Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20 - page 23.

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This is not good for Thurman. Pacman has his own trash-talking spokesperson in Roach and we all know how credible he is when he talks about speed or the lack of it for Thurman. This could affect the betting (already started) and we could only win small when we bet for the Pacman as he is becoming the heavy favorite on this match.

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Quote from: Saisher on July 02, 2019, 10:15:24 PM

Quote from: mich on July 02, 2019, 09:33:33 PM

Quote from: Zicadis on July 02, 2019, 05:59:02 PM

Quote from: harizen on July 02, 2019, 05:55:23 PM

Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

Keith Thurman isn't really a huge name, and his previous fight was with Adrian Broner, who I think is signed by TMT.

Based on that alone there probably isn't as much money being poured into advertising the event, and they can probably tell based on how many seats were sold.

If that number was pretty low, then they can see demand is low and hence will need to lower the PPV price to compensate.

This is interesting because the price is still normal pay per view pricing for me so it must all depend on where you live
With this match set to take place in less then three weeks we will start to see more promoting for the event.
If you are wondering about the ticket sales I just checked the website https://tix.axs.com and there are still cheap seats available which means tickets are not selling too well

It's still 17 days to go it will be filled soon, but yeah this fight is not getting a lot of hype when it should be because this is Manny's biggest test so far after a big comeback from his loss to an Australian guy this is the biggest challenge to Manny Pacquiao because he has not fought a boxer like this in the last two years.

Nice analysis. Yes, this will be Manny's biggest test so far. As we all know that Thurman is young and have a big puncher like himself.

I think it is gathering steam specially in the Philippines where Pacquiao is a senator and their national hero. Thurman is doing his share as well, hyping and having interview with press people to get some noise and of course so that they're be interested to watch the fight either PPV or live.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on July 02, 2019, 11:12:22 PM

Quote from: harizen on July 02, 2019, 05:55:23 PM

Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

The hype isn't that much so it's a good strategy to lower the PPV so that they can get more subscribers. I believe they know, they won't get many subscribers as before if they will put it the same price as before. Sure thing if it was Manny Vs Crawford they will make it higher again. It's all about hype.

Manny Pacquiao can still draw crowds even if he is not the same fighter we witnessed years ago. He can still a lot of casual fans in the seat. However, the issue here is the opponent his facing right now. Broner's name is more appealing to boxing fans, as opposed to Thurman who is not that hype a fighter. Obviously he is doing his best. But for Filipino fans this is good news, as the price is really affordable and you can watch it at the comfort of your own home, and not on crowded bars or something.

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Quote from: harizen on July 02, 2019, 05:55:23 PM

Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

The hype isn't that much so it's a good strategy to lower the PPV so that they can get more subscribers. I believe they know, they won't get many subscribers as before if they will put it the same price as before. Sure thing if it was Manny Vs Crawford they will make it higher again. It's all about hype.

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Quote from: harizen on July 02, 2019, 05:55:23 PM

Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

Or probably wanted the price to be cheap so that there average boxing fans can buy PPV?

Or it's just Thurman is not a household name even in the US, that's why they can't command high PPV because the US fighter is just the B-side on this fight? Although initially he is favored by we don't know, as we get closer, the odds could shift to Manny.

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Quote from: harizen on July 02, 2019, 05:55:23 PM

Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

That is how they do it.

They will be getting that "promo" so people would watch and obviously, pay for the PPV. Filipinos support Manny so much that there are a lot of places you can watch the fight. Even the most trafficked road in our town will not be that traffic at that time because all will be having their eyes on Pacquiao stepping his foot again on the ring with Thurman.

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Quote from: mich on July 02, 2019, 09:33:33 PM

Quote from: Zicadis on July 02, 2019, 05:59:02 PM

Quote from: harizen on July 02, 2019, 05:55:23 PM

Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

Keith Thurman isn't really a huge name, and his previous fight was with Adrian Broner, who I think is signed by TMT.

Based on that alone there probably isn't as much money being poured into advertising the event, and they can probably tell based on how many seats were sold.

If that number was pretty low, then they can see demand is low and hence will need to lower the PPV price to compensate.

This is interesting because the price is still normal pay per view pricing for me so it must all depend on where you live
With this match set to take place in less then three weeks we will start to see more promoting for the event.
If you are wondering about the ticket sales I just checked the website https://tix.axs.com and there are still cheap seats available which means tickets are not selling too well

It's still 17 days to go it will be filled soon, but yeah this fight is not getting a lot of hype when it should be because this is Manny's biggest test so far after a big comeback from his loss to an Australian guy this is the biggest challenge to Manny Pacquiao because he has not fought a boxer like this in the last two years.

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Quote from: Zicadis on July 02, 2019, 05:59:02 PM

Quote from: harizen on July 02, 2019, 05:55:23 PM

Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

Keith Thurman isn't really a huge name, and his previous fight was with Adrian Broner, who I think is signed by TMT.

Based on that alone there probably isn't as much money being poured into advertising the event, and they can probably tell based on how many seats were sold.

If that number was pretty low, then they can see demand is low and hence will need to lower the PPV price to compensate.

This is interesting because the price is still normal pay per view pricing for me so it must all depend on where you live
With this match set to take place in less then three weeks we will start to see more promoting for the event.
If you are wondering about the ticket sales I just checked the website https://tix.axs.com and there are still cheap seats available which means tickets are not selling too well

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Quote from: jakelyson on July 01, 2019, 04:51:08 PM

When he was at his peak, there is no one in the Philippines willing to bet against him. But recently, there are some who are willing to bet and ready to place a large amount against Pacquiao.

There are still people who are betting against Manny Pacquiao but they are only betting because of the odds, I know some places in our hometown that doing such a bet, but there are odds, like 100/60. 100- Manny Pacquiao, 60- Keith Thurman. There are also 100/70, it really depends.

If these kinds of odds on local, I'll really go against Manny Pacquiao on this even with small bet only.
Those gambling place or authority are also trusted since some of them are a group of people or business establishment that has a good reputation in terms of gambling, just like Billiards sports gambling , cock fighting gambling, etc.

What kind of odds is that, that's really confusing. Does it mean 1.60 and 1.70 for Pacman and Thurman respectively?

Nope, for example, you are betting on Manny Pacquiao for $100, then the opposite person will only bet for Keith Thurman for just $60 versus of your $100.
It's something like, Manny Pacquiao - 1.60 for 2.665 for Keith Thurman?? Something like that.

Correct me if I'm wrong. If you bet on Keith Thurman, your $60, will become $160. And if you bet on Manny Pacquiao, your $100 will only become $160, if win.

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Quote from: harizen on July 02, 2019, 05:55:23 PM

Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

Keith Thurman isn't really a huge name, and his previous fight was with Adrian Broner, who I think is signed by TMT.

Based on that alone there probably isn't as much money being poured into advertising the event, and they can probably tell based on how many seats were sold.

If that number was pretty low, then they can see demand is low and hence will need to lower the PPV price to compensate.

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Looks like this fight needs some more hype.

In every Pacquaio's PPV match here provided by my Cable company, the average price is around $25-$30.

On July 21 fight, the price is just ranging to $18-$20. What just happened.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 01, 2019, 08:52:46 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on July 01, 2019, 06:23:01 PM

P2P betting, this kind of setup will also work for someone who wants to bet directly with other people. $1k seems huge for me and is this for the upcoming fight or this came from the past fights? handicap and plus can also be applied with this kind of betting.

It was the first Bradley fight, I bet for Manny for there are people who go against him and put a big bet of around $1K, it was huge as Manny lost a controversial decision the first time. And the funny thing is, after the fight, the winners bought some beers around and then we started the never ending debate that night. Grin

At least your opponent included you to the treat haha.

Quote from: crairezx20 on July 02, 2019, 09:41:11 AM

Anyway, I believe that Manny Pacquiao will win this game again.

I still believe in him and will support him all the way for this fight. Few days from now we've got to witness another great fight. I want him to watch on his full attitude anger on the ring base on what his point of view about Thurman's word towards him.

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It's already July so I'm sure a lot of you are really very excited to see the fight and so is the publicity and trash talking.

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BoxingScene.com: Is he a guy style-wise that you can not only win against, but get out of there and look impressive against?

Keith Thurman: Of course we want to look good defeating Manny Pacquiao. The less credit he gets the more credit I get. The more credit he gets the less credit I get. It’s a real fight. We’re fighting for status. We’re fighting for history. We’re fighting for legacy. We’re fighting for world titles. And I want to make a statement. So I believe that with my ring knowledge and the way that I’ve boxed throughout the years, I just believe that Manny Pacquiao’s style was never a good style against my style. And I plan on proving that and just going toe to toe and testing him, man to man. I really don’t think that Manny Pacquiao is going to take my talent. I am looking for a KO. We’ll see if he can survive.

https://www.boxingscene.com/thurman-im-looking-ko-well-see-if-pacquiao-survive--140508

The more he open his mouth, the more people are betting against him, Lol. Looking for a KO? that is he Manny will give him that opportunity, Manny's defense is under-rated because we seen his only side of offensive firepower. However, I think Manny is very smart fighter specially his defense as well, he can defend and then at the same time throw that left.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on July 01, 2019, 07:54:44 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on July 01, 2019, 04:51:08 PM

When he was at his peak, there is no one in the Philippines willing to bet against him. But recently, there are some who are willing to bet and ready to place a large amount against Pacquiao.

There are still people who are betting against Manny Pacquiao but they are only betting because of the odds, I know some places in our hometown that doing such a bet, but there are odds, like 100/60. 100- Manny Pacquiao, 60- Keith Thurman. There are also 100/70, it really depends.

If these kinds of odds on local, I'll really go against Manny Pacquiao on this even with small bet only.
Those gambling place or authority are also trusted since some of them are a group of people or business establishment that has a good reputation in terms of gambling, just like Billiards sports gambling , cock fighting gambling, etc.

What kind of odds is that, that's really confusing. Does it mean 1.60 and 1.70 for Pacman and Thurman respectively?

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on July 01, 2019, 07:54:44 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on July 01, 2019, 04:51:08 PM

When he was at his peak, there is no one in the Philippines willing to bet against him. But recently, there are some who are willing to bet and ready to place a large amount against Pacquiao.

There are still people who are betting against Manny Pacquiao but they are only betting because of the odds, I know some places in our hometown that doing such a bet, but there are odds, like 100/60. 100- Manny Pacquiao, 60- Keith Thurman. There are also 100/70, it really depends.

If these kinds of odds on local, I'll really go against Manny Pacquiao on this even with small bet only.
Those gambling place or authority are also trusted since some of them are a group of people or business establishment that has a good reputation in terms of gambling, just like Billiards sports gambling , cock fighting gambling, etc.

In early bets you can get good odds for Manny Pacquiao than Thurman but right now it looks like Pacman odds drop a lot and increase odds for Thurman.

If you bet early you can get a good odds for Manny but right now the odds are too low compared on the first announcement in any sports betting site.

Anyway, I believe that Manny Pacquiao will win this game again.

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Quote from: btc78 on July 02, 2019, 08:18:42 AM

I doubt Floyd will face any boxer again as he declared formally that he is retired and even meet Manny for advertisement early this year in Philippines

If the price is right, Floyd will fight anyone who can help him generate millions of dollars just like what he earned from his fights with Manny and Conor. At this point, only Floyd and Pacman 2 can come close to those fights.

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Quote from: asu on June 30, 2019, 09:01:34 PM

Quote from: rodel caling on June 30, 2019, 05:54:14 PM

Nice thought mate and nice choice we should know thurman is young boxer and strong but we knows the power punch of pacman even if he is 10 years older, but really believes this fight manny(pacman) get wiin by knockout decision.

Fight for;
Undefeated young vs Living Legend Pacquiao, the same as Floyd Mayweather (Undefeated) vs Manny Pacquiao = what a coincidence.

If Thurman fight manny face to face without using the ring as like a running obstacle maybe Manny can beat him in good way,since that’s not how mayweather do when he fought Manny few years ago

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What if manny defeat thurman? does we can see another fight for floyd and manny?

I doubt Floyd will face any boxer again as he declared formally that he is retired and even meet Manny for advertisement early this year in Philippines

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Quote from: stadus on June 30, 2019, 10:34:29 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 30, 2019, 10:17:22 PM

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Don't make things complicated, you can bet with your friends and other people whom you think can be trusted, of course don't risk a big amount here as sportsbook is more secured with bigger amount of money.

You are making things complicated here, not me. I had posted out of my own experience. I have seen fist-fights between close friends, because there was an argument over an informal bet. It is not about whether you trust someone or not. Why you want to do this informally, when it can be done through legal channels? I know that any chance of some argument arising is quite small. But it is a risk that I would never take.

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Quote from: darklus123 on July 01, 2019, 08:14:20 PM

Now officially the tables have turned from Pacman being the underdog now he is still the favorite, currently according to
https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/boxing/

Pacman is the new favorite for this fight having -120 over Thurman's +100. It seems that after the several media cover of Pacman's training there might be analysts or bettors who found out that Pacman might still have that power and can actually defeat Thurman. I am not so sure about it but I think one thing that also have boosted the current situation was because of the Mexican fighter statement. This now makes the fight more and more interesting.

Read the full article here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/07/01/why-manny-pacquiao-has-surged-in-latest-odds-and-is-now-the-favorite-over-keith-thurman/#3408e400696e

As the fight getting closer it will be a good twist with gamblers who are looking for this news, now the betting side will be much exciting gamblers who
bets previously for Manny when he still the underdog have a much higher odds than those who wait for this timing and waits for more updates regarding to this fight, Manny still have what he've got from this sport so might be the reason why bookers are placing this odds now.

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Quote from: Maslate on July 01, 2019, 03:09:43 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on July 01, 2019, 12:45:32 AM

Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

I could risk that level of amount outside sportsbook, but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet if you also are rooting for Pacman to win, best choose is just sportsbook, no hassle and not risk.

Yes, Philippines is predominantly Pacquiao, but there are still who loves to bet against him.

Quote from: sunsilk on July 01, 2019, 06:23:01 PM

P2P betting, this kind of setup will also work for someone who wants to bet directly with other people. $1k seems huge for me and is this for the upcoming fight or this came from the past fights? handicap and plus can also be applied with this kind of betting.

It was the first Bradley fight, I bet for Manny for there are people who go against him and put a big bet of around $1K, it was huge as Manny lost a controversial decision the first time. And the funny thing is, after the fight, the winners bought some beers around and then we started the never ending debate that night. Grin

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