Topic: Machines and money - page 2. (Read 12755 times)
If a machine was self-aware, would they value life? Natural selection created strong family bonds in most complex organisms over billions of years. The bonds even cross species in many cases. Somehow it only makes sense that machines would also adapt a bonding behavior. They may even develop a dominion based philosophy where they see themselves as the Earth's and our caretakers. In this case, they may use money to motivate humans to reach a higher potential.
We don't need automated worker like robot or anything for doing some job because its will make unemployment and uncontrolled multiply. 
But we know the human cost of hiring more expensive than hiring a machine or the like, so many companies prefer to use a machine or the like. : D
But we know the human cost of hiring more expensive than hiring a machine or the like, so many companies prefer to use a machine or the like. : D
Im thinking they are just going to pay humans a lot lot less.
i was thinking that in a very distant future if machine could mine bitcoin by themselves without human it could help the decentralization aspect of the network
those will be very advanced machine that does not need maintenance by any kind, they upgrade their own software with an hard coded algo and stuff like that
those will be very advanced machine that does not need maintenance by any kind, they upgrade their own software with an hard coded algo and stuff like that
I really hope this never happens and we never get to see machines like this. If this would come true, somehow I think that us humans, would become endangered species very soon.
Let Bitcoin stay a bit more centralized instead of this, please!
AI's are made by humans, people, they only do what they are programmed to do by people.
Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
I don't think it will take 5-10 years to achieve something significant in the artificial intelligence field. But it will eventually happen, and people will create sentient AI in the future with the ability to learn.Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
What will happen then it yet to be seen, opinions may vary. We could end up with our own SkyNet or Matrix.
a self learning AI is quite dangerous, if its able to understands human
feelings that will be the start of the threat.but to be honest
if humans make a sentient AI im pretty sure they will put a safety
measure like, fail safe if it start to do something suspicious.
There are two radically different position in your post. First you tell that "a self learning AI is quite dangerous, if its able to understands human feelings that will be the start of the threat." So an AI which can be a "thinking and with feelings thing" it is dangerous if we read this sentence. Then you do a 180 degree turnabout telling that " but to be honest if humans make a sentient AI im pretty sure they will put a safety measure like, fail safe if it start to do something suspicious." So reading these words of this sentence can be understood that an AI cannot be a danger thing because the human will think to make it safe and to not be able to make bad to the human kind. What is your opinion? It is or it is not dangerous the AI? Seems that according to you not (reading the end of your post). The question that "haunts" me is: if you know or understand that an AI cannot be a dangerous thing for the human kind, like you write in your definitive last sentence, why tell at the beginning that an AI "IS QUITE DANGEROUS" (so is FOR SURE dangerous) and not "MAY BE DANGEROUS"? For what reason you first present one conviction and then another one totally in opposite with the first? Cannot be understand this kind of expression by me.
because AI can be corrupted and other people can change the fail safe
that has been put in it. that why i put a self learning AI is quite dangerous
in the beggining.
im sorry if my comment above you is confusing.
i was thinking that in a very distant future if machine could mine bitcoin by themselves without human it could help the decentralization aspect of the network
those will be very advanced machine that does not need maintenance by any kind, they upgrade their own software with an hard coded algo and stuff like that
those will be very advanced machine that does not need maintenance by any kind, they upgrade their own software with an hard coded algo and stuff like that
In the final days of the mankind machines will rise and make more money than ever imagined.
AI's are made by humans, people, they only do what they are programmed to do by people.
Questionable. There are self learning machines which may do things that the programmers did not teach them. These machines are at a very basic stage, but who knows what's possible in 20 years.
Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
All humans is an impossible task because humans will simply not want a robotic dentist.
AI's are made by humans, people, they only do what they are programmed to do by people.
Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
I don't think it will take 5-10 years to achieve something significant in the artificial intelligence field. But it will eventually happen, and people will create sentient AI in the future with the ability to learn.Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
What will happen then it yet to be seen, opinions may vary. We could end up with our own SkyNet or Matrix.
a self learning AI is quite dangerous, if its able to understands human
feelings that will be the start of the threat.but to be honest
if humans make a sentient AI im pretty sure they will put a safety
measure like, fail safe if it start to do something suspicious.
There are two radically different position in your post. First you tell that "a self learning AI is quite dangerous, if its able to understands human feelings that will be the start of the threat." So an AI which can be a "thinking and with feelings thing" it is dangerous if we read this sentence. Then you do a 180 degree turnabout telling that " but to be honest if humans make a sentient AI im pretty sure they will put a safety measure like, fail safe if it start to do something suspicious." So reading these words of this sentence can be understood that an AI cannot be a danger thing because the human will think to make it safe and to not be able to make bad to the human kind. What is your opinion? It is or it is not dangerous the AI? Seems that according to you not (reading the end of your post). The question that "haunts" me is: if you know or understand that an AI cannot be a dangerous thing for the human kind, like you write in your definitive last sentence, why tell at the beginning that an AI "IS QUITE DANGEROUS" (so is FOR SURE dangerous) and not "MAY BE DANGEROUS"? For what reason you first present one conviction and then another one totally in opposite with the first? Cannot be understand this kind of expression by me.
AI's are made by humans, people, they only do what they are programmed to do by people.
Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
I don't think it will take 5-10 years to achieve something significant in the artificial intelligence field. But it will eventually happen, and people will create sentient AI in the future with the ability to learn.Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
What will happen then it yet to be seen, opinions may vary. We could end up with our own SkyNet or Matrix.
a self learning AI is quite dangerous, if its able to understands
human feelings that will be the start of the threat. but to be honest
if humans make a sentient AI im pretty sure they will put a safety
measure like, fail safe if it start to do something suspicious.
It is understandable that you ever imagine until things like that, but i dont think that is a real danger
If that happen maybe we will back to the era without internet, it will set back technology era but it cant make people extinct
Worst come to the worst we cant do global transaction thats all
If that happen maybe we will back to the era without internet, it will set back technology era but it cant make people extinct
Worst come to the worst we cant do global transaction thats all
AI's are made by humans, people, they only do what they are programmed to do by people.
Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
I don't think it will take 5-10 years to achieve something significant in the artificial intelligence field. But it will eventually happen, and people will create sentient AI in the future with the ability to learn.Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
What will happen then it yet to be seen, opinions may vary. We could end up with our own SkyNet or Matrix.
AI's are made by humans, people, they only do what they are programmed to do by people.
Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
Unless someone makes an AI that's programmed to replace all humans (which I doubt) you shouldn't be too worried about it.
In the last 5 - 10 years us humans have been replaced a bunch, a lot has been made to be automated by machines and robots. Investors in these machines and robots believe that the machines and robots are cheaper to buy rather than to pay humans off.
World is developing greate AI now. AI that has ability to developing themself sounds dangerous to me.
What's AI??Why are they trying to develop this AI??
AI= Artificial Intelligence
Why this is or will be developed? Because it will have several benefits in different fields and industries.For instance it can take off the heat from people in various jobs and positions. But also risks shouldn't be underestimated or get downplayed.If AI is far enough developed it might replace the human.Then it becomes a threat.
to some extented it is right that what you said , but one point to be noted is that this all are created by humans and human knows how to use and till which extend he has to give power to this AI. what ever the development is done to AI it cannot replace Humans.
Has anyone considered that Bitcoin may well have been developed by an artificial intelligence and that we are, in fact, already post-singularity?
What better way to make the jump from computational sentience towards crafting the real, physical world at will than by inventing math-money?
It may sound absurd prima facie but it is, nonetheless, a curious thought experiment.
With the advent of DACs, algorithms are already beginning to compete in earnest to be the robot king of the capitalist mountain. Neat.
What better way to make the jump from computational sentience towards crafting the real, physical world at will than by inventing math-money?
It may sound absurd prima facie but it is, nonetheless, a curious thought experiment.
With the advent of DACs, algorithms are already beginning to compete in earnest to be the robot king of the capitalist mountain. Neat.
AI is far enough developed it might replace the human.Then it becomes a threat.
It will never replace me. I'm too stupid and chaotic enought, that no algo ever can replace me.
I'm a computer admin, but nevertheless I cannot say, what my computer is calculating, and why. I'm seeing the screen only, and it seems valid.
Reality is, that the "Homo Oeconomicus" will not survive.
World is developing greate AI now. AI that has ability to developing themself sounds dangerous to me.
What's AI??Why are they trying to develop this AI??
AI= Artificial Intelligence
Why this is or will be developed? Because it will have several benefits in different fields and industries.For instance it can take off the heat from people in various jobs and positions. But also risks shouldn't be underestimated or get downplayed.If AI is far enough developed it might replace the human.Then it becomes a threat.
World is developing greate AI now. AI that has ability to developing themself sounds dangerous to me.
What's AI??Why are they trying to develop this AI??
We don't need any new technologies to automate 50% of current jobs, this alone would destroy the current economic system because the unemployment would be insane and unsustainable unless all the unemployed people that don't have any other means of income got put on welfare. THat's how yo would trigger massive riots everywhere, having unsustainable unemployment while not giving people basic resources.
Sure. It is better do everything with hands and without head. Like it was thousand years ago. Technology hurt everyone, give only unemployment. For example the invention of computer (to tell one) has leave without work millions developers, programmers and other auxiliary staff. The invention of railways made possible that millions and millions people were punished to go faster and not walking in their destination. The invention of internet made possible the punishment of millions and millions people with the connection much more fast with each other, have unlimited possibilities of knowledge and even create something wrong and dirty like bitcoin. The last one is a bigger punishment than internet itself. Being the first materialization of another big technology (as it is peer to peer technology) it is an invention to punish more the users of it. It is a product of a double invented technology (internet and peer to peer). Who knows how people will remain jobless with this new technology....
First of all was the "producers" of bitcoin. They had big losses from this invention. Who knows which will happen ongoing with these damned new technologies? 
We don't need any new technologies to automate 50% of current jobs, this alone would destroy the current economic system because the unemployment would be insane and unsustainable unless all the unemployed people that don't have any other means of income got put on welfare. THat's how yo would trigger massive riots everywhere, having unsustainable unemployment while not giving people basic resources.
Can a computer program be more intelligent than the creator? No, it can not, of course. Because the computer program would overtake. At this point, human mankind has lost his meaning of life completely, and he will die. The machines too.
This could happen indeed, in another way you think. Not the machines will become as intelligent as human mankind. The opposite is true, human mankind is becoming as stupid as computers. It's like Albert Einstein told us: "Everything is relative".
This could happen indeed, in another way you think. Not the machines will become as intelligent as human mankind. The opposite is true, human mankind is becoming as stupid as computers. It's like Albert Einstein told us: "Everything is relative".
Fortunately, not all humans are becoming as stupid as computers. From the begining of times there always were some who were wise. The question is will the other part of the humankind listen what those wise people are saying though.
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