Manny - Pacquiao VS Chihiro Suzuki Exhibition Match - page 4.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 30, 2024, 05:03:11 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 28, 2024, 09:02:37 PM

But the rule is boxing here, so even if he has the height advantage, I think Pacman will still win here. And it will not look good if the Japanese will allow Pacman to get robbed in an exhibition match? I mean this guy is a legend already and obviously Anpo is a quick replacement just to get this fight continue and not be cancelled. And if by chance Pacman gets robbed here, it will reverberate in the boxing community as he could be the highest profile boxer that has lost in a exhibition match thru robbery by the Japanese or who ever is the judges here.

Its exhibition boxing fight. Imho professional boxers care little about it. It is like a part time job for them. Even if Pacman gets robbed, viewers will still get entertained and Pacman gets his huge check. Since the fight will be in Japan, they might make it that "their local fighter wins". But since this isnt a professional fight, Pacman reputation and legacy wont get hurt. Imho the fight will go full distance for fans to have more entertainment, and if Pacman would not dominate, I wont be surprised if it will end by draw Cheesy

Yes its no bearing fight for professional fighters but for the fans watching it some people take those fight seriously since they are interested to see if Chihiro could able to defeat a legendary in this match up. We know that there would be less physicality in this fight but lots of fans still having a debate because they love to see Pacquiao win or either Chihiro inside of Japanese fans. In terms of individual professional records well nothing will happen to it even if one of them lose since its an exhibition fight.

But for accolades for sure people would remember that Chihiro once defeated a Legendary Pacman if he successfully defeat the legend on their upcoming exhibition match.

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If Pacman losses, true fans wont be disappointed, as they understand that his professional career and peak form has already gone, and they would be happy to see him one more time in the ring. Also I remember that Pacman has helped a lot of people with money he has earned. I am talking about that neighbourhood and all those houses he has built. If he would use money from that exhibition fight to help others, then I would not care if he lose or win. We should not worry about him anyway. He will either win, or he wont get a huge beating, since he is way to experience and this is exhibition fight. Ref and Pacman wont allow devastating knockout to happen Wink

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 30, 2024, 05:03:11 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 28, 2024, 09:02:37 PM

But the rule is boxing here, so even if he has the height advantage, I think Pacman will still win here. And it will not look good if the Japanese will allow Pacman to get robbed in an exhibition match? I mean this guy is a legend already and obviously Anpo is a quick replacement just to get this fight continue and not be cancelled. And if by chance Pacman gets robbed here, it will reverberate in the boxing community as he could be the highest profile boxer that has lost in a exhibition match thru robbery by the Japanese or who ever is the judges here.

Its exhibition boxing fight. Imho professional boxers care little about it. It is like a part time job for them. Even if Pacman gets robbed, viewers will still get entertained and Pacman gets his huge check. Since the fight will be in Japan, they might make it that "their local fighter wins". But since this isnt a professional fight, Pacman reputation and legacy wont get hurt. Imho the fight will go full distance for fans to have more entertainment, and if Pacman would not dominate, I wont be surprised if it will end by draw Cheesy

Yeah and even the lost will not reflect in their records, but still though, a legendary boxer losing to a non-pro boxer? It will be one of the biggest upset for this year. When Anderson Silva beats Chavez Jr as we all know that Chavez Jr i s a bust while Silva is a good striker. But here Anpo is not that well known, just have a couple of fights against the legendary Manny Pacquiao. And fans are going to be devastated if Manny losses here. Obviously win or lose Manny will got his money, but I'm sure he still have that pride in him that he wanted to win and will not accept defeat, much more in a exhibition fight like this.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 28, 2024, 09:02:37 PM

But the rule is boxing here, so even if he has the height advantage, I think Pacman will still win here. And it will not look good if the Japanese will allow Pacman to get robbed in an exhibition match? I mean this guy is a legend already and obviously Anpo is a quick replacement just to get this fight continue and not be cancelled. And if by chance Pacman gets robbed here, it will reverberate in the boxing community as he could be the highest profile boxer that has lost in a exhibition match thru robbery by the Japanese or who ever is the judges here.

Its exhibition boxing fight. Imho professional boxers care little about it. It is like a part time job for them. Even if Pacman gets robbed, viewers will still get entertained and Pacman gets his huge check. Since the fight will be in Japan, they might make it that "their local fighter wins". But since this isnt a professional fight, Pacman reputation and legacy wont get hurt. Imho the fight will go full distance for fans to have more entertainment, and if Pacman would not dominate, I wont be surprised if it will end by draw Cheesy

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Quote from: Zadicar on June 29, 2024, 04:59:12 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on June 28, 2024, 06:41:15 AM

There is a change of plans, Suzuki got injured, Lol, and so another Japanese fighter steps up, Rukiya Anpo.

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But Suzuki was forced to withdraw after breaking his hand and will be replaced by fellow Japanese mixed martial artist Rukiya Anpo.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/2024/6/28/pacquiao-gets-new-opponent-for-japan-exhibition-fight-1654

So I guess Suzuki was really training hard as he breaks his hand. But nothing has change, I think Manny is still going to win this exhibition fight against Anpo. And it could be worst if hasn't train yet.

So sad to hear out and this is indeed one of the risks of athletes/fighters when it comes to this kind of accidents on which it could really be causing up that postponement of their upcoming fights ,but well shit happens all the time. Good thing that the fight goes on but now in vs with Anpo. When it comes to exhibition fights then it wont matter on who would be the one will really be going up in the ring
because Pacquiao would really be still the winner on which in boxing rules with a legendary boxer? Then there would really be no doubt on who would win up.

And it's a blessing in disguise for someone, in this case, Rukiya Anpo, perhaps even more popular than Suzuki himself and that's why he was called to replaced him as Manny's new opponent. So it's more on a lost to Suzuki than Manny, as we all know that even if Manny is (semi)retired already, his name is still very much in boxing fans or even boxer themselves as it's their honor to face him in the ring.

But with what majority thinks here, Manny has a high chance to win in this fight. Anpo might be good, but he is facing Manny, fighter of the decade and during his prime, score a great victory to most of his opponents including a lot of legends.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 09, 2024, 09:01:42 AM

Manny Pacquiao is back out of retirement and he will be up against Rukiya Anpo he is a replacement for Suzuki who suffered from injury, he is former K1 Super Lightweight (-65 kg) the fight will still be held on July 28 in Saitama, Japan

Anpo, 0-1 in MMA, holds a record of 27-8-1 as a professional kickboxer, scoring knockouts in 14 of his victories, winning and defending the K-1 super lightweight championship.

Do you think Manny Pacquiao still has what it takes to fight in the ring, this could be a tune fight to the match awaited Pacquiao - Mayweather2

Wouldn't say he's out of retirement since he's pretty much hung his gloves for the professional leagues, and besides, this is an exhibition showmatch which doesn't really prove anything in any regard. It's unranked for one, is only 3 mins each round with 3 rounds of play, and there's no title nor glory to be had except bragging rights.

Feel like he just misses the thrill of boxing but is keeping his word of quitting for good, the man already gave so much to the sport and he deserves to have some form of rest and fun for his remaining years, and he's trying to stay sharp despite his age which is the reason why he's accepting show matches like this.

No doubt he still has what it takes to get into pro boxing should he decide to go back, but his age will definitely catch up to him and with the overall increase in skill and power of boxers nowadays it's going to be tough for him to defend titles or bag ones, that's why Floyd stayed out of it for years now. he's old and he's already proven himself to be one of the greats, getting back in the ring with the risk of tarnishing a perfect record is just going to be stupid.

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Quote from: Zadicar on June 29, 2024, 04:59:12 PM

So sad to hear out and this is indeed one of the risks of athletes/fighters when it comes to this kind of accidents on which it could really be causing up that postponement of their upcoming fights ,but well shit happens all the time. Good thing that the fight goes on but now in vs with Anpo.

That's the good news, but the excitement probably isn't the same anymore.

I don't think there's a difference. They're still training hard, even if it's just an exhibition match. It also depends on the opponent, and since it's Manny Pacquiao, who's known for being a heavy hitter, no boxer can just relax. They need to prepare to last, even if they have no chance of winning. It's too bad for Suzuki, but it was the right decision not to continue, as it would only aggravate the injury. At least they found a replacement, so we can still see this exhibition match with no judges.

Quote from: Zadicar on June 29, 2024, 04:59:12 PM

When it comes to exhibition fights then it wont matter on who would be the one will really be going up in the ring
because Pacquiao would really be still the winner on which in boxing rules with a legendary boxer? Then there would really be no doubt on who would win up.

On paper, we can't deny that the vote goes to Pacman. He's fighting an MMA fighter; what can we expect?

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 28, 2024, 06:41:15 AM

There is a change of plans, Suzuki got injured, Lol, and so another Japanese fighter steps up, Rukiya Anpo.

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But Suzuki was forced to withdraw after breaking his hand and will be replaced by fellow Japanese mixed martial artist Rukiya Anpo.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/2024/6/28/pacquiao-gets-new-opponent-for-japan-exhibition-fight-1654

So I guess Suzuki was really training hard as he breaks his hand. But nothing has change, I think Manny is still going to win this exhibition fight against Anpo. And it could be worst if hasn't train yet.

So sad to hear out and this is indeed one of the risks of athletes/fighters when it comes to this kind of accidents on which it could really be causing up that postponement of their upcoming fights ,but well shit happens all the time. Good thing that the fight goes on but now in vs with Anpo. When it comes to exhibition fights then it wont matter on who would be the one will really be going up in the ring
because Pacquiao would really be still the winner on which in boxing rules with a legendary boxer? Then there would really be no doubt on who would win up.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 28, 2024, 08:49:17 AM

Here is the pro record of Rukiya Anpo which is called as the "DEMOLITION MAN"

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/153637-rukiya-anpo

He had lots of wins in his pro career, but last December, he suffered a loss. However, since this fight will be held in Japan, I think it will be easy to market because the Japanese are big fans of Pacquiao. They will surely watch the fight and may even support him instead of their own fighter.

Lol, what a monicker, "Demolition Man" but he will be facing the Legend in Manny Pacquaio, the accolades along, 8 division champ might be enough for the Demolition man to fold, Grin

. And with the current status of the Japanese boxers who are enjoying a golden era with a lot of them becoming champion lead by Inoue, yeah, Japanese are crazy over boxer with the likes of Manny Pacquiao.

And I think that they can fill the stadium here because of Manny himself. And if I'm not mistaken, Manny is under Rizin, a big Japanese promoter who is very influential. So good for Rukiya to take Suzuki's place in this fight.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 28, 2024, 09:05:52 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on June 28, 2024, 06:41:15 AM

There is a change of plans, Suzuki got injured, Lol, and so another Japanese fighter steps up, Rukiya Anpo.

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But Suzuki was forced to withdraw after breaking his hand and will be replaced by fellow Japanese mixed martial artist Rukiya Anpo.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/2024/6/28/pacquiao-gets-new-opponent-for-japan-exhibition-fight-1654

So I guess Suzuki was really training hard as he breaks his hand. But nothing has change, I think Manny is still going to win this exhibition fight against Anpo. And it could be worst if hasn't train yet.

It is funny that month before fighting against Pacman, Suzuki was planning to have other fight, that has ended with a draw. How was he planning to face Pacman? Though that he would beat Takanori Gomi without taking any damage and with first punch? No wonder 1 month isnt enough to recover, so he withdrew from the fight.

That Rukiya is crazy either. He had a fight several weeks ago, and in 1 month fights against Pacman. That isnt serious. He is just going to fight, without a goal to win imho.

Anyway, their fight is going to be a freak show. I have looked on Rukiya record, and he has beaten Cyril Abidi last year by TKO punches in exhibition kickboxing fight. A featherweight with a height of 184cm and 70kg, beats heavyweight with 190cm and +107kg ? How come he even get to punching distance if his opponent has reach advantage, is heavier. And was rather good in K1. I would not be surprised, if Pacman would get robbed.

But the rule is boxing here, so even if he has the height advantage, I think Pacman will still win here. And it will not look good if the Japanese will allow Pacman to get robbed in an exhibition match? I mean this guy is a legend already and obviously Anpo is a quick replacement just to get this fight continue and not be cancelled. And if by chance Pacman gets robbed here, it will reverberate in the boxing community as he could be the highest profile boxer that has lost in a exhibition match thru robbery by the Japanese or who ever is the judges here.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 28, 2024, 06:41:15 AM

There is a change of plans, Suzuki got injured, Lol, and so another Japanese fighter steps up, Rukiya Anpo.

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But Suzuki was forced to withdraw after breaking his hand and will be replaced by fellow Japanese mixed martial artist Rukiya Anpo.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/2024/6/28/pacquiao-gets-new-opponent-for-japan-exhibition-fight-1654

So I guess Suzuki was really training hard as he breaks his hand. But nothing has change, I think Manny is still going to win this exhibition fight against Anpo. And it could be worst if hasn't train yet.

It is funny that month before fighting against Pacman, Suzuki was planning to have other fight, that has ended with a draw. How was he planning to face Pacman? Though that he would beat Takanori Gomi without taking any damage and with first punch? No wonder 1 month isnt enough to recover, so he withdrew from the fight.

That Rukiya is crazy either. He had a fight several weeks ago, and in 1 month fights against Pacman. That isnt serious. He is just going to fight, without a goal to win imho.

Anyway, their fight is going to be a freak show. I have looked on Rukiya record, and he has beaten Cyril Abidi last year by TKO punches in exhibition kickboxing fight. A featherweight with a height of 184cm and 70kg, beats heavyweight with 190cm and +107kg ? How come he even get to punching distance if his opponent has reach advantage, is heavier. And was rather good in K1. I would not be surprised, if Pacman would get robbed.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on June 28, 2024, 08:48:06 AM

- I think that Manny Paquiao still has the advantage to win against Rukiya Anpo. Maybe if it's kickboxing, I'll bet on Rukiya, but if it's boxing, only Paquiao will immediately hit the pressure punch there. And just the punch level, for sure, when Anpo was there, Paquiao could catch that.

Most of the popular exhibition fights now are in boxing. An MMA fighter versus a legandary boxer, you'll already know who has the edge. We can call it as a big edge for Manny, but I like him, he is good in entertaining the crowd, so Anpo should not take this fight lightly, he had to train as hard as he can but please don't allow himself to get injured as he is just a replacement fight, if he'll get injured, I'm afraid the fight will be cancelled.

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on June 28, 2024, 08:48:06 AM

Then they only have one more fight without judges until round 3. It's really just an exhibition. Then Chichiro should be the one who can fight him, so because he is said to still have an injury, that's why they replaced Anpo.

I haven't read the full rules of the fight, but usually when it's an exhibition fight, it doesn't need to be serious, sometimes it's even scripted as its purpose is just to entertain the crowd.

Manny just doing an exhibition fights maybe at least twice a year, it would already bring him a lot of money because of his popularity.

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Here is the pro record of Rukiya Anpo which is called as the "DEMOLITION MAN"

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/153637-rukiya-anpo

He had lots of wins in his pro career, but last December, he suffered a loss. However, since this fight will be held in Japan, I think it will be easy to market because the Japanese are big fans of Pacquiao. They will surely watch the fight and may even support him instead of their own fighter.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 09, 2024, 09:01:42 AM

Manny Pacquiao is back out of retirement and he will be up against Rukiya Anpo he is a replacement for Suzuki who suffered from injury, he is former K1 Super Lightweight (-65 kg) the fight will still be held on July 28 in Saitama, Japan

Anpo, 0-1 in MMA, holds a record of 27-8-1 as a professional kickboxer, scoring knockouts in 14 of his victories, winning and defending the K-1 super lightweight championship.

Do you think Manny Pacquiao still has what it takes to fight in the ring, this could be a tune fight to the match awaited Pacquiao - Mayweather2

- I think that Manny Paquiao still has the advantage to win against Rukiya Anpo. Maybe if it's kickboxing, I'll bet on Rukiya, but if it's boxing, only Paquiao will immediately hit the pressure punch there. And just the punch level, for sure, when Anpo was there, Paquiao could catch that.

Then they only have one more fight without judges until round 3. It's really just an exhibition. Then Chichiro should be the one who can fight him, so because he is said to still have an injury, that's why they replaced Anpo.

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Quote from: Questat on June 28, 2024, 07:45:50 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on June 28, 2024, 06:41:15 AM

There is a change of plans, Suzuki got injured, Lol, and so another Japanese fighter steps up, Rukiya Anpo.

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But Suzuki was forced to withdraw after breaking his hand and will be replaced by fellow Japanese mixed martial artist Rukiya Anpo.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/2024/6/28/pacquiao-gets-new-opponent-for-japan-exhibition-fight-1654

So I guess Suzuki was really training hard as he breaks his hand. But nothing has change, I think Manny is still going to win this exhibition fight against Anpo. And it could be worst if hasn't train yet.

Maybe he realized he couldn't win against Pacman and faked his injury? Just kidding...

It's good that there's a replacement so the fight won't be canceled. At least they can still make money. However, the outlook on the fight hasn't changed much. I'm sure everyone here thinks Manny can win easily, even if it's just an exhibition fight.

I think @coin-investor should also update the thread title.

LOL, but that's also what I'm thinking, Suzuki knows that he will be hurt in this fight even though this is just an exhibition fight. But at least it's better that they have found a replacement fighting very quick. Having seen the record of Anpo though, who knows, maybe he is that good and deserving of a match with Manny Pacquiao.

The title has been updated already.

And I do agree that there is no cancellation like the Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul fight. Also it doesn't change a thing as we all know that Manny is very competitive and will not let this exhibition fight elude him as this could be just a preview of him and Floyd in the future.

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Quote from: Questat on June 28, 2024, 07:45:50 AM

It's good that there's a replacement so the fight won't be canceled. At least they can still make money. However, the outlook on the fight hasn't changed much. I'm sure everyone here thinks Manny can win easily, even if it's just an exhibition fight.

I think @coin-investor should also update the thread title.

Yes I have updated the title of the thread including the information Rukiya is also a worthy opponent with an impressive record as a professional kickboxer

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Anpo, 0-1 in MMA, holds a record of 27-8-1 as a professional kickboxer, scoring knockouts in 14 of his victories, winning and defending the K-1 super lightweight championship.

Honestly, I prefer Chihiro because of how he disrespects Manny Pacquiao, but still, Manny should watch out for this guy. He can pull an upset if he thinks this is a much easier opponent, though it is an exhibition match he should also show seriousness here.
After this fight, there's a possibility of Pacquiao going back to professional boxing he is in talks with Mario Barrios camp, but so much depends on the outcome of this exhibition fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 28, 2024, 06:41:15 AM

There is a change of plans, Suzuki got injured, Lol, and so another Japanese fighter steps up, Rukiya Anpo.

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But Suzuki was forced to withdraw after breaking his hand and will be replaced by fellow Japanese mixed martial artist Rukiya Anpo.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/2024/6/28/pacquiao-gets-new-opponent-for-japan-exhibition-fight-1654

So I guess Suzuki was really training hard as he breaks his hand. But nothing has change, I think Manny is still going to win this exhibition fight against Anpo. And it could be worst if hasn't train yet.

Maybe he realized he couldn't win against Pacman and faked his injury? Just kidding...

It's good that there's a replacement so the fight won't be canceled. At least they can still make money. However, the outlook on the fight hasn't changed much. I'm sure everyone here thinks Manny can win easily, even if it's just an exhibition fight.

I think @coin-investor should also update the thread title.

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There is a change of plans, Suzuki got injured, Lol, and so another Japanese fighter steps up, Rukiya Anpo.

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But Suzuki was forced to withdraw after breaking his hand and will be replaced by fellow Japanese mixed martial artist Rukiya Anpo.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/2024/6/28/pacquiao-gets-new-opponent-for-japan-exhibition-fight-1654

So I guess Suzuki was really training hard as he breaks his hand. But nothing has change, I think Manny is still going to win this exhibition fight against Anpo. And it could be worst if hasn't train yet.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 27, 2024, 08:35:24 PM

Quote from: Viscore on June 22, 2024, 06:49:43 AM

This is not a professional fight; Manny might make an exception here. Honestly, I think these exhibition fights could be rigged since promoters cannot make it look like a pro fight that could result in a serious injury to one boxer, as there might be complaints and the government could stop these kinds of fights. They aren't carefully evaluated to determine if both boxers are really capable and fit during the fight compared to the professional fight where all measures are done to ensure that both have the same weight and prepared to fight.

Although this is only an exhibition match, i think all the safety measures are in place and i think there are people who are in charge so as to prevent injuries to both fighters.

I don't think that Manny Pacquiao could hurt Suzuki as he is not the Manny Pacquaio that fought Barrera or Cotto anymore, though he still have some moves left but that is not enough to hurt Suzuki and so is the latter, i don't think he could hurt Manny in this fight.

But still, it's boxing and so Suzuki will have to go and fight and try to punch Pacman in the face and we all know that it is going to hurt and so you have to return back. So the intention is still there to hurt the other party and win. Or even Pacman is not going to go full 100%, still at half of it, Suzuki can feel the power of the Pacman here.

At the end of the day though, it's all for the money and for the fans, and if I'm not mistaken, this is Manny's second fight in exhibition and could get the hang of it by not throwing power in his punch to not hurt a less experience boxer in Suzuki

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Quote from: Viscore on June 22, 2024, 06:49:43 AM

This is not a professional fight; Manny might make an exception here. Honestly, I think these exhibition fights could be rigged since promoters cannot make it look like a pro fight that could result in a serious injury to one boxer, as there might be complaints and the government could stop these kinds of fights. They aren't carefully evaluated to determine if both boxers are really capable and fit during the fight compared to the professional fight where all measures are done to ensure that both have the same weight and prepared to fight.

Although this is only an exhibition match, i think all the safety measures are in place and i think there are people who are in charge so as to prevent injuries to both fighters.

I don't think that Manny Pacquiao could hurt Suzuki as he is not the Manny Pacquaio that fought Barrera or Cotto anymore, though he still have some moves left but that is not enough to hurt Suzuki and so is the latter, i don't think he could hurt Manny in this fight.

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