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Quote from: Slow death on July 29, 2024, 06:21:36 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

These exhibition fights could be taken more seriously if the fighters involved fought seriously. In this fight between Rukiya Anpo and Manny Pacquiao, I thought that Manny Pacquiao would lose, because in my opinion Rukiya Anpo is younger, he is only 28 years old and is taller than Manny Pacquiao who has not fought for a long time, it was a good chance for Rukiya Anpo to win with the strength he has. But even so, Rukiya Anpo was unable to knock down Manny Pacquiao who is 45 years old, he is already an old guy. Honestly, it is hard not to laugh at this.

How can a young fighter of 28 years old not be able to beat an old fighter of 45 years old? Grin

It was called exhibition for something on which it would really be just that normal whether they are making things to let the show last up for 3 rounds but it would really be that hard to believe that the fight wasnt that real. Cant be able to take down an old man? If you do tend to look up those solid punch of Anpo, only a few did make up a solid hit but we do all see that it is really that chin of Pacquiao is too tough.
You could really be able to see the big difference about a legend boxer despite of fighting a tall,strong,young fighter but you could be able to see on who do have that good stamina that could last up for more rounds.
If this one had continued until 6 rounds then Anpo is really that sleeping on the canvass or simply being knocked out. We can see that in Round 3, Pacquiao is already started to heat up.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

These exhibition fights could be taken more seriously if the fighters involved fought seriously. In this fight between Rukiya Anpo and Manny Pacquiao, I thought that Manny Pacquiao would lose, because in my opinion Rukiya Anpo is younger, he is only 28 years old and is taller than Manny Pacquiao who has not fought for a long time, it was a good chance for Rukiya Anpo to win with the strength he has. But even so, Rukiya Anpo was unable to knock down Manny Pacquiao who is 45 years old, he is already an old guy. Honestly, it is hard not to laugh at this.

How can a young fighter of 28 years old not be able to beat an old fighter of 45 years old? Grin

You are joking, right ? Cheesy

Even if this was a pro fight, I will never believe that the fight is fair is a mma fighter or kickboxer beats one of best boxer in a fight under boxing rules Cheesy

The same result will be if I would challenge and Olympic swimming champ that is almost 60 Cheesy

I am younger, but he will beat me with more stamina and techniques. The reason why Manny punches havent KOed Anpo is because Anpo havent taken many punches in the head so far. Still have some stone chin. But, I really think that Manny wasnt aiming for a knockout. And Manny isnt really a knockout artist, he used to knockout more people when he was on a way to his prime.

He was knocking people out at 140 lbs and below, but when he goes to the spotlight weight of 147 lbs, he uses his volume and experience to beat the best boxers at that division during his reign.

And we can say that Anpo doesn't have the experience obviously to beat this version of Manny Pacquiao. And this is just a exhibition match so Manny perhaps didn't give his full power and so to not knockout Anpo. However, his reflex is not there as what we have noticed and so there is no knockout. And majority thinks that he should really quit the game and retire from this spots for good.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 29, 2024, 06:21:36 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

These exhibition fights could be taken more seriously if the fighters involved fought seriously. In this fight between Rukiya Anpo and Manny Pacquiao, I thought that Manny Pacquiao would lose, because in my opinion Rukiya Anpo is younger, he is only 28 years old and is taller than Manny Pacquiao who has not fought for a long time, it was a good chance for Rukiya Anpo to win with the strength he has. But even so, Rukiya Anpo was unable to knock down Manny Pacquiao who is 45 years old, he is already an old guy. Honestly, it is hard not to laugh at this.

How can a young fighter of 28 years old not be able to beat an old fighter of 45 years old? Grin

You are joking, right ? Cheesy

Even if this was a pro fight, I will never believe that the fight is fair is a mma fighter or kickboxer beats one of best boxer in a fight under boxing rules Cheesy

The same result will be if I would challenge and Olympic swimming champ that is almost 60 Cheesy

I am younger, but he will beat me with more stamina and techniques. The reason why Manny punches havent KOed Anpo is because Anpo havent taken many punches in the head so far. Still have some stone chin. But, I really think that Manny wasnt aiming for a knockout. And Manny isnt really a knockout artist, he used to knockout more people when he was on a way to his prime.

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Quote from: Darker45 on July 29, 2024, 09:35:56 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

You were right. It doesn't take a miracle for an exhibition fight to end in a draw. Especially to a three-rounder match purely for fun, decisions don't have to be careful and objective. Hell, there don't have to be judges even. The fight could have ended without a decision and it was still good. They were boxing anyway; they weren't running from each other or hugging each other.

Manny has hang up his gloves already. As far as his comeback plans are concerned, he better shelve it for good. But exhibition matches aren't probably too much for him. Perhaps they're even good for his fitness and health. But he should carefully be choosing opponents. Too hungry and much younger, bigger, and stronger opponents could take fun fights a little bit too seriously and hurt him.

Yeah, with this kind of performance from Manny, as fans we should be concerned if he wants a comeback. He didn't look good against Anpo so for now, if he has plans then maybe really trained hard and consistent.

I'm just thinking that perhaps Manny didn't prepare hard for this fight, probably just a week or two of sparring and that its. That's why everything is off on him, nevertheless, he is away from his prime so he should consider really walking away and call it quits.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

You were right. It doesn't take a miracle for an exhibition fight to end in a draw. Especially to a three-rounder match purely for fun, decisions don't have to be careful and objective. Hell, there don't have to be judges even. The fight could have ended without a decision and it was still good. They were boxing anyway; they weren't running from each other or hugging each other.

Manny has hang up his gloves already. As far as his comeback plans are concerned, he better shelve it for good. But exhibition matches aren't probably too much for him. Perhaps they're even good for his fitness and health. But he should carefully be choosing opponents. Too hungry and much younger, bigger, and stronger opponents could take fun fights a little bit too seriously and hurt him.

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Quote from: cabron on July 29, 2024, 10:37:05 AM

He won the 6 round fight but indeed the old Pacman is already old. This is an exhibition fight but we can still see how inefficient he may be if he fights Barrios who is a champ in the MW. It's a real boxing match or so they say as being flashed in the news.

It was a draw isn't it? And no Barrios is not a champ in MW (Middle-Weight), he is a champ in the Welterweight wherein Manny was once a champion and that's why he is mulling a comeback on that division.

Quote from: cabron on July 29, 2024, 10:37:05 AM

I doubt he would win against Barrios too with such a performance. He used to hit easily with his left like it could extend further and still stun a fighter.
What is to be seen soon is if Floyd Mayweather can also do better against Gotti. If it looks fair to see Floyd and Pacman fight. It might just be a good exhibition all for money.

I would agree, with this kind of performance, it's going to be a mismatch against a young fighter in Barrios. But if Pacquiao insisted then Barrios will give him that fight just to get his biggest purse in boxing. And as much a we love to see Pacquiao in the ring and fight for the belt, it's better for him to hang up his gloves and retire in the pro ranks.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

And as other have said, Father time is undefeated, and so in his fight, it looks like Manny is really way past his boxing time and he should not think of fighting Barrios. And if did show up a good fight here, maybe fans are interested on him again going up a prime boxers. But as we can see, he ate a lot of shot, if Anpo could have a power, Manny might be in the canvass again and it will not look good for him.

I don't think he is short of money though, perhaps he still think that he can fight Father time and win. His legacy is settled already, no debate about that. But just stay away from pro fighting again. I do agree with Anpo, for sure fighting the legend could have gain him a lot of valuable experience that might help him in his future fight.

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Quote from: cabron on July 29, 2024, 10:37:05 AM

He won the 6 round fight but indeed the old Pacman is already old. This is an exhibition fight but we can still see how inefficient he may be if he fights Barrios who is a champ in the MW. It's a real boxing match or so they say as being flashed in the news.

I doubt he would win against Barrios too with such a performance. He used to hit easily with his left like it could extend further and still stun a fighter.
What is to be seen soon is if Floyd Mayweather can also do better against Gotti. If it looks fair to see Floyd and Pacman fight. It might just be a good exhibition all for money.

Right, we say that this is a gauge for him if he can fight in the professional ranks, but as we can see, Pacquiao is no longer in his prime and it's better for him to just stay in exhibitions fight and earn money and not risk his health going back to 147 lbs and fight a prime Mario Barrios. Although they say that Barrios is the weakest of the 147 lbs, but still he is tall and he can put a serious damage on Pacquiao. So Pacquaio should stay away and I would agree that if he wanted to go for the money then a exhibition fight with Floyd is good.

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He won the 6 round fight but indeed the old Pacman is already old. This is an exhibition fight but we can still see how inefficient he may be if he fights Barrios who is a champ in the MW. It's a real boxing match or so they say as being flashed in the news.

I doubt he would win against Barrios too with such a performance. He used to hit easily with his left like it could extend further and still stun a fighter.
What is to be seen soon is if Floyd Mayweather can also do better against Gotti. If it looks fair to see Floyd and Pacman fight. It might just be a good exhibition all for money.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

I don't think he is short on money why he is doing the exhibition matches. It is more on the love for this sports. As we have seen, coming out of retirement, should not be an option for Pacquiao. Let the young blood take the stage of this sports and remain in the retirement arena. This is a brutal sports where stamina is needed to withstand the fight.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 28, 2024, 08:39:58 AM

- Honestly, Paquiao was disappointing in that exhibition. I can't say that the punches he unleashed on his opponent still had power because his opponent was able to sustain his punches.

So that means that Manny's punches are weak, so maybe he should retire. Maybe in every fight he does, he will lose, and the belts he worked hard for will go to someone who can beat him.

I watched the replay and I think age just caught up with Manny. Aside from being old, his opponent knows how to box and knows how to use his reach advantage. I saw several throws of Manny that were supposed to be hitting miss. That simply show that manny is overly cautious, thinking of defending even before his punches landed.

Aside from that the reach advantage of his opponent is evident. I think it would be a different performance if the fight happened when Manny was at his peak, this fight simply tells us that it is really time for Manny to retire.

Accept the fact that defending a professional belt these days is not anymore his forte. He will just ruin his legacy if he will fight for a professional belt and come out of retirement. We are seeing now that age really is catching up on him.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 29, 2024, 06:21:36 AM

These exhibition fights could be taken more seriously if the fighters involved fought seriously. In this fight between Rukiya Anpo and Manny Pacquiao, I thought that Manny Pacquiao would lose, because in my opinion Rukiya Anpo is younger, he is only 28 years old and is taller than Manny Pacquiao who has not fought for a long time, it was a good chance for Rukiya Anpo to win with the strength he has. But even so, Rukiya Anpo was unable to knock down Manny Pacquiao who is 45 years old, he is already an old guy. Honestly, it is hard not to laugh at this.

In my opinion, it was a seriously fought match. However, since it was only three rounds, there wasn't enough time for either boxer to score a knockout. Pacquiao struggled a lot in this fight, likely due to the height and size of his opponent and the age disparity as well. Overall, I think it was an entertaining fight, leaving us with the impression that Pacquiao might be past his prime but can still entertain the crowd. Despite Pacquiao's performance, he can still have future exhibition fights. Hopefully, he'll be careful in choosing his opponents so we won't see another David vs. Goliath scenario.

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How can a young fighter of 28 years old not be able to beat an old fighter of 45 years old? Grin

If it's only based on age, then that question is valid, but since Manny is a legend he cannot easily be knock out.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

These exhibition fights could be taken more seriously if the fighters involved fought seriously. In this fight between Rukiya Anpo and Manny Pacquiao, I thought that Manny Pacquiao would lose, because in my opinion Rukiya Anpo is younger, he is only 28 years old and is taller than Manny Pacquiao who has not fought for a long time, it was a good chance for Rukiya Anpo to win with the strength he has. But even so, Rukiya Anpo was unable to knock down Manny Pacquiao who is 45 years old, he is already an old guy. Honestly, it is hard not to laugh at this.

How can a young fighter of 28 years old not be able to beat an old fighter of 45 years old? Grin

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

IIRC, it's not him that asks for this kind of exhibition matches. He's just too kind accept them and at the same time, that money earned from these matches will go somewhere else which is better and not on his pocket. I agree with you that he should just retire and do all of his concerns, being a politician, owning a basketball league and watch out for new talents that he can mentor to become the next him. Likely his son Jimuel is on that path but it's hard to compare it to how colorful Manny's life and boxing career.

As for the match, I've watched a bit of it and it seems that he's controlling his punches. I'm not sure with that if he's caring for Anpo for every blow that he can make. But there seems to be an hesitation for every thrown punch he did. Well, still a successful contest and challenge even if it's an exhibition match, getting a draw against the people's champ is already a great achievement as a boxer.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

It's not about the money. He is a billionaire in his country and still very generous to the needy; it is the body's need, the smell of blood, and to hit and get hit.

Manny's mind cannot still process that the body cannot keep up anymore a bad beating will make him realize that its time for him to give up, but Manny should heed the call of the boxing community to hang up his gloves and call it over, even if this is an exhibition match people agaonize to see him gets a beating just like that at that age.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 29, 2024, 02:20:46 AM

So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

I've read in one article and he said that the exhibition between him is a good warm-up for his comeback.

I've watched the whole match and I would say that, his stamina is very limited, and I doubt that he will last a 12 round fight against a younger opponent. He fought a kickboxer, and he's having a hard time landing those punches to him. Yes, Anpo is taller but we've seen Pacquiao defeating taller fighters. It's a draw as expected, but if there's judges on it, I don't think that Manny will win. Anyway, there are some news in the past saying that Manny will make a comeback and try to get that welterweight title again against Mario Barrios. TBH, I don't see any legitimate reason for him to come back aside from the money since he has his own basketball league here in our country.

Manny Pacquiao Vs. Mario Barrios? I don't think that Manny will have a chance to defeat him. Like I said, his stamina isn't enough for a 12 round fight since he's 45 years old already. He can try, but I don't have a high expectation towards him.

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So its a draw after all. I have expected that. Even though it was an exhibition fight, Manny is very far from being what he was. So I fully agree with suggestion for him to hang out gloves. He has proved already a lot. If he is really short on money, better become a coach or give some private lessons. As to Anpo, hope he got some valuable experience from that fight.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 28, 2024, 10:18:33 AM

I watched the replay and I think age just caught up with Manny. Aside from being old, his opponent knows how to box and knows how to use his reach advantage. I saw several throws of Manny that were supposed to be hitting miss. That simply show that manny is overly cautious, thinking of defending even before his punches landed.

Aside from that the reach advantage of his opponent is evident. I think it would be a different performance if the fight happened when Manny was at his peak, this fight simply tells us that it is really time for Manny to retire.

Mario Barrios is listed on BoxRec as being 6 feet tall. If Pacquio struggled this much against a kickboxer, he would end up losing badly against a boxing champion, even if Barrios is considered an email champion. Pacquiao’s poor timing and inability to defend himself would make it a target practice for Barrios.

A return to professional boxing would be pointless for Pacquiao. He has already accomplished so much and should be satisfied with his legacy. It is always sad to see old legends being exploited for their name, like what is happening with Mike Tyson. Pacquiao can still retire with his dignity intact and focus on his other ventures, like his promotional company.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 28, 2024, 08:39:58 AM

- Honestly, Paquiao was disappointing in that exhibition. I can't say that the punches he unleashed on his opponent still had power because his opponent was able to sustain his punches.

So that means that Manny's punches are weak, so maybe he should retire. Maybe in every fight he does, he will lose, and the belts he worked hard for will go to someone who can beat him.

I watched the replay and I think age just caught up with Manny. Aside from being old, his opponent knows how to box and knows how to use his reach advantage. I saw several throws of Manny that were supposed to be hitting miss. That simply show that manny is overly cautious, thinking of defending even before his punches landed.

Aside from that the reach advantage of his opponent is evident. I think it would be a different performance if the fight happened when Manny was at his peak, this fight simply tells us that it is really time for Manny to retire.

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This is the highlight of the fight :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okl-1cqOWcg

It's only a three-rounder since it's a stoppage that can only score a win. The bout was declared a draw. I think Manny should finally retire. He had a hard time against Anpo, but on the other hand, Anpo could not even stop a guy half his age, but he had a good showing.

With this fight, I don't think the Mario Barrios fight should proceed as Pacquiao showed ageing in how he moves, and although there is still sting in his fight, it's not enough to seriously hurt an opponent.

Manny should realize that the body cannot keep up even if the mind says he still can, the boxing community do not want Pacquiao to get seriously hurt at his age.

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It was indeed tough to watch at times, with Pacquiao getting tagged again and again by Anpo, the tallest man Pac-Man has ever shared a ring with at 6ft. Pacquiao couldn’t find his range and he was picked off, sometimes by what appeared to be full-bloodied shots to the head and body. Pac-Man had his moments, flashes really, but he looked a faded force compared to what he once was. As fans have posted on social media, ‘Father Time remains unbeaten.’

Source: Results: Growing Calls For Manny Pacquiao To Hang Up Gloves After Tough Bout With Anpo - Latest Boxing News (https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/calls-for-manny-pacquiao-to-retire/280834)

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 09, 2024, 09:01:42 AM

Manny Pacquiao is back out of retirement and he will be up against Rukiya Anpo he is a replacement for Suzuki who suffered from injury, he is former K1 Super Lightweight (-65 kg) the fight will still be held on July 28 in Saitama, Japan

Anpo, 0-1 in MMA, holds a record of 27-8-1 as a professional kickboxer, scoring knockouts in 14 of his victories, winning and defending the K-1 super lightweight championship.

Do you think Manny Pacquiao still has what it takes to fight in the ring, this could be a tune fight to the match awaited Pacquiao - Mayweather2

Of course he still has it, and it will always be there. He still can go toe to toe with younger fighters as shown on his previous matches. But with this match, I guess this would be one sided if ever it will be an official one and not just an exhibition match. Boxing is a different sports as we all know; rounds are more in numbers and boxers are just having that resistance to be at an advantage of this. Will be exciting to watch given that these players are originally from different "worlds". But I guess it won't be worthy of placing a bet with since I'm expecting both of them to not go all out as sign of respect. Would be preferring Manny to fight Floyd for the second time because it is more of a bigger deal, however one fighter is just not okay making this possible which is quite unfortunate for the fans out here. But I will definitely be watching this bout between Manny and Rukiya.

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