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A few days back, there was an article in the Forbes explaining why the odds have become better for Manny Pacquiao. You can access the article for free here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/07/01/why-manny-pacquiao-has-surged-in-latest-odds-and-is-now-the-favorite-over-keith-thurman/

Many of the betting sites think that the fight will be very close and there is a realistic chance that Manny will be able to KO Keith Thurman. Meanwhile Freddie Roach (trainer of Manny) has guaranteed a knockout against Thurman.
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It will be an exciting battle in the world of competition in 2019. KEITH THURMAN's ambition to defeat MANNY was seen at THE HILLS HOTEL at his press conference. But whatever the statement is, all the evidence is in the ring. MANNY can certainly handle it.  Grin Grin Grin

I'm expecting he'll handle Thurman easily as Thurman will have a hard time throwing the best punch to Pacman as Pacman is still fast.
The line changes is already a big evidence that despite of the age of Pacman, people still believes he can beat this younger opponent of his.
Most of the predictions favors pacman, even the celebrities in boxing who knows the sports better.
The last time I checked, you're not the judge for the fight and I wonder why you're sure that Thurman will have a hard time throwing his best punches to Pacman when his plan to tease Pacman around the ring for the better chances.


I'm just a fan that has put too much confident on Pacman, so I believe he will handle Thurman easily in this fight, if I'm wrong, then be it.  Tongue
There's nothing bad in been confident in a fighter you love but we mustn't ignore the fact boxing is just a sport cause the two fighters also put their body on the line and both fighters are still a winner until the final conclusion.



Dont be too excited because of Freddie Roach statement.

They hype pacman and I got hype, I have no problem with as I saw pacman prove us many times that he is a great fighter and can still dominate.
He can't be an 8 time division champion if he is no dominating, Thurman has still more to prove, so hopefully I'm wrong so you are right.
Yes, Thurman still has more to proof but he has proved a lot through his previous fight against huge numbers of opponents which are a big threat for him and this is the reason why he also chooses Pacman which is faster than him.



The last time I checked, you're not the judge for the fight and I wonder why you're sure that Thurman will have a hard time throwing his best punches to Pacman when his plan to tease Pacman around the ring for the better chances.
Dont be too excited because of Freddie Roach statement.
Freddie Roach knowledge about boxing is exceptional so if he says something, it has substance. I remember the time when he said that Oscar De la Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore, it's true and When he said that Thurman is slow, i just realize that it could be true and just put my money on the Pacman.
I can't argue anymore with that because he was his best coach before Pacman dump him because of not helping him when he got lost to Mayweather. But his statement is something that you might don't wanna mess because he knows what the other boxers weak spot and strong spot. At least he gave something before the fight happens, but let the fighters decide how they will gonna show what they've got in the ring.
I respect Roach for all his achievement and records but his statement definitely not going to make Pacman the winner of the fight but the boost his confidence and also some kind of speculation which will lead to more bucks for the fighters.
Speaking of the weak and strong spot, don't you know that Thurman trainer is also not a newbie in this game.


17 days left and we will know the winner between Manny Pacquaio and  Keth Thurman. Many bet will happen in the different country . I want to share when Manny have fight Metro Manila have no criminical case on the day during Manny's fight. Many Filipino are really love Manny and we support him even he lose or win but Im strongly Im sure he win this fight.
I've watched this fact on youtube and it's very interesting that the whole country spend their time of showing support to Manny through watching. And isn't it amazing that the crime rate goes to zero when he fights.

How he'd wish that he has fight everyday so that crime rates will go to zero but he's a human, needs to rest and needs to take time for himself.

The last time I checked, you're not the judge for the fight and I wonder why you're sure that Thurman will have a hard time throwing his best punches to Pacman when his plan to tease Pacman around the ring for the better chances.
Dont be too excited because of Freddie Roach statement.
Freddie Roach knowledge about boxing is exceptional so if he says something, it has substance. I remember the time when he said that Oscar De la Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore, it's true and When he said that Thurman is slow, i just realize that it could be true and just put my money on the Pacman.
I'm not updated with this statement coming from Roach but I guess, everyone will start changing their pick now from Thurman to Pacman.
I don't argue with you on this but if you look it closely the purpose of the statement made by Roach is to change peoples thought towards Pacman as the winner of the fight but it won't save Pacman from Thurman punches.


The last time I checked, you're not the judge for the fight and I wonder why you're sure that Thurman will have a hard time throwing his best punches to Pacman when his plan to tease Pacman around the ring for the better chances.
Dont be too excited because of Freddie Roach statement.
Freddie Roach knowledge about boxing is exceptional so if he says something, it has substance. I remember the time when he said that Oscar De la Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore, it's true and When he said that Thurman is slow, i just realize that it could be true and just put my money on the Pacman.
Speaking of Oscar De la Hoya he was the most popular fighter in his prime and he knows he's not fit to fight anymore but did face Pacman because of the money involved just like Pacman did when he faced Maywather.
meanwhile, Oscar De La Hoya switching his longtime trainer is enough to make Pacman defeat him then.
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They’ve just playing and trading trashtalks to gain a lot of popularity. It’s definitely for their fight to hoard lot of viewers and to sold out early. In boxing it really needs hype before the fight starts because huge money is involved here. But yeah, manny pacquaio quite knows a lot in the boxing world so their fight would be interesting and fun to watch.
It can be like that but there's an intense feeling coming from the people's champ and sure it has brought a lot of attention. Does anyone knows if the tickets on MGM is already sold out?

Manny Pacquiao speed, power of punch, experienced and extreme training for a 40years old “Living Legend” A lot of videos in youtube uploaded how hard manny pacquiao training does have for a 40yo. A gift to us in the philippines that manny power have.

AFAIK there’s still left, tried it for PL5 $300.00 it count and asking for the payment.

Ticket Prices
  • PL1 $1500.00
  • PL2 $1000.00
  • PL3 $750.00
  • PL4 $500.00
  • PL5 $300.00
https://mgmgrand.mgmresorts.com/en/entertainment/pacquiao-vs-thurman.html
Thanks for the stats, I thought that its already sold out unlike his matches before, far from the scheduled dated the tickets were already sold out.

As for the age, well he is training much and working hard for each of the fight that he has. I'm amazed to the dedication that he is showing as recently I've seen a photo of him and Marquez. He has maintained his body well and now, Marquez has a big changed if someone here haven't seen that recent photo. Well, Manny is still doing well and age is just a number for him I guess.
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They’ve just playing and trading trashtalks to gain a lot of popularity. It’s definitely for their fight to hoard lot of viewers and to sold out early. In boxing it really needs hype before the fight starts because huge money is involved here. But yeah, manny pacquaio quite knows a lot in the boxing world so their fight would be interesting and fun to watch.
It can be like that but there's an intense feeling coming from the people's champ and sure it has brought a lot of attention. Does anyone knows if the tickets on MGM is already sold out?

Manny Pacquiao speed, power of punch, experienced and extreme training for a 40years old “Living Legend” A lot of videos in youtube uploaded how hard manny pacquiao training does have for a 40yo. A gift to us in the philippines that manny power have.

AFAIK there’s still left, tried it for PL5 $300.00 it count and asking for the payment.

Ticket Prices
  • PL1 $1500.00
  • PL2 $1000.00
  • PL3 $750.00
  • PL4 $500.00
  • PL5 $300.00
https://mgmgrand.mgmresorts.com/en/entertainment/pacquiao-vs-thurman.html
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
Manny has fought bigger fighter in the past and used his advantage which is the speed very well. If Thurman decide to came big come fight time, the slower than Heinz ketchup which Roach stated is very evident. He should at least match the speed of Manny if he want to win this fight. Remember Brandon Rios, which cried after the fight because he can't even touch Manny  Grin.
Lol, at that ketchup comment by Roach. But remember when Pacman was fighting bigger guys, his still at his prime. Thurman doesn't have the hand speed though, maybe he could go at some point toe to toe with Pacman, but I think Pacman is wise enough and will just take his sweet spot to hit Thurman, just like what he did to Brandon Rios.

He's wise enough. With a lot of experience in his gloves, Manny Pacquiao, despite the age gap can win this match. He may not be in his prime anymore but he still the knowledge, the will to fight that is the reason he is still going. That is the reason why he is so mad at Thurman. Thurman said he wants to end Manny's career, and to Manny, that is a low blow. He's mad, he wants to win and he will, I guess this will be a knockout if Thurman did not step up at Rounds 1 to 4.
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
Manny has fought bigger fighter in the past and used his advantage which is the speed very well. If Thurman decide to came big come fight time, the slower than Heinz ketchup which Roach stated is very evident. He should at least match the speed of Manny if he want to win this fight. Remember Brandon Rios, which cried after the fight because he can't even touch Manny  Grin.
Lol, at that ketchup comment by Roach. But remember when Pacman was fighting bigger guys, his still at his prime. Thurman doesn't have the hand speed though, maybe he could go at some point toe to toe with Pacman, but I think Pacman is wise enough and will just take his sweet spot to hit Thurman, just like what he did to Brandon Rios.
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It's not a trash talk but it's a counter statement. Remember who started talking like that? it's Thurman and that pissed Manny and coach Freddie Roach is just countering his statement and giving his opinion. Nothing wrong with that but yeah, sure it's meaningful and funny at the same time.

Did Thurman replied to those words already?

They’ve just playing and trading trashtalks to gain a lot of popularity. It’s definitely for their fight to hoard lot of viewers and to sold out early. In boxing it really needs hype before the fight starts because huge money is involved here. But yeah, manny pacquaio quite knows a lot in the boxing world so their fight would be interesting and fun to watch.
It can be like that but there's an intense feeling coming from the people's champ and sure it has brought a lot of attention. Does anyone knows if the tickets on MGM is already sold out?

It looks like it generating a lot of buzz as we get closer to the fight. Manny won't let his fans down specially with that big mouth, trash talking Thurman.
The emotion is there and it's kind of bringing the hype to the match but the intensity can be felt through Manny's reaction and coach Freddie Roach's opinion.
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
Manny has fought bigger fighter in the past and used his advantage which is the speed very well. If Thurman decide to came big come fight time, the slower than Heinz ketchup which Roach stated is very evident. He should at least match the speed of Manny if he want to win this fight. Remember Brandon Rios, which cried after the fight because he can't even touch Manny  Grin.
That's a sad reality for the pacman's opponent that he beaten up.
It's not about the size and the power anymore, as even Manny does not have the size but his speed and power is good enough to knock down or stop an opponent. He has done this many times before, he would not be an 8 division champ for nothing, his power should be respected.
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
Manny has fought bigger fighter in the past and used his advantage which is the speed very well. If Thurman decide to came big come fight time, the slower than Heinz ketchup which Roach stated is very evident. He should at least match the speed of Manny if he want to win this fight. Remember Brandon Rios, which cried after the fight because he can't even touch Manny  Grin.
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all that happens before the fight, nothing more than a muscle game to the public.  Each of us understands that it is What events have a good influence on gambling people who quickly take to bookmakers.
Boxing is business and they will do all to make profit out of the fight so we can expect this kind of things before the fight but at the end of the fight, expect those two fighters to hug and congratulate each other for a good fight then starting to talk about rematch, lol.

The thing about Freddie talking about Thurman being slow is a thing that a trainer or boxer could see and exploit and it's up to the bettors to believe and put his money on the right fighter.
But what Freddie says was true,watching Thurman fight is much slower than how Manny moves in the ring and that comparison is indeed
But you’re right that this is business and all the promoter will do just to make high profit whatever it cause them,so fighter is just like a material from them that only there to generate income and nothing at all
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I'll place a small bet on Thurman. I like underdogs Grin.

He just became an underdog recently lol

Thurman should not be an underdog, he is a legitimate opponent of Pacman, it's the people's decision that we are seeing now that resulted to the drop of betting odds for Thurman. This is good for Thurman believers as they can get a good odds, and lucky those who bet on Pacman in the early as the odds was also over 2.00.
I agree Thurman shouldn't be an underdog and as per review on his career he's not that kind of casual boxer. Being underdog was a wrong tag for him for those people considering him lower bet on this fight. However we don't really opened our eyes yet, but the date is a day so expect an intense fight for the two of them. Thurman should observe pacman's foot work, because that's very important during the live fight.
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I'll place a small bet on Thurman. I like underdogs Grin.

He just became an underdog recently lol

Thurman should not be an underdog, he is a legitimate opponent of Pacman, it's the people's decision that we are seeing now that resulted to the drop of betting odds for Thurman. This is good for Thurman believers as they can get a good odds, and lucky those who bet on Pacman in the early as the odds was also over 2.00.
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Maybe the reason why PPV subscription on this fight is cheaper than before is the opponent of Manny is not popular. He may be undefeated but he has not fought a fighter in Manny's caliber. If he can beat Manny convincingly then it could be a feather on his cap.

We can apply that too to Pacquaio's previous opponents e.g Matthysse, Horn but PPV cost back on that match is around average. The low price today is really noticeable to the fact that Thurman is way more better compare to those 2 boxers I have mentioned and much more of a caliber fights.

Reasons I'm seeing is lack of promotions I guess during the early phase and some people maybe thinks that any of today's Pacquaio fight is just purely business and no deadly instinct at both fighters at all.

Right, we have to accept the fact that Pacquiao is no longer in his prime as and much as we boxing fans wanted him to stay and fight for years, at one point in time his career will be over and him just fighting today is purely business in his part.

I saw the promotional video, LOL, it was epic. It was long the Alpha Lion guarding his turf but suddenly a young and upcoming cub wanted to take his place and take everything from him.  Grin
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Hope others here got the chance to grab the several-week-long or I think that's month-long great odds for Pacquaio which is @2.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to take the chance. However, I'm waiting for interesting odds for Round Winners and Round where it will end.

I'll place a small bet on Thurman. I like underdogs Grin.

He just became an underdog recently lol
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Anyone from the Philippines watched the promo trailer for the fight?

That is really great. It is like Manny Pacquiao is boss of mafia and Keith Thurman is getting in his house expecting Keith to be there. While Thurman is walking he is seeing the picture of Manny in his past fights. This is amazing, this is really hyping me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXS8jIZRQ-o

Lol, if we are going to based it from the trailer they actually have stated that Thurman is the real underdog. It seems that it only has few views as of the moment, I wonder why it is not hitting up the market that hard right now. Is the fight really not worth watching for?

He is the underdog.

That is the reason I used Manny Pacquaio as a Mafia boss and Thurman as no one going in Manny's turf. I think you misunderstood the way I described it.
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
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@darklus123. All the sportsbooks follow the same course, similar to all the cryptocoin exchanges follow each other.

In any case, Manny Pacquiao is 1.75 on Cloudbet. Sportsbet might have been slow in adjusting their odds. I reckon take the opportunity and bet there immediately hehehe.
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Anyone from the Philippines watched the promo trailer for the fight?

That is really great. It is like Manny Pacquiao is boss of mafia and Keith Thurman is getting in his house expecting Keith to be there. While Thurman is walking he is seeing the picture of Manny in his past fights. This is amazing, this is really hyping me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXS8jIZRQ-o

Lol, if we are going to based it from the trailer they actually have stated that Thurman is the real underdog. It seems that it only has few views as of the moment, I wonder why it is not hitting up the market that hard right now. Is the fight really not worth watching for?

That Youtube Channel seems not so popular, that’s why it doesn’t have a lot of views. In fact a dozens of videos made for Thurman and Pacquiao fight and hit huge number of views.

Manny Pacquiao is leading now on the odds, I really regret when the odds are favor of Keith Thurman a month ago. Now, it really flipped, still, I'm looking to beat on Manny Pacquiao soon.

So as of July 4 from Sportsbet Thurman is still the favorite? Kinda interesting tho because most of the betting sites not related to crypto are now in favor of Pacman.

No. The odds turned favor now for Manny Pacquiao as of this moment in sportsbet and it looks like all betting sites favor now to Manny.

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Anyone from the Philippines watched the promo trailer for the fight?

That is really great. It is like Manny Pacquiao is boss of mafia and Keith Thurman is getting in his house expecting Keith to be there. While Thurman is walking he is seeing the picture of Manny in his past fights. This is amazing, this is really hyping me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXS8jIZRQ-o

Lol, if we are going to based it from the trailer they actually have stated that Thurman is the real underdog. It seems that it only has few views as of the moment, I wonder why it is not hitting up the market that hard right now. Is the fight really not worth watching for?

Manny Pacquiao is leading now on the odds, I really regret when the odds are favor of Keith Thurman a month ago. Now, it really flipped, still, I'm looking to beat on Manny Pacquiao soon.

So as of July 4 from Sportsbet Thurman is still the favorite? Kinda interesting tho because most of the betting sites not related to crypto are now in favor of Pacman.
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Maybe the reason why PPV subscription on this fight is cheaper than before is the opponent of Manny is not popular. He may be undefeated but he has not fought a fighter in Manny's caliber. If he can beat Manny convincingly then it could be a feather on his cap.

We can apply that too to Pacquaio's previous opponents e.g Matthysse, Horn but PPV cost back on that match is around average. The low price today is really noticeable to the fact that Thurman is way more better compare to those 2 boxers I have mentioned and much more of a caliber fights.

Reasons I'm seeing is lack of promotions I guess during the early phase and some people maybe thinks that any of today's Pacquaio fight is just purely business and no deadly instinct at both fighters at all.
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