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Quote from: OgNasty on December 23, 2022, 02:01:00 PM

Interesting rumor that Zach LaVine is trying to force his way out of Chicago and into a contract with the Lakers. I honestly don't see how this would work out with a trade, but it's fun to speculate about. The crazy thing is that DeRozan wants to be a Laker also. With the Lakers not having much to offer but Anthony Davis, it seems unlikely that a swap for LaVine would work and this is interesting because the Lakers have been trying to get DeRozan with a trade, and now the Bulls have 2 guys that want to play for the Lakers... This is going to be one rumor filled trading window.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-rumors-zach-lavine-is-forcing-his-way-to-the-lakers/ar-AA15BD0a

Yeah, read that rumors as well, I was really surprised that Lavine wanted out of the Bulls, since he was being made to be the face of the franchise. But it looks like he was frustrated on how the teams are turning specially last season when they got DeRozan because they expecting that they will make a final push.

They do good in the beginning, but when injuries keeps piling up, barely made it to the playoff last year and then exited on the first round.

And this season, it's worst for them.

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Interesting rumor that Zach LaVine is trying to force his way out of Chicago and into a contract with the Lakers. I honestly don't see how this would work out with a trade, but it's fun to speculate about. The crazy thing is that DeRozan wants to be a Laker also. With the Lakers not having much to offer but Anthony Davis, it seems unlikely that a swap for LaVine would work and this is interesting because the Lakers have been trying to get DeRozan with a trade, and now the Bulls have 2 guys that want to play for the Lakers... This is going to be one rumor filled trading window.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-rumors-zach-lavine-is-forcing-his-way-to-the-lakers/ar-AA15BD0a

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Concluding that Boston Celtics have a serious problem because of that losing streak is a big slap for those teams who beat them.

Orlando Magic beats the Boston Celtics in a close game twice in a row. Might be surprising to others as the Celtics are currently sitting at the top spot while Magic is in the bottom spot but instead of talking about related to the Celtics, we should instead talk about the performance of Orlando Magic in those 2 games where they were able to make an upset win.

Still, in a series match, the Celtics will own the Magic. Season games playing levels can't be compared when it comes to playoff games, especially for experienced teams that always get a playoff spot every year.

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Banking on Lebron to carry you the whole way moving forward is a big ask. AD was brought to be the lead dog to help reserve Lebron for the playoffs but AD's body can't be depended on at all for what it's worth. I checked and Lebron has played in about 1388 games in his career. The average player runs 2.8 miles in a game so Lebron has something like 3886 miles of running on his body. He is above average when it comes to taking care of himself and has the funds to have top of line care... but he is human.

Both of them have reliable before but things have changed, AD is more prone to injuries although he's really a monster when he's healthy. For Bron, he's not getting younger anymore and other players couldn't really on him anymore they have to assist them with his leadership, I guess that's what they're banking on. And it's likely that Bron won't retire even if many are telling him he's already aged because he said he wants to play with his two sons in the official season/league.

Definitely LeBron won't retire until he sees his 2 sons in the NBA. Bronny just turned 18 and Bryce is 15, LeBron could stay in the league until his 41 or 42. These are the range of age where Mutombo and Kareem retired. LeBron hasn't showed an obvious sign that he's washed it, so he's probably going to be fine until early 40's.
While AD on the other side, he might start to miss more games because of this injury again. The fans aren't surprised anymore. This is where we realize that Durability is something that is very important especially when you're a superstar.

It is just too unfortunate for Davis for being a prone to injury kind of player. His height and skills will surely benefit any team that will get him signed, but what's the use of those talents if the user is not available at all times.

True, and he is not that old though, but his body is really prone from simply to career threatening injuries. It's really hard to avoid because he was really tall and his body might not able to handle the exhausted kind of games that is it being played right now. At least though, he has won a ring already and that is huge for Davis career.

Quote from: stadus on December 22, 2022, 12:53:14 PM

And for LeBron's legacy, we will see it in the near future if LeBron James can do that and figure out some things that will make him relevant, moreover, it's obvious that there will be teams in the league that will cater their needs and to be part of the history because it's rare to see a father and son duo, what more if there's three James wearing the same jersey. I've looked it up on the internet, it says that Bronny James is eligible to play and get drafted in 2024.

We can say different to Lebron though, he has work very hard spend million to protect his assets - his body that's why he was able to stay and sustained the games for so long, season 20 for him? no problem. He can still run and give us highlight reel dunks from time to time.

Yes, it's his own build that is giving him some problems up until this day, so even though we can say that it is his assets, it's also his weakness. He can always come back strong but sad to say that his time in the court will be very limited as it's like his injuries are already scheduled and stacked. Well, yes, at least he already got a ring.

Lebron on the other hand is built differently, he is quite wise enough to invest in his body as he knows that it will be his asset in the future. Millions and millions were spent to keep his body up to shape including his diet that is prepared by his personal chef. Not surprised that he is already a billionaire this year.

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The decline in Boston Celtics surprises me. Lost to Orlando in two games in a row. It was surprising to me that he was defeated in his own field. In last night's game, he lost to the Indiana Pacers at home this time and dropped to second place in the eastern conference. The out-of-form Orlando defeats in particular are staggering. I hope it gets better soon because my championship favorite is Boston. Los Angeles Lakers lost 134-120 to Sacramento in the same away game.

1-4 in their last 5 games. So yeah, definitely something is wrong with the system that they have built, and most of their loses in that span comes from a bad team and in their home court, so that is bad already.

Just like against the Pacers, they were down 20 points in the first quarter alone. And they try to do catch up, but Pacers remains tough in the game even if their lead is going down specially in the 4th. Don't know what kind of adjustments they have to make right now, but they need a quick fix and stop the bleeding.

What surprises me the most was their defeat against the Orlando Magic in a back-to-back game, I wasn't expecting that to happen especially after the fact that the Magic do only have .400 below pct. and is tanking too. Well, I'd say that let's just give the Celtics some time and room to adjust if they are indeed having some difficulties inside, needless to say, they will be back much more stronger.

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Celtics are doing fine, it's okay to have losing streaks time to time, allows players to get out of that mindset of everything is guaranteed. If you keep winning all season, the players wouldn't know what to do when they are losing, so you need to have some losses here and there in order to make them realize even they could lose, no matter how good they were before, they are in a loss streak now and need to learn how to rebound from there and be better again.

This would allow them to seize chances and come back better during playoffs if it ever happens. They fought hard last year at finals, warriors is not going to be there this time around, they need to be ready for another chance.

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Back to Bulls drama as LaVine wants to leave as quick as possible and tensions on the Bulls squad are heating up very fast in the last 3 days and I do hope the management will find a way to make the players focusing on play-offs and let the drama out of the court when they play basketball but it will be hard as fans are not happy at all. Sad

He wants to be a Laker. But what does the Lakers have to offer for the trade with the Bulls? Nothing. Trade AD? That's suicide. If they do so, then it's just trading both players who are injury prone. I'd rather stick with AD who proved he can win games when he is healthy.

I also do not see AD getting traded, he is actually the most important Laker at the moment when healthy. It could be that the Chicago Bulls will be in rebuilding mode if LaVine is out. So the Bulls can receive Westbrook but of course, the remaining future first-round draft picks of the Lakers will be included, something the Lakers are reluctant to give up this year. But maybe the Lakers are willing to give up its future first-round draft picks for the caliber of LaVine. And the star is only 27-year-old which guarantees the Lakers a minimum of 2 superstars once Lebron is done. But all of these can only be possible if the Bulls agree to rebuild.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 22, 2022, 05:45:22 PM

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True, it's not guarantee that you will get the 1st pick if you even try to tank for this season and think that you will be the first one to select next season's pick, it's not the way the NBA works

The expected 1st Round draft pick rookie might be a game-changer for those teams that will tank this season but since the NBA lottery does not work the way where the worst team will automatically get the first pick, still we can assure you that those tank teams will get at least the Top 5.

But honesty, it's hard to tank even intentionally. These worst teams should just enjoy the game and let their players just do their best in every game. Look at the Utah Jazz during their first several games. They expected to tank this season but some of their players were able to step up.

I agree, the team will definitely not improve if they are just aiming to get the NBA Lottery in the next draft where their chances to get the 1st-round pick is not really guaranteed. It's much better for the team and for the rest of the roster to play harder while they still can to get more experience because either way, their team will be tanking in the end. At least when the season ends, they got something.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on December 23, 2022, 07:41:55 AM

Chances of those people losing their bets for the Celtics might be part of that hate. Cheesy

That actually makes sense and might play a big role in why these people are frustrated. Cheesy

Kidding aside........

But honestly, on pre-game betting, Celtics Moneyline odds on that game is not even worth placing a bet on.

Maybe these bettors were being destroyed by the Celtics' handicap since they are expecting this team to bounce back after losing against the Magic last 17th before losing again on the 19th. 2 games losing streak against the Magic becomes a nightmare for those who backed up a bet for the Celtics.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 22, 2022, 05:45:22 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on December 22, 2022, 04:59:10 PM

True, it's not guarantee that you will get the 1st pick if you even try to tank for this season and think that you will be the first one to select next season's pick, it's not the way the NBA works

The expected 1st Round draft pick rookie might be a game-changer for those teams that will tank this season but since the NBA lottery does not work the way where the worst team will automatically get the first pick, still we can assure you that those tank teams will get at least the Top 5.

But honesty, it's hard to tank even intentionally. These worst teams should just enjoy the game and let their players just do their best in every game. Look at the Utah Jazz during their first several games. They expected to tank this season but some of their players were able to step up.

I like GSW but not fanatic about them but out of all the teams I think if Wembanyama went to GSW that would be the best fit for him. Market wise if Wembanyama went to Lakers or Knicks that would be ideal for the NBA>

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Quote from: boltz on December 23, 2022, 08:22:04 AM

This season of NBA is just getting better and better right ? Pelicans finally woke up and got a win after 4 defeats in a row and that was a bit of karma right ? I mean , just stay humble , play your game , score points and let the stats speak for yourself instead of just showing off ( refer to Zion making that 180 wind mill dunk ).

They're at home that time, it's okay to do that. Its just other players are too dramatic about their own rules which is not even in the books.
If you are free to dunk and no is doing defense, then do so. The defense job is to keep you away from doing that, no D means it's a freebie.
It's not karma, it's called getting exhausted from shouldering the Pelicans offense while Ingram is out.

Quote from: boltz on December 23, 2022, 08:22:04 AM

Back to Bulls drama as LaVine wants to leave as quick as possible and tensions on the Bulls squad are heating up very fast in the last 3 days and I do hope the management will find a way to make the players focusing on play-offs and let the drama out of the court when they play basketball but it will be hard as fans are not happy at all. Sad

He wants to be a Laker. But what does the Lakers have to offer for the trade with the Bulls? Nothing. Trade AD? That's suicide. If they do so, then it's just trading both players who are injury prone. I'd rather stick with AD who proved he can win games when he is healthy.

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Quote from: boltz on December 23, 2022, 08:22:04 AM

This season of NBA is just getting better and better right ? Pelicans finally woke up and got a win after 4 defeats in a row and that was a bit of karma right ? I mean , just stay humble , play your game , score points and let the stats speak for yourself instead of just showing off ( refer to Zion making that 180 wind mill dunk ).

Back to Bulls drama as LaVine wants to leave as quick as possible and tensions on the Bulls squad are heating up very fast in the last 3 days and I do hope the management will find a way to make the players focusing on play-offs and let the drama out of the court when they play basketball but it will be hard as fans are not happy at all. Sad

Now I can see the reason why the Bulls are struggling. They have a good lineup on paper but with this problem inside, it will definitely affect their chemistry as one of the star players are already wanting to leave the team. Well, if he wants to leave, that would not be easy, unless he will get traded which will not happen soon.

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This season of NBA is just getting better and better right ? Pelicans finally woke up and got a win after 4 defeats in a row and that was a bit of karma right ? I mean , just stay humble , play your game , score points and let the stats speak for yourself instead of just showing off ( refer to Zion making that 180 wind mill dunk ).

Back to Bulls drama as LaVine wants to leave as quick as possible and tensions on the Bulls squad are heating up very fast in the last 3 days and I do hope the management will find a way to make the players focusing on play-offs and let the drama out of the court when they play basketball but it will be hard as fans are not happy at all. Sad

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 23, 2022, 05:11:15 AM

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What made this issue about them is losing versus an average team like the Orlando Magic.

Can these people treat that loss against Magic as just another usual day in the office for the Boston Celtics?

Chances of those people losing their bets for the Celtics might be part of that hate. Cheesy

I mean, they are on a good streak with wins that really cover the spread for a week or two, so they are expected to do the same against weaker teams without even a single shred of doubt.
They didn't even consider Tatum only missing one game in all those back to backs and long travels. He must be damned exhausted unlike other stars who always take their rest in such events.

Quote from: agustina2 on December 23, 2022, 05:11:15 AM

Even if Orland Magic is sitting at the bottom of the Eastern Conference standings, it doesn't mean they don't have the capability to upset some teams above.

This season, Orlando Magic already upsets some of the big teams that have a Superstar and All-Star level of players like Phoenix Suns, Los Angeles Clippers, Golden State Warriors, and Dallas Mavericks. Some of their winnings to aren't being played with the NBA's 2022 Top 1 Rookie Pick this season, Paolo Banchero.

That's right, Banchero, Bol Bol, the Wagner brothers, and Cole Anthony, these players are not to be messed with because they can really do upsets if they are playing well.

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Quote from: arwin100 on December 23, 2022, 07:01:27 AM

Quote from: agustina2 on December 23, 2022, 05:11:15 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on December 23, 2022, 12:03:17 AM

What made this issue about them is losing versus an average team like the Orlando Magic.

Can these people treat that loss against Magic as just another usual day in the office for the Boston Celtics?

Even if Orland Magic is sitting at the bottom of the Eastern Conference standings, it doesn't mean they don't have the capability to upset some teams above.

This season, Orlando Magic already upsets some of the big teams that have a Superstar and All-Star level of players like Phoenix Suns, Los Angeles Clippers, Golden State Warriors, and Dallas Mavericks. Some of their winnings to aren't being played with the NBA's 2022 Top 1 Rookie Pick this season, Paolo Banchero.

They can just accept the fact that Magic defeat then so maybe they are still cannot believe what happen in that game. Magic is young team except for Terrence Ross and Gary Harris they are also consist with talents maybe they just need a experience to improve more defeating celtics can happen and they can upset the top teams and they need their young star to be more aggressive and hungry for wins.

Magic is a decent team, you cannot discount their talent so we have to respect them.

They have a decent record in their last 10 games because they won 7 out of 10. Though they are not in the playoff ranking but that's already a good development for them. I can't believe what they did especially the Celtics whom they beat twice in a row.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 23, 2022, 05:11:15 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on December 23, 2022, 12:03:17 AM

What made this issue about them is losing versus an average team like the Orlando Magic.

Can these people treat that loss against Magic as just another usual day in the office for the Boston Celtics?

Even if Orland Magic is sitting at the bottom of the Eastern Conference standings, it doesn't mean they don't have the capability to upset some teams above.

This season, Orlando Magic already upsets some of the big teams that have a Superstar and All-Star level of players like Phoenix Suns, Los Angeles Clippers, Golden State Warriors, and Dallas Mavericks. Some of their winnings to aren't being played with the NBA's 2022 Top 1 Rookie Pick this season, Paolo Banchero.

They can't just accept the fact that Magic defeat then so maybe they are still cannot believe what happen in that game. Magic is young team except for Terrence Ross and Gary Harris they are also consist with talents maybe they just need a experience to improve more defeating celtics can happen and they can upset the top teams and they need their young star to be more aggressive and hungry for wins.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on December 23, 2022, 12:03:17 AM

What made this issue about them is losing versus an average team like the Orlando Magic.

Can these people treat that loss against Magic as just another usual day in the office for the Boston Celtics?

Even if Orland Magic is sitting at the bottom of the Eastern Conference standings, it doesn't mean they don't have the capability to upset some teams above.

This season, Orlando Magic already upsets some of the big teams that have a Superstar and All-Star level of players like Phoenix Suns, Los Angeles Clippers, Golden State Warriors, and Dallas Mavericks. Some of their winnings to aren't being played with the NBA's 2022 Top 1 Rookie Pick this season, Paolo Banchero.

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Quote from: harizen on December 22, 2022, 06:42:30 PM

Others are too worried about Boston Celtics' losing streak not realizing that this season, you can't expect dominating teams to always have that consistent win. Seems inappropriate to me to think that there's a problem with their system. That's not making sense.

What if the Celtics will snap their losing streak next game? Others will say now that the system is now working fine lol.

The real battle is in the playoffs where everyone will have a 0-0 record at the start. The season is still in the early phase. Let's just observe.

Well pretty much it is normal, sometimes those teams will surely be surprised about their opponent team because there might be some breakout skills of a player on that team, we can not say for sure if that team is not really 100% so there are no perfect teams now a day and pretty much he is now having a lot of new players that are getting an all-star play even though they are just rookies and this is pretty much alarming for the old one because there might be switching of players that are getting those all-star plays but are still in the rookie-level which means what if they reach their ceiling,

These are just examples of what might be happening but again the Boston Celtics are still in a good position for the playoffs in my opinion so slacking off a bit might be another strategy for them,

Quote from: Pamadar on December 23, 2022, 12:14:24 AM

Seems that even they will try to intentionally tank the chance of getting the 1st round draft is not a guarantee, though it's really a game changer for the team who can manage to surround that rookie with good star/s or role players.

It's good to see those teams who anticipated to be tanking, but they prove that they are competitive
with the new sets of players.

I really like the situation for the NBA now, it is really hard for bettors to predict who's really going to win because even though they think that they like a team and it's going to win and has a huge liking for the odds then the outcome is really worst for them as the team lost with their favorite team,

I really like the situation right now even though I really like the Golden State Warriors, it is pretty much entertaining to watch a game right now

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Quote from: harizen on December 22, 2022, 06:42:30 PM

Others are too worried about Boston Celtics' losing streak not realizing that this season, you can't expect dominating teams to always have that consistent win. Seems inappropriate to me to think that there's a problem with their system. That's not making sense.

What if the Celtics will snap their losing streak next game? Others will say now that the system is now working fine lol.

The real battle is in the playoffs where everyone will have a 0-0 record at the start. The season is still in the early phase. Let's just observe.

For those who are too worried about the Celtics on how they are in a losing streak right now, maybe think of what happened to them last season.

They are at the bottom at the first half of the season and just after the all-star, they went and win those games and got the 2nd spot and reached the NBA Finals that season. Like @harizen said, we are in the early phase of the season. We are just at the quarter of the season and many things can still happen in the future. We might see the Celtics having a losing streak, but they are still at the 2nd spot still so no worries.

We might see the Warriors tank like other are saying, we might see the Nuggets who are at the top spot as of this moment go down to the 8th. We might see the Nets go down because some might get injured (hope it will not happen). The season is still early and expect many more things to happen. No need to worry if you are a Celtic Fan. Worry if they will not enter the playoffs. Cheesy

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 22, 2022, 05:45:22 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on December 22, 2022, 04:59:10 PM

True, it's not guarantee that you will get the 1st pick if you even try to tank for this season and think that you will be the first one to select next season's pick, it's not the way the NBA works

The expected 1st Round draft pick rookie might be a game-changer for those teams that will tank this season but since the NBA lottery does not work the way where the worst team will automatically get the first pick, still we can assure you that those tank teams will get at least the Top 5.

But honesty, it's hard to tank even intentionally. These worst teams should just enjoy the game and let their players just do their best in every game. Look at the Utah Jazz during their first several games. They expected to tank this season but some of their players were able to step up.

Seems that even they will try to intentionally tank the chance of getting the 1st round draft is not a guarantee, though it's really a game changer for the team who can manage to surround that rookie with good star/s or role players.

It's good to see those teams who anticipated to be tanking, but they prove that they are competitive
with the new sets of players.

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