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Topic: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. WTF? - page 25. (Read 49322 times)

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April 09, 2014, 10:04:08 AM
"Specific electronic equipment" is pretty vague.

Will there be any other electronic equipment in the deep sea at 5,000m depth?
There is a 5000m depth?Huh I thought it was 1000m.
legendary
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April 09, 2014, 10:02:02 AM
"Specific electronic equipment" is pretty vague.

Will there be any other electronic equipment in the deep sea at 5,000m depth?
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April 09, 2014, 08:53:49 AM
Was it even guaranteed that it was the box sending out signals? Are they even sure they were searching in the right area?

Yes. Check this:

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Signals heard earlier had also been further analysed by experts who concluded they were from "specific electronic equipment", he said.

"Specific electronic equipment" is pretty vague.

BTW, remember my pilot suicide hypothesis? I hadnt even read this yet:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/flight-370-pilot-friend-shouldn-flying-article-1.1734998



Except it's from an unnamed source ie probable BS.
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April 09, 2014, 07:56:50 AM
BTW, remember my pilot suicide hypothesis? I hadnt even read this yet:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/flight-370-pilot-friend-shouldn-flying-article-1.1734998

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April 09, 2014, 07:52:32 AM
Also, no one can tell for sure that the pings came from the black box - when asked, even the manufacturer was doubtful.

Investigators are reluctant to say anything with certainty, as they should be, but there is nothing else anyone has come up with that makes those kinds of pings, at that frequency at that interval. There is a reason that frequency was chosen for black box pingers: nothing in nature creates anything similar.
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April 09, 2014, 07:47:53 AM
Was it even guaranteed that it was the box sending out signals? Are they even sure they were searching in the right area?

Yes. Check this:

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Signals heard earlier had also been further analysed by experts who concluded they were from "specific electronic equipment", he said.
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April 09, 2014, 07:26:37 AM
Was it even guaranteed that it was the box sending out signals? Are they even sure they were searching in the right area?

There's a pretty big chance that the 'southern arc' hypothesis is vastly inaccurate or completely wrong. Also, no one can tell for sure that the pings came from the black box - when asked, even the manufacturer was doubtful.
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April 09, 2014, 06:21:24 AM
Ships with better detection capabilities are heading towards the are we will know soon enough which location is the correct one

And the blackbox has stooped sending signals. Probably the battery either ran out of power or it is too weak. Now it will be extremely difficult to find it, at 5,000m depth.

Was it even guaranteed that it was the box sending out signals? Are they even sure they were searching in the right area?

Nope to both of those, it was just a possibility.
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April 09, 2014, 05:15:13 AM
Ships with better detection capabilities are heading towards the are we will know soon enough which location is the correct one

And the blackbox has stooped sending signals. Probably the battery either ran out of power or it is too weak. Now it will be extremely difficult to find it, at 5,000m depth.

Was it even guaranteed that it was the box sending out signals? Are they even sure they were searching in the right area?
legendary
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April 09, 2014, 02:46:38 AM
Ships with better detection capabilities are heading towards the are we will know soon enough which location is the correct one

And the blackbox has stooped sending signals. Probably the battery either ran out of power or it is too weak. Now it will be extremely difficult to find it, at 5,000m depth.
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April 09, 2014, 01:53:29 AM
So, there is 600 km between the two locations where Chinese and Australians heard pings. How is that possible? Max detection range of a submerged transmitter installed on the black box doesn't even come close to that - it can barely reach 5, maybe 10 km at best.

Underwater acoustics is weird and complicated. The very same signal may only be detectable for a few km under some circumstances or many thousands of km in others (google for Deep Sound Channel).
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April 09, 2014, 01:41:58 AM
Did they find the black box? I Think they said it would be out of energy by today or yesterday and if it's isn't found it wouldn't send any more signals and possibly never be found.
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April 09, 2014, 12:50:15 AM
looks like the theory that was discussed here were the pilot smooth landed the 777 into the ocean (minimal debris) and sank the plane into the bottom of the ocean is becoming more in line with the findings.

Hmm.. right now that theory seems to be the most reliable one.

Except it does not factor in one important thing what the heck happened to the people
Unless they went down with the ship airplane which would be a bit unusual

Then again if the plane landed relatively intact in the water, it would immediately start to sink, giving those on board little time to escape - into waters of around 8 degrees in a remote region with no immediate hope of rescue. That would be awful.

 http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airline-jet-ocean-debris-would-depend-on-angle-speed-experts-20140409-zqsg6.html#ixzz2yMTaSHlc
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April 08, 2014, 09:22:15 PM
Ships with better detection capabilities are heading towards the are we will know soon enough which location is the correct one
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April 08, 2014, 06:35:59 PM
So, there is 600 km between the two locations where Chinese and Australians heard pings. How is that possible? Max detection range of a submerged transmitter installed on the black box doesn't even come close to that - it can barely reach 5, maybe 10 km at best.
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April 08, 2014, 03:02:52 PM
So the black boxes stop pinging after 30 days and we only start looking for them ~25 days into the search? Doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do IMO.

They were looking for them but the location they were looking at was wrong due to to multiple factors, after corrections they are manging to find the ping, it will take months if not years to get them back from to the surface if it is a 4-8 Kms water deap area
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April 08, 2014, 08:54:53 AM
So the black boxes stop pinging after 30 days and we only start looking for them ~25 days into the search? Doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do IMO.

Earlier it wasn't known that the MH370 has strayed in to that part of the Indian Ocean. That information came later, and the search was organized as quickly as possible. Now with the black-box pings, the search area has been reduced drastically, and hopefully we'll be able to recover the flight data recorder soon enough.
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April 08, 2014, 07:23:38 AM
So the black boxes stop pinging after 30 days and we only start looking for them ~25 days into the search? Doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do IMO.
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April 07, 2014, 05:03:33 PM
Good news indeed!

May be it is possible to triangulate the signal like we do on land with cell signal towers, and find the plane in a few days. Recovery will take years, but we really need to pinpoint the plane before it is too late.
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April 07, 2014, 12:52:57 PM
looks like the theory that was discussed here were the pilot smooth landed the 777 into the ocean (minimal debris) and sank the plane into the bottom of the ocean is becoming more in line with the findings.

Exactly what makes you say that ? Whether the plane exploded midair,  crashed vertically or ditched, the black boxes and 99% of the plane would still end up at the bottom of the ocean. There isnt much in a plane that floats and remains floating for a month, and those parts that do are microscopic compared to the vastness of the ocean and could have drifted hundreds of Km further by now. That we havent found debris by no means proves the plane is mostly intact.

Ditching isnt much of a theory anyway, since it explains nothing. If the plane was still under control by the crew, why would the pilots fly it completely off course to the middle of nowhere for 7 or whatever hours?
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