Topic: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb - page 2. (Read 1145 times)

Have you seriously looked at my merit-giving history lately?  How can you possibly accuse me of giving merit disproportionately to any of those members you mentioned above, or of any other member?  Do me a favor and take a closer look at the merits I've given out.

Whether you agree with the opinions in the posts I've merited is another matter, and that doesn't concern me.  We've all got different opinions here, and I disagree with your assertion that I'm meriting posts that are "incorrect time and time again".  And I have to tell you, I'm getting more and more confused about exactly what it is you think is going on here and what the problem is.  Sig campaigns?  Abuse of shitposters?  A cabal of senior members sharing merits and coincidentally posting in the same Meta threads?  Most of the members you've mentioned (and myself) do hang out in Meta a lot, so it's not a surprise that we're all replying to your posts.  You've probably read a lot of our posts, too, so it shouldn't be surprising that we're disagreeing with a lot of things you're writing.  It's not a conspiracy, though.

Edit:Oh, I'm sure she'll understand and return the favor.

You should have started with that. All doors (and holes) are open for HBW. That probably didn't come out right.

Yeah that's because you're stalking me.

This is not about ridiculing "people banned". This is about excuses for plagiarism, which is a deliberate violation of forum rules. You can feel pitty and others can laugh, seems like a fair deal.

@tp

You don't want to remove your sig and you like getting paid to post. Fair enough nothing wrong with that. Financial motivation to post is not essentially worthy of scorn.
It's not that you are backing up pals (people you are very familiar with and share a lot of merit appreciation with) it is that you are meriting and agreeing with statements they are making that are incorrect time and time again. If one of loyce, suchmoon, marboroza, The pharmacist is there another one will surely follow. Are you guys notified if one of the others makes a post?


@suchmoon

Who could have imagined you would show up here (from the future with the fresh fox scent on you).




Anyway not to derail this thread l will say simply I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.

See, I told you, cryptohunter--they didn't invite me (and I'm hoping the place at least has windows and doesn't ever catch on fire). 

And suchmoon if you ever do invite me to that club, can I bring my lady friend along with me?  She really knows the spirit of bitcointalk and might love to be in on a good conspiracy.

Looks like you found your calling. Let us know how it goes, you might even get some merits if you're good at it.


The foxhole - where all shady shit takes place - doesn't have doors. I think we're gonna have to keep you away from the punch bowl during the next backslapper's club meeting if you don't remember anything.

No, because I have nothing against signature campaigns and don't mind getting paid to do something I'd be doing anyway.  I was a member here for about 9 months or so before I joined a signature campaign.  I didn't even know what they were until I started reading about how they were the main reason why the majority of posts on the forum are so bad.  Why should I punish myself to prove something to anyone here?  And it isn't like it would help anything anyway.

Shitposters shouldn't be in signature campaigns.  It's a privilege to be in one, and I think all of them should be as selective as Chipmixer is.  It's no small amount of money (to me) that I earn by being in the campaign, but IMO I'm not a shitposter and I do my best to keep earning the privilege of being in not only a sig campaign, but Chipmixer in particular. 

Who are my pals?  Why do you think that if more than one person who consistently disagrees with you, there's some sort of conspiracy?  I also don't mean to be rude, but you seem to be a bit paranoid.  There are a lot of members here who see the shitposting problem through the same lens that I do, and that may have something to do with how blatant and obvious the problem is.  They're not my "pals", just people who happen to share a similar opinion on the matter.  I've disagreed with a lot of DT members (past and present) and staff before, including hilariousandco, Lauda, DarkStar_, LoyceV, and others as well.  There's no concerted effort to do anything as far as I'm aware.  I very rarely even exchange PMs with any of them, so there's nothing that I know of going on behind closed doors.  If there is, they're not including me in it.

" I don't care how poor or desperate these plagiarists are"

"My conscience doesn't bother me about taking the piss out of those kinds of people"

The pharmacist the potential mod and DT member super merit achiever....



I would not advise making statements based upon your moral compass nor your critical decision making capabilities.

Maybe they are just pretending to be desperate and are secret billionaires begging for airdrop and sig crumbs. I mean can you provide alternative explanation for newish accounts begging and pleading to keep their full or snr member accounts?

There are 2 kinds of assumptions

1. bank alarm going off - guy running out with gun and swag bag and mask - - assuming he could have just robbed the bank?

2. guy posting a guide saying  I have compiled these guides from other guides I found on the net - -  assuming he is claiming the work as his own..


You see there are sensible and reasonable assumptions and completely clueless crazy assumptions. Not all assumptions are equal if you want to make optimal sense of the world.


Also I notice you have a very well paid sig on. Would you care to remove it to prove that you are not here for financial reasons at all??

I will remove my sig so long as You, Loyce, and all the others earing nice bucks from their sigs do so?  What do you guys say. Let's all not have any sigs for a year?  I mean we are not all here just motivated by money are we? we are real enthusiasts.

I will do it if you guys all do the same. Let us set a good example to those greedy 3rd world desperate people here to earn bucks and not here for the pure brilliance of being part of the decentralised trustless movement here.

LET'S BE CLEAR I am saying the real spammers (the worst kind) will not even bother to come here and appeal. I am talking those who have made the odd mistake generally and are being ridiculed is not my idea of being constructive. Sure most deserve to be banned according to the rules fair enough... but I would not say making a game to ridicule them is at all in the spirit of this forum.

Start finding the real people who have scammed or look like real scammers and turn your attention to painting them in the light they should be not picking on easy targets.

I don't mean to be rude to you specifically but I find you to be searching down all your pals who are disagreeing with me and giving merit and support to them when they are clearly wrong and making crazy statements. Please find something sensible to do or else make a sensible and credible argument of your own instead of just meriting nonsense and agreeing with quite mad statements.

It's exactly in the spirit of bitcointalk.  I don't care how poor or desperate these plagiarists are, and there's no way of knowing that for sure anyway.  It's just an assumption.  The indisputable fact is that there are too many newbies coming here to make money by shitposting, and a lot of them are getting busted for stealing other people's work.  I have no sympathy for that.

Good, Meta would be a lot cleaner if that were to happen.  But it hasn't happened yet, which is why the Plagiarism Bingo game is such jolly good fun.  They lie, they give excuses, and they beg--all of that on top of the original offense of stealing content.  My conscience doesn't bother me about taking the piss out of those kinds of people.

I don't think plagiarism is in the spirit of this forum.


I sympathize, but if being able to join bounty campaigns is this important to them, then all the more reason they should have read the rules. It doesn't exactly take much effort to write a single original sentence, which is what most of these bounty campaigns will pay for.


In my opinion, there is no valid "excuse" for plagiarism. I assume the cases you are talking about are when people have copy and pasted various announcements that were obviously announcements. I agree not deserving of an outright ban (unless they are obviously trying to monetize it by adding their own referral links to the bottom of the post or something similar), but it still isn't an excuse and they should properly reference their source.


We know users like this don't read the rules, but if plagiarizers are rightly ridiculed whenever they are encountered, word may spread and it could serve as a deterrent to others.


I don't know why you post in every ban appeal thread or thread about plagiarism asking for leniency for the user(s) in question. Passing someone else's work off as your own, especially when you are doing it simply to get paid, is completely unacceptable in any and all walks of life, from the most early stages of elementary school up to the highest levels of professional careers. A single case of plagiarism is enough to get you expelled from university or fired from a job. I don't know why that should be any different here, regardless of the user's real life circumstances. There isn't much that will get you permanently banned on this forum, but this is one line that we should not be crossing.

This guy is using a lot of excuses and pleads in his thread:



and then when he got caught red handed on doing it more than once.


If a plagiarizer is really desperate to recovering his account he can create a lot of unique and not so convincing excuses to do so.

Don't think it is in the spirit of this board.

1. most of these people are poor as fuck and even though they need to be banned I can't say I have no idea why they do this.
The ones begging and trying to find excuses are probably the poorest and most desperate of all. I feel sorry for some of them.

2. some people have semi legit reasons and have already been made fun of and their valid "excuses" have been ridiculed. Luckily although they were accused and not banned so this gives me faith in the moderation here to a reasonable degree.

3. Just provide the evidence that then need a ban and just leave it at that.

I'm sure there are more useful things people who really want to contribute to the board can be doing rather than ridiculing the poorest and sometimes most desperate of people.

I have to say the real bad copy and pasters will never even bother coming here to complain since they know it is completely futile.

what about "Please, Please,Please unban me this time, I will not do it again"

How about a "wedding" excuse, or a more generic "love made me blind and stupid". This one is quite rare and would add some real challenge to the game.


A similar one - "honeymoon":

I didn't create it, but I did suggest it and o_e_l_e_o quickly created it. Glad to see you've added the I was drunk excuse. That's been used a few times. I think on the original paedo bingo one it includes the drink/drugs excuse.


"I outsourced posts" could be one. I think a couple of people have also used some variation of the my family member was ill. I wonder if any of these excuses would ever fly from a moderator. Imagine me incorrectly banning someone and claiming I was drunk or I outsourced moderation or got my brother/cousin/non-existent wife to do the work instead.

Original thread is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48016152

I am indeed the original creator. Should have put my name on it. I made this after a suggestion from hilarious, and based it heavily (as you can see in the original thread) on a "peadophile bingo" that he had found online. Feel free to do what you would like with it. I have the master as a .psd file with everything in separate layers and easily editable - I can send you a copy if it would help you "spruce up" your generated images.

I made it very quickly with excuses I could remember off the top of my head, and I've missed out some fairly common ones. "I was drunk" is a particular favorite of mine that should have been included.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/account-banned-for-plagiarism-5079217 Read the 1st post here. This deserves to be included somehow. Maybe " I was provided posts for a defaulted loan"

Added

There was a few times also " I bought that Account and it was the Owner before"

Bingo Time     LoL

yeah, to be honest, i don't know who's intellectual property the bingo is... I linked to the thread where i first saw the bingo card appear at the top of my OP AND at the bottom of my webpage in order to give some credit to the inventor, however, hilariousetc didn't include any copyright so the actual inventor might not be credited correctly...

If you're certain that o_e_l_e_o is the inventor, i'll shoot him a PM to ask permission

I was gonna yell at you for stealing o_e_l_e_o's intellectual property but this seems to be a serious effort. Great project, good luck dev