Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20 - page 42.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 23, 2019, 06:09:00 PM

Looking at Nitrogensports and checked the odds, it looks like the fighting pride of the Philippines Senator Manny Pacquiao is the underdog. The odds are +115 for Manny Pacquiao and -135 for Keith Thurman. If the fight will go until the last round, I think Senator Manny Pacquiao will win. Senator Manny Pacquiaos speed is something that Keith Thurman needs to overcome.

Yep, Manny seems to be the underdog in this fight. But this is good for the bettors though, I mean we all know that Manny can still fight at high level boxing even at his age, so I'm expecting that Manny will come strong early here to not give Thurman some confidence.

The speed is still there for Manny and I think with his experience, he can still win this fight in TKO/KO.

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Quote from: Siren on May 22, 2019, 09:43:26 AM

Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

What do you expect obviously from 20-30 to 40s? lol.

Manny's fans around the world already knows that. Others even take that as his disadvantage since Jeff Horn match but look what happened especially with the follow-up matches?

Now with Truman, expect the same statement will rise again.

Even with Pacquiao's age, we can still say that he's fast. However, it can be noticed that he may not have the same power as before since we don't see knock outs in his recent fights. Some of his wins

Pacman is the underdog in this fight which makes things different as compared to Thurman's undefeated record but Thurman may have a disadvantage because he had an elbow surgery last 2017. He took a break from boxing to recover and he says that it won't affect him but has only recently returned to the boxing ring after nearly two years of rest. The odds between the two will make their fight exciting to see.

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Quote from: Oceat on May 23, 2019, 06:35:11 PM

People really know when the fight starts in Vegas they know who will gonna win because that's how it is. I am quite surprised that Pacman was the underdog in this fight. lol But seriously, I'll be watching the whole game if there is a fair tally of all the punches that they made each other. I'm sure people can't do anything when the judges reveal the scores that are quite different from them. lol

And yet another young vs. old. But I am rooting for Pacquiao though. I hope he will prove again to the world that he still have the power on this sports. But then again, he should retire from this industry soon. He has nothing to prove anymore. He's living a good life on his own. What is it in him that he keeps on accepting challenges and fights?

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 23, 2019, 06:09:00 PM

Looking at Nitrogensports and checked the odds, it looks like the fighting pride of the Philippines Senator Manny Pacquiao is the underdog. The odds are +115 for Manny Pacquiao and -135 for Keith Thurman. If the fight will go until the last round, I think Senator Manny Pacquiao will win. Senator Manny Pacquiaos speed is something that Keith Thurman needs to overcome.

Agreed.Senator Manny Pacquiao has his own undefeated speed that will make his opponents lose in the game.Even if he will fight against a young and good boxer,i think he can still prove that his age is not a hindrance that he will still win from this battle.I salute Manny's focus and determination to win in the game not just for money but he has really good passion in boxing.

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People really know when the fight starts in Vegas they know who will gonna win because that's how it is. I am quite surprised that Pacman was the underdog in this fight. lol But seriously, I'll be watching the whole game if there is a fair tally of all the punches that they made each other. I'm sure people can't do anything when the judges reveal the scores that are quite different from them. lol

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 23, 2019, 06:09:00 PM

Looking at Nitrogensports and checked the odds, it looks like the fighting pride of the Philippines Senator Manny Pacquiao is the underdog. The odds are +115 for Manny Pacquiao and -135 for Keith Thurman.

Wow!, haven't check the odds yet but I'm surprise that pacman is the underdog in this fight, well I think this makes it more interesting as it's rare that pacman will be an underdog of the fight, honestly, I underestimated his opponent but not most people sees the way I do.
I like that betting odds, I'll be backing PACMAC to win.

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 23, 2019, 06:09:00 PM

If the fight will go until the last round, I think Senator Manny Pacquiao will win. Senator Manny Pacquiaos speed is something that Keith Thurman needs to overcome.

Would be nice if it will not go to distance and Manny will just knock Thurman out.

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Looking at Nitrogensports and checked the odds, it looks like the fighting pride of the Philippines Senator Manny Pacquiao is the underdog. The odds are +115 for Manny Pacquiao and -135 for Keith Thurman. If the fight will go until the last round, I think Senator Manny Pacquiao will win. Senator Manny Pacquiaos speed is something that Keith Thurman needs to overcome.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on May 23, 2019, 12:14:40 AM

I've checked both fighters last two fights and it seems Pacquiao has a big edge, Thurman last two fights cannot be considered his best fights, almost lose to Garcia where he wins by split decision, on Lopez fights he has a poor showing, on Pacquiao's two fights he is very impressive especially his fight against Broner, so I'll go for Pacquiao.

I like the way you observed it, Manny still have the speed even the killer instinct is no longer that high but the eagerness to win can still be seen
to his eyes, with the high compassions and full blast coming to this fight, he's still have ha higher chance to win it over.

Age might be the gap but also can be the deciding factors, as this two fighters will show how they can compensate with this edge.

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I've checked both fighters last two fights and it seems Pacquiao has a big edge, Thurman last two fights cannot be considered his best fights, almost lose to Garcia where he wins by split decision, on Lopez fights he has a poor showing, on Pacquiao's two fights he is very impressive especially his fight against Broner, so I'll go for Pacquiao.

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Quote from: samputin on May 17, 2019, 07:00:40 AM

Age is just a number! And Manny Pacquiao is one of that adage's living proof. Manny already had fights with younger boxers before but, hello? Did he back out? Heck no! He still shows that he is able to fight fair and square and with much strength. And on this fight, Keith may be young but boxing is not about age. It's abour your ability to hit and punch very well. And I think Manny still have that capabilities. My bet is, obviously, on Manny. Filipino pride!

But just like what Thurman says ,this fight will likely the Oscar delajoya and Manny Pacquiao when Manny overruns the older Delajoya that time

Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

In Manny last 3 fights, All those are 3 young boxers but they all failed to dominate the people's champ. The only thing is missing for Manny was his Knock out power since he fight's with caution right now unlike his younger days where he fights to the death and chasing his enemies to the end of the ring. But now its different since one mistake could end his life instantly.

Manny Pacquiao started from 108lbs in which he is fast and punch hard but as he go up in weight opponents are bigger and Manny's movement slows a bit that is why i think seldom we can see him knockout opponents in the Welter division and also he is cautious now after that Marquez knockout.

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Quote from: Red_Evil on May 22, 2019, 05:02:52 PM

Now Pacman is a member of the senate in the Philippines. it doesn't rule out the possibility that he will elected for president, so with pacman still boxing until right now I think he can make his electability continue to rise at least in his country Philippines.

The time he might be run for president, he's already retired. 2022 is the next Presidential PH election and majority wants *** (not MP) to run for president. So it's another 6 years before he can consider running for that position. 49 years old at that time.

Too much speculation and off-topic. Let's now head to the main point of this thread.

Quote from: Siren on May 22, 2019, 09:43:26 AM

Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

What do you expect obviously from 20-30 to 40s? lol.

Manny's fans around the world already knows that. Others even take that as his disadvantage since Jeff Horn match but look what happened especially with the follow-up matches?

Now with Truman, expect the same statement will rise again.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 22, 2019, 02:51:46 PM

Hobby?
Electability?
What are you talking about?

This isn't a hobby but a profession and have some time to differentiate among the two.
@Supercrypt i do believe on the same thing which retirement wont be so soon as long theres still money he can win of.

Now Pacman is a member of the senate in the Philippines. it doesn't rule out the possibility that he will elected for president, so with pacman still boxing until right now I think he can make his electability continue to rise at least in his country Philippines.

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Quote from: smyslov on May 22, 2019, 11:19:31 AM

On all his fight after Mayweather Thurman will be Manny's biggest test, he is both a champion and undefeated and with a knock out power, but I still believe Manny can pull this one, he has matured and very cautious I predict a unanimous decision for Manny Pacquiao, but it will be fantastic if Manny can knock him out.

Manny Pacquiao have gained the trust of people from different countries because of his amazing strategies and even skills in boxing. And with his incoming fight with Thurman, this is really a big test for him if he can still beat a young boxer who is also known as an amazing boxer in his own country. I think this one is something worth it to be watched.

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Quote from: Red_Evil on May 22, 2019, 12:55:16 PM

Quote from: Supercrypt on May 22, 2019, 12:10:30 PM

Unlike you guys may think there is literally almost no money in boxing, it is only these big names that are making this much money, first of all there are like 50 people who make decent money in all over boxing all over the world compared to over a million boxers, almost all of them work and box at the same time as well so they use boxing as their hobby.

Even Wilder who is now 41-0 and doing amazing made only 9.5 compared to Pacman who LOST and got 55 million in Mayweather fight. Like even Daniel Roman made about 250 thousand dollars for one of his championship fights. These are the top notch people in boxing, and they have like 1 or 2 fights a year usually, think of all those hundreds of thousands of people that make 50 bucks per fight and you will see why its not a big winner.

Pacman knows there is no way he will make any money resembling this amount ever again, this is TOO MUCH money to left on the table, if he gets paid for a fight he should fight when he is 50+ years old too, why stop when you can make so much money. The day he stops fighting is the day he longer earns any money.

yeah it is not just about money. all boxer want a big money for their match but in the other hand they are fight because this is their hobby. and i think pacquiao will not stop to fight because this is the hobby. but you know with fight pacquiao can increase electability in philipines.

Hobby?
Electability?
What are you talking about?

This isn't a hobby but a profession and have some time to differentiate among the two.
@Supercrypt i do believe on the same thing which retirement wont be so soon as long theres still money he can win of.

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Quote from: Supercrypt on May 22, 2019, 12:10:30 PM

Unlike you guys may think there is literally almost no money in boxing, it is only these big names that are making this much money, first of all there are like 50 people who make decent money in all over boxing all over the world compared to over a million boxers, almost all of them work and box at the same time as well so they use boxing as their hobby.

Even Wilder who is now 41-0 and doing amazing made only 9.5 compared to Pacman who LOST and got 55 million in Mayweather fight. Like even Daniel Roman made about 250 thousand dollars for one of his championship fights. These are the top notch people in boxing, and they have like 1 or 2 fights a year usually, think of all those hundreds of thousands of people that make 50 bucks per fight and you will see why its not a big winner.

Pacman knows there is no way he will make any money resembling this amount ever again, this is TOO MUCH money to left on the table, if he gets paid for a fight he should fight when he is 50+ years old too, why stop when you can make so much money. The day he stops fighting is the day he longer earns any money.

yeah it is not just about money. all boxer want a big money for their match but in the other hand they are fight because this is their hobby. and i think pacquiao will not stop to fight because this is the hobby. but you know with fight pacquiao can increase electability in philipines.

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Unlike you guys may think there is literally almost no money in boxing, it is only these big names that are making this much money, first of all there are like 50 people who make decent money in all over boxing all over the world compared to over a million boxers, almost all of them work and box at the same time as well so they use boxing as their hobby.

Even Wilder who is now 41-0 and doing amazing made only 9.5 compared to Pacman who LOST and got 55 million in Mayweather fight. Like even Daniel Roman made about 250 thousand dollars for one of his championship fights. These are the top notch people in boxing, and they have like 1 or 2 fights a year usually, think of all those hundreds of thousands of people that make 50 bucks per fight and you will see why its not a big winner.

Pacman knows there is no way he will make any money resembling this amount ever again, this is TOO MUCH money to left on the table, if he gets paid for a fight he should fight when he is 50+ years old too, why stop when you can make so much money. The day he stops fighting is the day he longer earns any money.

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On all his fight after Mayweather Thurman will be Manny's biggest test, he is both a champion and undefeated and with a knock out power, but I still believe Manny can pull this one, he has matured and very cautious I predict a unanimous decision for Manny Pacquiao, but it will be fantastic if Manny can knock him out.

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Quote from: Siren on May 22, 2019, 09:43:26 AM

Quote from: samputin on May 17, 2019, 07:00:40 AM

Age is just a number! And Manny Pacquiao is one of that adage's living proof. Manny already had fights with younger boxers before but, hello? Did he back out? Heck no! He still shows that he is able to fight fair and square and with much strength. And on this fight, Keith may be young but boxing is not about age. It's abour your ability to hit and punch very well. And I think Manny still have that capabilities. My bet is, obviously, on Manny. Filipino pride!

But just like what Thurman says ,this fight will likely the Oscar delajoya and Manny Pacquiao when Manny overruns the older Delajoya that time

Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

In Manny last 3 fights, All those are 3 young boxers but they all failed to dominate the people's champ. The only thing is missing for Manny was his Knock out power since he fight's with caution right now unlike his younger days where he fights to the death and chasing his enemies to the end of the ring. But now its different since one mistake could end his life instantly.

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Quote from: samputin on May 17, 2019, 07:00:40 AM

Age is just a number! And Manny Pacquiao is one of that adage's living proof. Manny already had fights with younger boxers before but, hello? Did he back out? Heck no! He still shows that he is able to fight fair and square and with much strength. And on this fight, Keith may be young but boxing is not about age. It's abour your ability to hit and punch very well. And I think Manny still have that capabilities. My bet is, obviously, on Manny. Filipino pride!

But just like what Thurman says ,this fight will likely the Oscar delajoya and Manny Pacquiao when Manny overruns the older Delajoya that time

Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 17, 2019, 05:55:49 AM

Good news so far for Pacman fans out there, we can win big if we bet on him, at least for now

. Oddsmaker have put Manny the slight underdog for now but we expect changes of this as the fight came close.

source: https://sports.mb.com.ph/2019/05/17/pacquiao-slight-underdog-vs-thurman/

Definitely it will change as the fight get's closer. But I'm surprised by the odd makers favoring Thurman in this fight. Perhaps the young and the power of Keith was one of the factors in saying that Thurman will beat Manny Pacquiao. But for us, we all know that Manny will prove his fans and his critics why he is still fighting at this age. If the odds are good, I might throw some money on the legendary boxer, just to have some fun. Grin

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