say the Knicks and Nuggets win tonight.  Both games should be close though.

Very hard to predict this games, yes Steph is not playing, and playing away from their home, and they are a aweful road team right now. And probably the Knicks will win, but it could be a very close game. Similar to the Nuggets vs Memphis game, Jokic is putting MVP numbers but Murray should step up in this game. He is very inconsistent and if not for Jokic, they could have lost close games too. So I wouldn't be surprised though if the Memphis still one from Nuggets home court with -1.5.

Like you, I see both games will be close and even without Curry, if Warriors players will play as one, the chance to win is possible
we already witness them winning without Curry as Poole stepup and cover his numbers.

I don't expect that to happen again, but in the back of my mind I'm thinking that he will try to do it again, plus the help of
Green and Thompson, the chance of surviving is still for the Warriors.

Nothing I can say with Nuggets and Memphis. Both are unpredictable teams, they can explode or they can also have off-night.
newbie
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December 20, 2022, 02:09:55 PM
I was totally shocked to find when I was looking at NBA 2022-2023 Team Payrolls and saw that San Antonio's Team Payroll is half of GSW total team payroll.  When I look at the standings in the West it's like SA isn't all that far from where GS is in the playoff hunt.   I know GSW will make the playoffs somehow this year but the team salary difference is crazy.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/
legendary
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December 20, 2022, 02:00:19 PM
For me he isn't, or should I say his main goal isn't getting a triple double every game but, that's just how he plays right now. I mean he can do everything. He can rebound, he can be a passer and he can be a shooter as well though he is very awful on that aspect considering how much he's being paid right now.

Lakers are doing well compared to their first 10 games. Their chemistry is being built slowly. Coach Ham is slowly becoming a better coach right now and he utilizes his other players like Reeves, Walker and Schroeder. The problem right now is Davis being out for a month again. After him being the most dominant player to now getting injured again.

We know how impactful he is and how much he improved compared to last year. Now injuries are coming to him again and ruining his whole season. One month of him being out is a huge disaster to the Lakers already. Him playing and they are at the 12th spot still. How will the Lakers perform with him out for a month?
He can't really be a shooter, we have seen him shoot last year and at the start of this year and we can easily say that he is not a shooter at all, dude sucks at shooting. However, we can say that he is great at running very fast and disrupting defences, and during this era being able to disrupt the defence is all that matters.

What he gives to the team is the fact that when other teams defence is trying to recover, he can pass and the person who gets it could catch the other team off-guard and either score or get fouled. They have done this a lot now, and it's working and with second unit. On first unit they have Lebron, and westbrook is not an off-ball runner, so he just waits and watches Lebron and that didn't work obviously.
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December 20, 2022, 01:54:53 PM
A couple of well matched up games happening tonight on nation TV.  The crew at TNT will be watching the Steph-less Warriors take on the Knicks.  Seems crazy that the Knicks are such favorites, even with Steph out, but they've been winning a lot this year, surprisingly.  Then the Grizzlies and the Nuggets...  You don't get to see Ja very much on national TV so I am expecting some highlights.  Jokic should put on the usual MVP performance as well.  If I were to guess...  I'd say the Knicks and Nuggets win tonight.  Both games should be close though.

Very hard to predict this games, yes Steph is not playing, and playing away from their home, and they are a aweful road team right now. And probably the Knicks will win, but it could be a very close game. Similar to the Nuggets vs Memphis game, Jokic is putting MVP numbers but Murray should step up in this game. He is very inconsistent and if not for Jokic, they could have lost close games too. So I wouldn't be surprised though if the Memphis still one from Nuggets home court with -1.5.
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December 20, 2022, 01:27:26 PM
A couple of well matched up games happening tonight on nation TV.  The crew at TNT will be watching the Steph-less Warriors take on the Knicks.  Seems crazy that the Knicks are such favorites, even with Steph out, but they've been winning a lot this year, surprisingly.  Then the Grizzlies and the Nuggets...  You don't get to see Ja very much on national TV so I am expecting some highlights.  Jokic should put on the usual MVP performance as well.  If I were to guess...  I'd say the Knicks and Nuggets win tonight.  Both games should be close though.
newbie
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December 20, 2022, 12:44:19 PM
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Can Jordan Poole repeat what he did against the Raptors or will this just be another game to give up without Steph Curry around?
I want to see a new face stepping up his game, maybe Moody, Lamb, or Kuminga. Just to fill the missing piece while their injured players are resting.
Jordan Poole is very talented but Curry is a legend who can do it night in and night out.  It takes years to get to that level.
40+ night in and night out is tough to pull off even with the likes of Curry or any other legends. Jordan Poole is already doing 20 to 30 a night and has been consistent with that range lately.
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It's one thing to be the 3rd option and get your shots in but when teams are game planning for you it's a whole different level which is why you need the superstar guys who can do it when other teams game plan to stop them.
Right but we already know the GSW system doesn't just rely on too many ISO plays. They are pretty good at ball distribution and setting up screens which allows many opportunities for open shots so any defensive plays aimed at stopping just one player like Poole isn't really going to work long-term.

That's right, you're not wrong at all. As long as a player can successfully take responsibility for himself in the absence of Stephen Curry, then I do not think there is a problem so long as he is able to do so successfully. In fact, I am looking forward to seeing the Warriors play their next game. Specifically, I would like to see if Poole can actually perform as well as he did in the last game or if someone else needs to take on that responsibility.
as long as Klay stays healthy they will be fine.  with him in the lineup they can't just key on Poole.   However the Knicks are no longer the win you can just mark off.  I know the Lakers now kicking themselves for letting Julius Randle go he has been a a monster lately.  I actually think had the lakers kept that core group they would have a better record than they do now.
Of course everyone needs to be healthy, but he also has to contribute more since Steph is sideline. And you said rely to Poole only? he needs to put up numbers that he should be putting not just like 18 ppg, he needs to produce more as the second offensive option for the Warriors.

I also disagree that the Lakers are kicking themselves of letting Julius Randle go because at that time they really don't know how he will blossom. Same with Jordan Clarkson and Ball and others that they traded to get Lebron. On the handed, it's a win for them as they were able to win a ring with Lebron.
ok i can give you the point on lakers kicking themselves.  they did get a ring and if they didn't take Lebron clippers would have gotten him since he was determined to get to LA.  The only thing is once Lebron retires which will be soon Lakers are going to not see the playoffs for a while.
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December 20, 2022, 12:32:40 PM
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Can Jordan Poole repeat what he did against the Raptors or will this just be another game to give up without Steph Curry around?
I want to see a new face stepping up his game, maybe Moody, Lamb, or Kuminga. Just to fill the missing piece while their injured players are resting.
Jordan Poole is very talented but Curry is a legend who can do it night in and night out.  It takes years to get to that level.
40+ night in and night out is tough to pull off even with the likes of Curry or any other legends. Jordan Poole is already doing 20 to 30 a night and has been consistent with that range lately.
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It's one thing to be the 3rd option and get your shots in but when teams are game planning for you it's a whole different level which is why you need the superstar guys who can do it when other teams game plan to stop them.
Right but we already know the GSW system doesn't just rely on too many ISO plays. They are pretty good at ball distribution and setting up screens which allows many opportunities for open shots so any defensive plays aimed at stopping just one player like Poole isn't really going to work long-term.

That's right, you're not wrong at all. As long as a player can successfully take responsibility for himself in the absence of Stephen Curry, then I do not think there is a problem so long as he is able to do so successfully. In fact, I am looking forward to seeing the Warriors play their next game. Specifically, I would like to see if Poole can actually perform as well as he did in the last game or if someone else needs to take on that responsibility.
as long as Klay stays healthy they will be fine.  with him in the lineup they can't just key on Poole.   However the Knicks are no longer the win you can just mark off.  I know the Lakers now kicking themselves for letting Julius Randle go he has been a a monster lately.  I actually think had the lakers kept that core group they would have a better record than they do now.
Of course everyone needs to be healthy, but he also has to contribute more since Steph is sideline. And you said rely to Poole only? he needs to put up numbers that he should be putting not just like 18 ppg, he needs to produce more as the second offensive option for the Warriors.

I also disagree that the Lakers are kicking themselves of letting Julius Randle go because at that time they really don't know how he will blossom. Same with Jordan Clarkson and Ball and others that they traded to get Lebron. On the handed, it's a win for them as they were able to win a ring with Lebron.
legendary
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December 20, 2022, 12:28:03 PM
Woowee it has been one heck of a rough year for the Chicago Bulls.  I watched a really good video yesterday which broke down the current state of the Chicago Bulls and gave a few suggestions/ideas of where they might want to head from this point- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdbKmmvsucI .

As a die hard bulls fan, without a mega-star, we don't have a chance. Period.  I'm a realist, and I realize though Lavine, DeRozan, Vucevic are good players, maybe even great..but not great enough.  Also with no Ball, they've got no chance.  In my opinion it's time to do some restructuring. 

I say the Bulls move DeRozan and try and move Vucevic as well.  They need more young talent to build upon while they try and find that mega-star (which is almost impossible, I'm certainly aware of).
actually i think the Bulls should try to get Derrick Rose back and let him retire as a Bull.  Lonzo isn't going to be coming back any time soon if at all since he is still having knee troubles.  Based on the reception he got vs. the Knicks I really wish they would do that.

I think that would be fun in terms of a cool thing for Derrick and the organization and fans, but that's really all that it is, more of a marketing ploy rather than doing what they need to be doing and that is acquiring players that are going to help move this team closer to a potential championship.

Yeah unfortunately it looks almost like a complete certainty that Lonzo is not coming back this season.  I have no idea what the hell takes over a year like that to recover from.  That whole situation is an absolute mess.   
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December 20, 2022, 11:43:19 AM
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Can Jordan Poole repeat what he did against the Raptors or will this just be another game to give up without Steph Curry around?
I want to see a new face stepping up his game, maybe Moody, Lamb, or Kuminga. Just to fill the missing piece while their injured players are resting.
Jordan Poole is very talented but Curry is a legend who can do it night in and night out.  It takes years to get to that level.
40+ night in and night out is tough to pull off even with the likes of Curry or any other legends. Jordan Poole is already doing 20 to 30 a night and has been consistent with that range lately.
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It's one thing to be the 3rd option and get your shots in but when teams are game planning for you it's a whole different level which is why you need the superstar guys who can do it when other teams game plan to stop them.
Right but we already know the GSW system doesn't just rely on too many ISO plays. They are pretty good at ball distribution and setting up screens which allows many opportunities for open shots so any defensive plays aimed at stopping just one player like Poole isn't really going to work long-term.

That's right, you're not wrong at all. As long as a player can successfully take responsibility for himself in the absence of Stephen Curry, then I do not think there is a problem so long as he is able to do so successfully. In fact, I am looking forward to seeing the Warriors play their next game. Specifically, I would like to see if Poole can actually perform as well as he did in the last game or if someone else needs to take on that responsibility.
as long as Klay stays healthy they will be fine.  with him in the lineup they can't just key on Poole.   However the Knicks are no longer the win you can just mark off.  I know the Lakers now kicking themselves for letting Julius Randle go he has been a a monster lately.  I actually think had the lakers kept that core group they would have a better record than they do now.
legendary
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December 20, 2022, 11:29:34 AM
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Can Jordan Poole repeat what he did against the Raptors or will this just be another game to give up without Steph Curry around?
I want to see a new face stepping up his game, maybe Moody, Lamb, or Kuminga. Just to fill the missing piece while their injured players are resting.
Jordan Poole is very talented but Curry is a legend who can do it night in and night out.  It takes years to get to that level.
40+ night in and night out is tough to pull off even with the likes of Curry or any other legends. Jordan Poole is already doing 20 to 30 a night and has been consistent with that range lately.
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It's one thing to be the 3rd option and get your shots in but when teams are game planning for you it's a whole different level which is why you need the superstar guys who can do it when other teams game plan to stop them.
Right but we already know the GSW system doesn't just rely on too many ISO plays. They are pretty good at ball distribution and setting up screens which allows many opportunities for open shots so any defensive plays aimed at stopping just one player like Poole isn't really going to work long-term.

That's right, you're not wrong at all. As long as a player can successfully take responsibility for himself in the absence of Stephen Curry, then I do not think there is a problem so long as he is able to do so successfully. In fact, I am looking forward to seeing the Warriors play their next game. Specifically, I would like to see if Poole can actually perform as well as he did in the last game or if someone else needs to take on that responsibility.
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December 20, 2022, 10:40:57 AM
.... they are now ruled like a technical foul where the player will shoot free throw and get possession.
One of the approved rules in the NBA that actually makes sense. I'm glad they made changes and add a harsher penalty because the old one was just unfair. I wish they apply it to the whole period of the game and completely remove that "last two minute exception" which allows a take foul without a free throw penalty.
legendary
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December 20, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Just want to update everyone in case you are asking yourself what the heck happened.
Why is he making a free-throw like a technical foul was called?
One of them is the "take-foul" call.
Recently one has happened and it got me questioning what really happened so I looked into the replay. I know the take foul as a "foul" which a player does to avoid a fast break(1) or if proven as clear path (2), they are now ruled like a technical foul where the player will shoot free throw and get possession.
But it stretches to the transition plays like this one that happened between the Cavs vs the Jazz.

5 Cavs players were actually down the other half of the court and LeVert fouled Markkanen intentionally, the reason may be to stop the play to happen while the defense is not yet set which is the reason why transition plays happens. To avoid the defense to set and the offense attacking while they are scrambled.

Just sharing some info. I hope it's helpful.
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December 20, 2022, 10:06:57 AM
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Can Jordan Poole repeat what he did against the Raptors or will this just be another game to give up without Steph Curry around?
I want to see a new face stepping up his game, maybe Moody, Lamb, or Kuminga. Just to fill the missing piece while their injured players are resting.
Jordan Poole is very talented but Curry is a legend who can do it night in and night out.  It takes years to get to that level.
40+ night in and night out is tough to pull off even with the likes of Curry or any other legends. Jordan Poole is already doing 20 to 30 a night and has been consistent with that range lately.

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It's one thing to be the 3rd option and get your shots in but when teams are game planning for you it's a whole different level which is why you need the superstar guys who can do it when other teams game plan to stop them.
Right but we already know the GSW system doesn't just rely on too many ISO plays. They are pretty good at ball distribution and setting up screens which allows many opportunities for open shots so any defensive plays aimed at stopping just one player like Poole isn't really going to work long-term.
legendary
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December 20, 2022, 09:50:54 AM

I think scoring isn't Westbrook's strong suit. Nevertheless, his ability to grab a lot of rebounds and make a lot of assists can be very useful for the Lakers, but only in those moments when Russ makes the minimum number of turnovers per game. As for Davis' absence, Thomas Bryant might partially replace him if he continues to perform as well as he did in the previous game against the Nuggets.

Strongest suit turnover, just kidding sorry for all Westbrick fans in here but I really don't see Russell Westbrick getting back to his prime and he will be the one that will get the Lakers to the top of the playoffs because that will surely go to Anthony Davis and Lebron James, but right now as Anthony Davis got an injury and n December 19, right now Austin Reaves, Russell Westbrick and LeBron James all injured and can not play, pretty much the Lakers right now got a huge problem, right now on the Lakers latest game I was amazed at Dennis Schroder taking up the role but it was not enough,


What kind of consistency are you looking for? Like 40+ a game? There's only a handful of players who can do that hehe. He seems the type of player that excels when he's given more chance or time with the ball so it's up to the coach to take advantage of that. Hard to come up with big numbers when he's not the main guy task with most of the scoring.

Poole has been pretty decent this month actually.

You are right, we can not always be hopeful for Poole to provide some game-changing points in every game, but right now Draymond Green also step up to the occasion aswell and gave 17 points in their latest game to win, and I think if not Jordan Poole there are Klay Thompson that could fire up in a game or two, you can never know if Klay Thompson could be effective in a game or not, but at least Jordan Poole and the rest is stepping up in Stephen Curry and Andrew Wiggins absence,

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December 20, 2022, 09:47:28 AM
The NBA nowadays is becoming more and more competitive and I love it. Underdogs nowadays like the Utah Jazz are not that easy to beat as they are still fighting for a top 8 spot. Upsets are normal though, especially in these regular games and it is still early season. The real games will be in the playoffs where defense is more serious and there is no relaxing until someone has a clear blowout lead.   

As for my betting, it was the right decision to stay lie-low. Next year it will be interesting to track the top teams that are still out of the top 8 as they will play more seriously in order to proceed into the playoffs. Dallas Mavericks, for instance, I don't think they won't be able to play in the playoffs.
NBA taking a new measures as every team is getting serious with their performance inother to qualify with the best position. We usually experience big teams humilates the mediocre ones but it's getting rare these days to watch big clubs take advantage of the weak teams, its kind of interesting to watch both draw tie, rather the big teams will struggle to come out victorious or with a narrow win in the game. For instance, the underdogs are probably one of the team one wouldn't want to face in a game.
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December 20, 2022, 09:39:52 AM
Warriors game later, like what Reggie Miller said, everywhere they go it's called the Warriors game, not the Knicks game in MSG or Lakers game in Crypto.com Arena. It's always going to be the Warriors game if they are up against them.
Now the big question. Can Jordan Poole repeat what he did against the Raptors or will this just be another game to give up without Steph Curry around?
I want to see a new face stepping up his game, maybe Moody, Lamb, or Kuminga. Just to fill the missing piece while their injured players are resting.
Jordan Poole is very talented but Curry is a legend who can do it night in and night out.  It takes years to get to that level.  It's one thing to be the 3rd option and get your shots in but when teams are game planning for you it's a whole different level which is why you need the superstar guys who can do it when other teams game plan to stop them. Any NBA level player can have a hot night but to do it every night is going to be hard.  Perhaps the best way for GS to pull it off is to have guys rotate and step up when teams key on Poole.
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December 20, 2022, 09:35:39 AM
Warriors game later, like what Reggie Miller said, everywhere they go it's called the Warriors game, not the Knicks game in MSG or Lakers game in Crypto.com Arena. It's always going to be the Warriors game if they are up against them.
Now the big question. Can Jordan Poole repeat what he did against the Raptors or will this just be another game to give up without Steph Curry around?
I want to see a new face stepping up his game, maybe Moody, Lamb, or Kuminga. Just to fill the missing piece while their injured players are resting.
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December 20, 2022, 09:34:00 AM
In today's NBA, you can't expect the supposed dominating teams to have always smooth wins against the underdogs.

I agree with this statement. That is why we see underdogs upset the favorites. Every team in the NBA can beat a top team given the right circumstance.

The NBA nowadays is becoming more and more competitive and I love it. Underdogs nowadays like the Utah Jazz are not that easy to beat as they are still fighting for a top 8 spot. Upsets are normal though, especially in these regular games and it is still early season. The real games will be in the playoffs where defense is more serious and there is no relaxing until someone has a clear blowout lead.   

As for my betting, it was the right decision to stay lie-low. Next year it will be interesting to track the top teams that are still out of the top 8 as they will play more seriously in order to proceed into the playoffs. Dallas Mavericks, for instance, I don't think they won't be able to play in the playoffs.
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