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Topic: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. WTF? - page 28. (Read 49366 times)

legendary
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April 05, 2014, 03:09:47 AM
Still not found?
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
What do you mean shot down inside one? Flying over it?

Yes. Flying over it.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 03:24:30 PM
Doesnt the plane have report a log? I mean they report where they are every like something knots in the sky, plus what the heck are we using for our satellites for then? For porn?

The tracking systems were either turned off or stopped working for whatever reasons.
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April 04, 2014, 01:16:55 PM
Doesnt the plane have report a log? I mean they report where they are every like something knots in the sky, plus what the heck are we using for our satellites for then? For porn?
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 12:05:30 PM
Shooting down an aircraft would causes massive amounts of debris. I'm sure they would've found some of it by now.

Shooting down a low flying aircraft will produce some amount of debris, but they will be contained within 1 sq. km area. What if the plane was shot inside some of the large Malayan military bases?

What do you mean shot down inside one? Flying over it?
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April 04, 2014, 11:25:01 AM
Shooting down an aircraft would causes massive amounts of debris. I'm sure they would've found some of it by now.

Not necessarily. For example, most of the United Airlines Flight 93 wreckage was found in, or very near the impact crater. If MH370 crashed in similar way somewhere in the high mountains or rainforests of northern Sumatra it could be very hard to find it. Especially when you're not looking there.

And then within ~15 minutes recovering the acars system in that pile of debris, have it working and fly it to the middle of the indian ocean

I don't think they are 100% sure that the plane went south after it was last detected by military radar in the northern exit of the Strait of Malacca, apparently flying NW. Even that radar contact is questionable, there is a chance it wasn't MH370 at all.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
And then within ~15 minutes recovering the acars system in that pile of debris

I don't know how accurate are those ACARS pings.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 11:12:00 AM
Everyone seems to expect some long storyline already written out about this event. I don't have this, nor does anyone else. Every theory can have holes punched through it right now due to lack of *physical* evidence.

Even with a electrical fire theory, I am not sure how the plane made a 2nd turn during this mechanical fire to start heading into the ocean... maybe programmed?... but I am also not sure why the plane didn't burn up and crash much sooner then 6+ hours of flight. Looking at past incidents with commercial aircraft, almost everyone I looked at that involved a fire ended up crashing shortly after takeoff.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft

Sure, it's a simple solution and easy to accept if your a sheep, but it doesn't make any sense to me that a plane with this type of fire could have flown for that long into the ocean without burning up or crashing sooner. This fire would have been so vicious that it would have had to engulf the other 12 staff members (to stop them from notifying the pilot to any signs of a fire, smoke, etc.)  AND would have had to take out multiple communication systems. ALL of this before the pilots even realized it was going on and didn't have time to send a distress call before the communication systems failed, and just turned the plane out of a reaction. A matter of minutes?

Sounds like a pretty extreme fire... again, I wouldn't rule this out, because there is still a chance that somehow this fire did all of this, and the pilot was climbing to 45,000 feet to try and extinguish the fire (remove oxygen), but ultimately died and the plane managed to keep flying for that long. But I don't see this as any more plausible then some of the other theories out there. Some are definitely *out there*, but most of the stories typically point out pieces of evidence or facts that have inconsistencies, don't make sense, or make you question it.


It confuses me when I see a report from the Maldive islands on 3/18 stating things like "several" eyewitness (wish I knew how many) visually spotted a white aircraft with red stripes across it flying very low.

You know, some actual evidence. It's very rare that governments get away with cover ups, especially on this scale, but people just like to assume everything is one. What exactly do the Malaysian government (or whoever you think is behind this) have to gain or lose from covering it up?

I really don't KNOW why anyone would take this plane... I could draw up numerous theories about every country and could pull all kinds of stories out of my ass about why a particular country or group would want to steal a plane, but I don't like doing that.

I, too, need more evidence.  I am just seeing a lot of inconsistencies in the story everywhere, which raises red flags with me and a possible cover-up.

There just isn't enough questioning by people and a lot of people are just accepting what they are told, as they always do.
Damn Humans!  Grin


EDIT: Holy long posts  Batman!
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 11:02:18 AM
Shooting down an aircraft would causes massive amounts of debris. I'm sure they would've found some of it by now.

Shooting down a low flying aircraft will produce some amount of debris, but they will be contained within 1 sq. km area. What if the plane was shot inside some of the large Malayan military bases?

However, I don't think that is the case, as the plane was last spotted near Pulau Penang. However, there is a possibility of the Indonesians shooting it down over Sumatra.

And then within ~15 minutes recovering the acars system in that pile of debris, have it working and fly it to the middle of the indian ocean, because the Malaysians  figured out that the British sat operator would be able to figure out the plane location based on acars pings using that doppler shift analysis, even if that very same company didnt know it was possible until they did it ? Oh please.

As for not wanting to give radar data, very few countries are happy to hand over military radar data for the world to see.

legendary
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April 04, 2014, 10:30:02 AM
Shooting down an aircraft would causes massive amounts of debris. I'm sure they would've found some of it by now.

Shooting down a low flying aircraft will produce some amount of debris, but they will be contained within 1 sq. km area. What if the plane was shot inside some of the large Malayan military bases?

However, I don't think that is the case, as the plane was last spotted near Pulau Penang. However, there is a possibility of the Indonesians shooting it down over Sumatra.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 10:26:35 AM
If there is a coverup going on, my bet would be on this scenario: Malaysian traffic control loses contact with the plane, they see it making sharp turn back into the country's airspace, someone important thinks it's a terrorist attack and military shoots it down.

Shooting down an aircraft would causes massive amounts of debris. I'm sure they would've found some of it by now.
sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 10:04:27 AM
If there is a coverup going on, my bet would be on this scenario: Malaysian traffic control loses contact with the plane, they see it making sharp turn back into the country's airspace, someone important thinks it's a terrorist attack and military shoots it down.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 09:34:22 AM
I reckon the Malaysian government know more or less the same as everybody else does - ie not much.
I don't think that Malaysian government have necessary resources for the quality search - so they are probably not even close to knowing something.

Well they probably know about as much as everyone else then.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 08:15:48 AM
And you know this because...? Or is this just the irrational mind of a conspiracy theorist taking over?

1. Their refusal to reveal details about the last location, i.e radar sighting near Pulau Penang
2. The appalling treatment of the passengers' relatives. They were not allowed to talk to the media
3. Flip-flops.
sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 08:00:46 AM
I reckon the Malaysian government know more or less the same as everybody else does - ie not much.
I don't think that Malaysian government have necessary resources for the quality search - so they are probably not even close to knowing something.
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April 04, 2014, 07:32:33 AM
I reckon the Malaysian government know more or less the same as everybody else does - ie not much.

Yeah, they can only really go on what evidence they have, which isn't much at all. It's not like they're the only country working on this either.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 07:29:21 AM
I reckon the Malaysian government know more or less the same as everybody else does - ie not much.
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April 04, 2014, 07:23:22 AM
Boring news no one cares about mh370 anymore it seems Sad
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April 04, 2014, 07:11:05 AM
You just made up two wild theories and those are meant to be more credible? And what crap are the Malaysians saying? At the moment it looks like they don't know what happened to it and neither does anyone else.

They definitely know something and they are not revealing it. How many flip-flops have they done. They have been lying from the day one.

And you know this because...? Or is this just the irrational mind of a conspiracy theorist taking over? The 'flip-flopping' is probably because they don't know or when more evidence (or lack thereof) becomes available it obviously changes the story.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 07:03:38 AM
You just made up two wild theories and those are meant to be more credible? And what crap are the Malaysians saying? At the moment it looks like they don't know what happened to it and neither does anyone else.

They definitely know something and they are not revealing it. How many flip-flops have they done. They have been lying from the day one.
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