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legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
May 22, 2014, 12:37:47 PM
#49
Quick question: How does the looks of JD point towards a scam?

Yeah, but also just-dice.com has a hyphen!  That must mean it's a scam, right?!?

Seriously, someone used that argument before.

That's not the scam. The scam is when you STOLE my virginity. You said "just the tip." You lied! I can never get that back, either!

Congratulations ranlo. Your posts are really contributing to the community.

Does that mean I've won a prize or something? Maybe a new award? Or is that just a passive "thank you?" If it's the latter, you're absolutely welcome.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
May 22, 2014, 12:35:42 PM
#48
Quick question: How does the looks of JD point towards a scam?

Yeah, but also just-dice.com has a hyphen!  That must mean it's a scam, right?!?

Seriously, someone used that argument before.

That's not the scam. The scam is when you STOLE my virginity. You said "just the tip." You lied! I can never get that back, either!

Congratulations ranlo. Your posts are really contributing to the community.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
May 22, 2014, 12:31:48 PM
#47
Quick question: How does the looks of JD point towards a scam?

Yeah, but also just-dice.com has a hyphen!  That must mean it's a scam, right?!?

Seriously, someone used that argument before.

That's not the scam. The scam is when you STOLE my virginity. You said "just the tip." You lied! I can never get that back, either!
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
May 22, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
#46


Because ignoring everything I said except the 1 single thing that could be sexualized really really backs your point of view. BTW not everything is always sexual.

Yeah, but also just-dice.com has a hyphen!  That must mean it's a scam, right?!?

Seriously, someone used that argument before.

That's pretty funny!
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
May 22, 2014, 01:59:21 AM
#45
I feel bad for you Doog, and any other legit gambling site owner. You have to deal with a little bit of everybody, even the most mindless claims.

It kind of sucks, but at least I'm not him.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
May 21, 2014, 08:37:41 PM
#44
Quick question: How does the looks of JD point towards a scam?

Yeah, but also just-dice.com has a hyphen!  That must mean it's a scam, right?!?

Seriously, someone used that argument before.

I feel bad for you Doog, and any other legit gambling site owner. You have to deal with a little bit of everybody, even the most mindless claims.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
May 21, 2014, 07:45:21 PM
#43
Quick question: How does the looks of JD point towards a scam?

Yeah, but also just-dice.com has a hyphen!  That must mean it's a scam, right?!?

Seriously, someone used that argument before.
hero member
Activity: 740
Merit: 501
May 21, 2014, 12:56:43 PM
#42
I would just post with that account had it been under my control. Making personal insults against legit criticism makes you sound like the butthurt one, virtually any dice website looks better than JD, Primedice etc etc. Am I a shill for every other dice website out there as well?

I was accused to be related to the Casinobit business by some idiot off the forum with no evidence, I have later read the posts by tmbp. How the fuck does that make me more related to the whole deal?

Quick question: How does the looks of JD point towards a scam? I would be much more worried about a site with flashy gimmicks being a scam than something like JD.

also, it is clear you have never taken a course or have been trained in user interface designing. Just dice looks good, it's balanced, it's easy to navigate and use. The site shows (almost) all the info you want and all the info you need in logical places that's easy to get to. You never have more than 4 (maybe 5) steps to do a certain action. The interface isn't clustered, it doesn't cause frustration and is actually rather calming. The UI design for JD is rather remarkable.

When designing an interface, there are more important things to take into consideration than not looking like it was designed by a 14 yo girl (which it doesn't, you've obviously not spent time with girls that age)

legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
May 21, 2014, 07:38:28 AM
#41
I would just post with that account had it been under my control. Making personal insults against legit criticism makes you sound like the butthurt one, virtually any dice website looks better than JD, Primedice etc etc. Am I a shill for every other dice website out there as well?

I was accused to be related to the Casinobit business by some idiot off the forum with no evidence, I have later read the posts by tmbp. How the fuck does that make me more related to the whole deal?

Quick question: How does the looks of JD point towards a scam? I would be much more worried about a site with flashy gimmicks being a scam than something like JD.

also, it is clear you have never taken a course or have been trained in user interface designing. Just dice looks good, it's balanced, it's easy to navigate and use. The site shows (almost) all the info you want and all the info you need in logical places that's easy to get to. You never have more than 4 (maybe 5) steps to do a certain action. The interface isn't clustered, it doesn't cause frustration and is actually rather calming. The UI design for JD is rather remarkable.

When designing an interface, there are more important things to take into consideration than not looking like it was designed by a 14 yo girl (which it doesn't, you've obviously not spent time with girls that age)
hero member
Activity: 740
Merit: 501
May 21, 2014, 06:31:04 AM
#40
Dooglus you are with the website which looks like it was designed by a 14 year old, how anyone could design a crappier looking website I have no idea but it definitely sounds like an accomplishment.

It featured red text on a red background for much of its user interface.  It had almost no traffic.  And the investment feature they copied from JD was so badly botched that early investors were able to withdraw investments made by later investors.  Kind of an unintentional Ponzi scheme.

It would have been funny if so many people didn't lose coins to the owner's incompetence.

Another person has mentioned the same flaw, surprise surprise, we must be both shills for the same website which no longer exists? How does pointing out your flaws supposedly helps promote another website again?

I didn't say you were trying to promote your dead site.  I was wondering if perhaps you were butthurt because your site was such a horrific failure in every way, and so you feel like the only way to explain it is to decide that successful sites must be scams in some way.

Perhaps I have read the post before, I wasn't aware that someone else had made the same exact accusation some time ago, however I don't see how it helps your case.

The "someone else" made the exact same crazy point in the same aggressive way, exhibited the same faulty reasoning and had the same writing style as you.  He had also already been identified as one of your socks independently of me.  So it's either a really weird coincidence, or you're not being entirely truthful.

Anyway, thanks for playing.  It's been fun.

I would just post with that account had it been under my control. Making personal insults against legit criticism makes you sound like the butthurt one, virtually any dice website looks better than JD, Primedice etc etc. Am I a shill for every other dice website out there as well?

I was accused to be related to the Casinobit business by some idiot off the forum with no evidence, I have later read the posts by tmbp. How the fuck does that make me more related to the whole deal?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
May 21, 2014, 03:18:23 AM
#39
Dooglus you are with the website which looks like it was designed by a 14 year old, how anyone could design a crappier looking website I have no idea but it definitely sounds like an accomplishment.

It featured red text on a red background for much of its user interface.  It had almost no traffic.  And the investment feature they copied from JD was so badly botched that early investors were able to withdraw investments made by later investors.  Kind of an unintentional Ponzi scheme.

It would have been funny if so many people didn't lose coins to the owner's incompetence.

Another person has mentioned the same flaw, surprise surprise, we must be both shills for the same website which no longer exists? How does pointing out your flaws supposedly helps promote another website again?

I didn't say you were trying to promote your dead site.  I was wondering if perhaps you were butthurt because your site was such a horrific failure in every way, and so you feel like the only way to explain it is to decide that successful sites must be scams in some way.

Perhaps I have read the post before, I wasn't aware that someone else had made the same exact accusation some time ago, however I don't see how it helps your case.

The "someone else" made the exact same crazy point in the same aggressive way, exhibited the same faulty reasoning and had the same writing style as you.  He had also already been identified as one of your socks independently of me.  So it's either a really weird coincidence, or you're not being entirely truthful.

Anyway, thanks for playing.  It's been fun.
hero member
Activity: 740
Merit: 501
May 20, 2014, 10:50:37 PM
#38
I'm back, and disappointed but unsurprised to find that OP hasn't made any kind of sensible response to my posts.

Reading mad's posts makes me think he's a conspiracy theorist.

The word "sheeple" in someone's vocabulary is pretty much unique in this respect.  Using it three times in a short succession is quite conclusive:

Dooglus appears to be as transparent as possible without risking the safety of his investors/players.

You could say the same about the owners of Gox before it all went down, I just want to encourage critical thinking and make people question their blind decisions.

You couldn't say anything like the same about MtGox.  They never published a list of user balances, and only once (to my knowledge) did any kind of proof of holding coins with the 424242 BTC transaction or whatever it was.  What you could say about MtGox would be:

"MtGox held large amounts of customer funds but never proved they were solvent.  It was therefore not particularly surprising when they declared bankruptcy.  Just-Dice on the other hand proves their solvency every week, and has been doing so since shortly after launch, well before MtGox shut down, so there's really no similarity".

That would be more truthful but wouldn't help your case.

I wonder what your real motivation is behind this witch hunt.  Is it something to do with your own failed casino site I wonder?  Weren't you the guy who tried to copy JD's investment model on a crappy video-based roulette site and ended up "losing" customer funds somehow?

so... guys casinobit.net is apparently a very nice casino, owned by yours truly... as an alt account of course.

"Yours truly" means "me", not "him".  Doesn't it?

Oh, by the way I managed to find the post where I was previously called a scammer for not publishing transaction IDs.  It's from "tmbp" who I've long believed to be the guy who ran casinobit (into the ground), and I'm not the only one:

It's funny because this thread is garbage and every poster here has a Trust rating of -10 or less.

It is, because most of them are either the scammers that I have reported or their shills, they also get pissed off and neg rep me too.

Where is the list of all the bets together with txids that are on the blockchain on Just-dice.com?

Just-Dice doesn't fill the blockchain with bets.  If you had done any research at all you would know that.

Dooglus, stop trying to twist your way out of this, where is the list of the txids of the desposits of all the accounts on your website?

Dooglus you are with the website which looks like it was designed by a 14 year old, how anyone could design a crappier looking website I have no idea but it definitely sounds like an accomplishment.

Another person has mentioned the same flaw, surprise surprise, we must be both shills for the same website which no longer exists? How does pointing out your flaws supposedly helps promote another website again?

Perhaps I have read the post before, I wasn't aware that someone else had made the same exact accusation some time ago, however I don't see how it helps your case.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
May 20, 2014, 09:26:18 PM
#37
I'm back, and disappointed but unsurprised to find that OP hasn't made any kind of sensible response to my posts.

Reading mad's posts makes me think he's a conspiracy theorist.

The word "sheeple" in someone's vocabulary is pretty much unique in this respect.  Using it three times in a short succession is quite conclusive:

Dooglus appears to be as transparent as possible without risking the safety of his investors/players.

You could say the same about the owners of Gox before it all went down, I just want to encourage critical thinking and make people question their blind decisions.

You couldn't say anything like the same about MtGox.  They never published a list of user balances, and only once (to my knowledge) did any kind of proof of holding coins with the 424242 BTC transaction or whatever it was.  What you could say about MtGox would be:

"MtGox held large amounts of customer funds but never proved they were solvent.  It was therefore not particularly surprising when they declared bankruptcy.  Just-Dice on the other hand proves their solvency every week, and has been doing so since shortly after launch, well before MtGox shut down, so there's really no similarity".

That would be more truthful but wouldn't help your case.

I wonder what your real motivation is behind this witch hunt.  Is it something to do with your own failed casino site I wonder?  Weren't you the guy who tried to copy JD's investment model on a crappy video-based roulette site and ended up "losing" customer funds somehow?

so... guys casinobit.net is apparently a very nice casino, owned by yours truly... as an alt account of course.

"Yours truly" means "me", not "him".  Doesn't it?

Oh, by the way I managed to find the post where I was previously called a scammer for not publishing transaction IDs.  It's from "tmbp" who I've long believed to be the guy who ran casinobit (into the ground), and I'm not the only one:

It's funny because this thread is garbage and every poster here has a Trust rating of -10 or less.

It is, because most of them are either the scammers that I have reported or their shills, they also get pissed off and neg rep me too.

Where is the list of all the bets together with txids that are on the blockchain on Just-dice.com?

Just-Dice doesn't fill the blockchain with bets.  If you had done any research at all you would know that.

Dooglus, stop trying to twist your way out of this, where is the list of the txids of the desposits of all the accounts on your website?
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
May 20, 2014, 06:06:45 PM
#36
You could say the same about the owners of Gox before it all went down, I just want to encourage critical thinking and make people question their blind decisions.

No, actually you cannot, Mt. Gox is a false comparison with a very different business model and was not nearly as transparent as dooglus has been with Just-Dice.  

Encouraging critical thinking is a worthy goal, but I'm not sure the way to engender it is to walk into a chat room and accusing someone of being a scammer along a dimension that really would not benefit them much.  YMMV.
sr. member
Activity: 470
Merit: 250
May 20, 2014, 06:04:10 PM
#35
It could be that the volume of fake bets got so high that people invested themselves, it could be that some investments don't show up on the website after an investor invests.

So you are trying to say that the actual amount invested is greater then what he says? If this was the case, having fake bets would make no difference.
hero member
Activity: 667
Merit: 500
May 20, 2014, 05:59:42 PM
#34
In the logs posted, the op strikes me as law enforcement trying to do blockchain analytics on large tx betters using this service as a honeypot.

I knew someone would bring it up, consider the latest openssl bug, now realize that chances are almost all authorities and/or organizations that would want to access this information already have access to it.

The only ones who cannot access it are private organizations and/or people like you or me.

This Heartbleed talk is generalized nonsense. You're basically asking the operator to divulge information about users under the pretense of fraud accusations. Unfortunately, people who are not you are not privy to whatever is happening inside your head, so there is nothing irrational about having the suspicion that these are your intentions. It might not even be that you yourself have any law enforcement position, but you could very well be someone nabbed for something turning states evidence to plea your situation down. We have no way of knowing, and it doesn't help that no normal person would ever give this much of a shit about what you're talking about!
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
May 20, 2014, 05:58:29 PM
#33
Just gotta say as always, dooglus +1 for being clear and explaining things.  

It should be obvious to everyone by now that if you were a crook you'd been gone a long time ago.  You yourself have already explained how while you can make a reasonably provably fair system for players, it's really hard to make one for investors.

So Mad if you want to be critical that may be a more useful avenue.

Not choosing to implement a system that may further prove you are honest does not make one dishonest.

Good Luck!

Reading mad's posts makes me think he's a conspiracy theorist. I just don't see enough proof against Dooglus, and Dooglus appears to be as transparent as possible without risking the safety of his investors/players.

You could say the same about the owners of Gox before it all went down, I just want to encourage critical thinking and make people question their blind decisions.

This is true, and in some cases the conspiracies come true (or are true). Everyone has to make their own judgements, and while I understand where you're coming from on that, you're just not putting it in a way where I can see it the same way you do.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1029
May 20, 2014, 05:58:09 PM
#32
so... guys casinobit.net is apparently a very nice casino, owned by yours truly... as an alt account of course.
hero member
Activity: 740
Merit: 501
May 20, 2014, 05:56:24 PM
#31
Just gotta say as always, dooglus +1 for being clear and explaining things. 

It should be obvious to everyone by now that if you were a crook you'd been gone a long time ago.  You yourself have already explained how while you can make a reasonably provably fair system for players, it's really hard to make one for investors.

So Mad if you want to be critical that may be a more useful avenue.

Not choosing to implement a system that may further prove you are honest does not make one dishonest.

Good Luck!

Reading mad's posts makes me think he's a conspiracy theorist. I just don't see enough proof against Dooglus, and Dooglus appears to be as transparent as possible without risking the safety of his investors/players.

You could say the same about the owners of Gox before it all went down, I just want to encourage critical thinking and make people question their blind decisions.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
May 20, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
#30
Just gotta say as always, dooglus +1 for being clear and explaining things. 

It should be obvious to everyone by now that if you were a crook you'd been gone a long time ago.  You yourself have already explained how while you can make a reasonably provably fair system for players, it's really hard to make one for investors.

So Mad if you want to be critical that may be a more useful avenue.

Not choosing to implement a system that may further prove you are honest does not make one dishonest.

Good Luck!

Reading mad's posts makes me think he's a conspiracy theorist. I just don't see enough proof against Dooglus, and Dooglus appears to be as transparent as possible without risking the safety of his investors/players.
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