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legendary
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March 26, 2019, 07:05:24 AM
#68
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.


Sadly a signed message isn't definitive proof these days, but it's better than nothing, especially as not being able to provide one is a huge giveaway (though not exactly definitive in itself either).

Well, I can't wait for the day that someone buys an account with a private key and then the seller recovers their account back, leaving the buyer high and dry.  The seller may even get lucky and be able to recover the e-mail account too.Cheesy
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It is interesting to see that you are hoping that a certain group of people will get scammed.

This has been noted.

I don't think he wants this to happen but this is obviously just a way to test the validity of that address. If someone else owns it then that user would be very reluctant to send money to it as the chances the money would disappear would be very high, though obviously he was being factitious, but I suppose you could say it was the users fault if he did in fact lose his money this way.


Yeah, nearly everything can be circumvented which is why basing shit on feelings and comparison works even less.
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March 24, 2019, 06:44:04 AM
#67
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.


Sadly a signed message isn't definitive proof these days, but it's better than nothing, especially as not being able to provide one is a huge giveaway (though not exactly definitive in itself either).

Well, I can't wait for the day that someone buys an account with a private key and then the seller recovers their account back, leaving the buyer high and dry.  The seller may even get lucky and be able to recover the e-mail account too.Cheesy
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It is interesting to see that you are hoping that a certain group of people will get scammed.

This has been noted.

I don't think he wants this to happen but this is obviously just a way to test the validity of that address. If someone else owns it then that user would be very reluctant to send money to it as the chances the money would disappear would be very high, though obviously he was being factitious, but I suppose you could say it was the users fault if he did in fact lose his money this way.
legendary
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March 23, 2019, 04:39:46 PM
#66
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.


Maybe we should start asking suspect accounts to fund the private key and leave it there for a week.  Cheesy
I don't think there is any basis for telling people they must hold money in bitcoin in order to maintain their reputation.

Well, I can't wait for the day that someone buys an account with a private key and then the seller recovers their account back, leaving the buyer high and dry.  The seller may even get lucky and be able to recover the e-mail account too.Cheesy

It's happened to me with collateral. The user had "his account stolen", that's probable but it's also probable he just claimed that.

Well, if the debtor ended up paying paid the loan, then (s)he was probably truthful. However, if they didn't pay, then I'd consider it equivalent to "the dog ate my homework" excuse.
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March 23, 2019, 01:27:12 PM
#65
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.


Maybe we should start asking suspect accounts to fund the private key and leave it there for a week.  Cheesy
I don't think there is any basis for telling people they must hold money in bitcoin in order to maintain their reputation.

Well, I can't wait for the day that someone buys an account with a private key and then the seller recovers their account back, leaving the buyer high and dry.  The seller may even get lucky and be able to recover the e-mail account too.Cheesy


It's happened to me with collateral. The user had "his account stolen", that's probable but it's also probable he just claimed that.
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March 23, 2019, 01:01:33 PM
#64
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.


Maybe we should start asking suspect accounts to fund the private key and leave it there for a week.  Cheesy
I don't think there is any basis for telling people they must hold money in bitcoin in order to maintain their reputation.

Well, I can't wait for the day that someone buys an account with a private key and then the seller recovers their account back, leaving the buyer high and dry.  The seller may even get lucky and be able to recover the e-mail account too.Cheesy
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It is interesting to see that you are hoping that a certain group of people will get scammed.

This has been noted.
legendary
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March 23, 2019, 12:35:49 PM
#63
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.


Maybe we should start asking suspect accounts to fund the private key and leave it there for a week.  Cheesy
I don't think there is any basis for telling people they must hold money in bitcoin in order to maintain their reputation.

Well, I can't wait for the day that someone buys an account with a private key and then the seller recovers their account back, leaving the buyer high and dry.  The seller may even get lucky and be able to recover the e-mail account too.Cheesy
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March 23, 2019, 12:25:16 PM
#62
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.


Maybe we should start asking suspect accounts to fund the private key and leave it there for a week.  Cheesy
I don't think there is any basis for telling people they must hold money in bitcoin in order to maintain their reputation.
legendary
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March 23, 2019, 12:21:20 PM
#61
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.


Maybe we should start asking suspect accounts to fund the private key and leave it there for a week.  Cheesy
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March 23, 2019, 12:13:48 PM
#60
I don't have a credit card. I am ready to pay higher interest to secure it P2P online (I will make enough to cover it + some).
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March 23, 2019, 12:12:08 PM
#59
Are we sure this is the original marcotheminer? I've only skimmed the thread but he was pretty inactive from about 2016 and has only really recently started up again, especially with the loans. Has a signed message been provide from some old addresses?
Yes, he signed a message here that included the date. Also he has had multiple loans funded to that address.

Yes, since day 0 until now. Signed address has been given several times since returning to active mode.
To be thorough: can you give a link to a signed message and staked address? And since accounts are often sold including staked address, it will be much more convincing if you sign from a non-empty staked address.
This is a pretty good argument to not go in 'guns blazing' tagging every sold account because, according to threads I have seen in Auctions, both email addresses and private keys are being sold with accounts, making it very difficult, if not impossible to tell when an account has changed hands.

Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.
I am not sure if you have heard of a credit card, but that is an example of banks giving no collateral loans. Banks also give no collateral signature loans all the time, on much better terms than you are proposing. Banks will generally want to document a potential borrowers' ability to repay (usually based on their income) before giving this kind of loan
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March 23, 2019, 11:19:56 AM
#58
All he's gotten in that thread so far are comments voicing skepticism, and rightfully so--this is why the red trust should stand, so that others can see his history.

It'll be interesting to see if he gets that loan.  The main problem is that he sees no problem gambling with other people's money, and in addition he outright refuses to offer collateral.  If that isn't sketchy from a red-trusted member, I don't know what is.  He also thinks other people can read his mind and his intentions, which obviously no one can.  That's why collateral is a must for loans, especially with bitcoin.  If he decides to not repay the loan, the lender basically has zero recourse.

Stop. Making. Assumptions. Jesus.

I don't use cards (I don't even have a prepaid one), I prefer not even use my bank if I can avoid it.

I've seen a few projects pop up that are similar to bitconnect.. Are these the kind of investments you are making marco?

No. It is on a reputable exchange site.

We don't even know what you're proposing because you won't tell anybody, unless they are a "serious investor." How can somebody even consider being a serious investor if they don't know what they are investing in?

Ok, if you have 10 BTC in your wallet. Many people do. And you see who I am (through the b.s. of recent) then you reach out to me. You say: look here is how I operate, here's what I need. Boom, everyone is on same page and we work as a team, updates, etc as they come (daily in this instance).
No. It is on a reputable exchange site.

Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.

Hint: "people" here are saying that you're full of shit.

You're either in some shithole where 5000 EUR is enough to disappear with or you're so broke IRL that you don't even have a credit card with a 5k limit. Either case, nobody should lend you any money, as if that hasn't been abundantly clear for some time now.

Read my signature.
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March 23, 2019, 11:15:33 AM
#57
I've seen a few projects pop up that are similar to bitconnect.. Are these the kind of investments you are making marco?
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March 23, 2019, 10:48:25 AM
#56
Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.

Hint: "people" here are saying that you're full of shit.

You're either in some shithole where 5000 EUR is enough to disappear with or you're so broke IRL that you don't even have a credit card with a 5k limit. Either case, nobody should lend you any money, as if that hasn't been abundantly clear for some time now.
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March 23, 2019, 10:46:02 AM
#55
All he's gotten in that thread so far are comments voicing skepticism, and rightfully so--this is why the red trust should stand, so that others can see his history.

It'll be interesting to see if he gets that loan.  The main problem is that he sees no problem gambling with other people's money, and in addition he outright refuses to offer collateral.  If that isn't sketchy from a red-trusted member, I don't know what is.  He also thinks other people can read his mind and his intentions, which obviously no one can.  That's why collateral is a must for loans, especially with bitcoin.  If he decides to not repay the loan, the lender basically has zero recourse.
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March 23, 2019, 10:39:53 AM
#54
Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.

We don't even know what you're proposing because you won't tell anybody, unless they are a "serious investor." How can somebody even consider being a serious investor if they don't know what they are investing in?
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March 23, 2019, 10:35:32 AM
#53
Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.

Bitcoin is the end of banks. Why? because this is possible. Banks would ask for collateral, they are legacy systems. They wouldn't even know what I'm proposing. Here, people have knowledge of the field.
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March 23, 2019, 10:29:23 AM
#52
Just go to a bank and tell them this story you're telling us. I mean it's all so credible you should have no problem getting a 5000 EUR loan.
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March 23, 2019, 09:17:13 AM
#51

NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)

I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.

Well that ended pretty quickly:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5123782

You were no longer seeking loans for 1 month for 1 day.

I received the 0.3, placed where needed and kept around half as liquid.

I am working with 400 eur, when 3000-5000 eur is ideal (for this opportunity).

I thought that opportunity was one-off, but turns out it continues, except slightly bigger/longer lasting. Hence the loan. I can pass on this opportunity (as I said, month of income). BUT why not earn more if it involves reinvest just a portion of previous earnings?
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March 23, 2019, 09:14:33 AM
#50

NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)

I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.

Well that ended pretty quickly:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5123782

You were no longer seeking loans for 1 month for 1 day.

No but seriously, I'm not asking for bigger and bigger loans.

I would say 3,000 - 5,000 euros definitely counts as "bigger."
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March 23, 2019, 09:05:42 AM
#49
NO LONGER SEEKING LOANS (1Month)
I received the expected 0.3BTC, so that's a month of income right there.
Well, it appears that plan changed. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5123782
It smells more and more like an exit scam.

Yes, since day 0 until now. Signed address has been given several times since returning to active mode.
To be thorough: can you give a link to a signed message and staked address? And since accounts are often sold including staked address, it will be much more convincing if you sign from a non-empty staked address.
Yes, you can find it in my old loan threads. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11077414
I see an address, no signature. For what it's worth, I have no reason to believe you bought the account. I didn't interact with you before.

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& Please, stop with the "exit scam" possibility.
If you stop asking for bigger and bigger loans, I'll stop thinking you're planning an exit scam.

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It's fun to have some drama where someone might run off with $5000eur, but it's peanuts. This is legitimate revenue generation.
I love it when people claim the loan they need is "peanuts". That may be true for some people, but the fact is you don't have this "peanut" amount, which makes it much more than "peanuts" for you.

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Those with real interest/ability to invest, will ask the right questions - and soon realise if they are wasting their time or soon to make money.
I'd say open a topic and post all the details Smiley

Smell some coffee beans to reset your palette. Tongue

No but seriously, I'm not asking for bigger and bigger loans. I asked for 0.02 then 0.05 then 0.03 once. All small scale similar online operations. I can't convince you to make income, so I seek people who show business interest.

Post all the details? So that when they're out there you and 50 other members can crowd the income out? No thanks - there's a reason this space is profitable: it is inefficient. We don't share all information (yet), income opportunities like this must be protected, especially since they are short term.

"Peanuts" is the way one sees something. I don't have "peanuts" but I realise 5,000 eur truly is a drop in the bucket. I was dealing with these amounts in 2014-2016, many times holding it for companies and other users.

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There's another reason maybe for the negativity.

Many of the people speaking of me now never actually had any interactions with me. I've been here since end of 2013, the people who know me will trust me. Newer people or newly met people rather, will take some time to "show you how I operate". I successfully ran the biggest campaigns here, I worked with massive companies for their campaigns.
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