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marlboroza

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on March 20, 2019, 04:59:42 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on March 20, 2019, 04:36:25 PM

http://archive.is/uf3md bitkilo

Where did the bitkilo connection come from?

Well...

Quote from: bitkilo on October 15, 2014, 06:45:09 PM

Hi lightlord, could you please change my payment address, i have also sent you a PM about this.
Thank you.

And this is marcotheminer's addy

http://archive.is/uf3md#selection-6663.0-6663.161 (scroll up and check table)

Unless they used marcotheminer's address in signature campaign to repay loan, but that doesn't make sense because marcotheminer posted this:

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 02, 2014, 04:48:24 AM

Repaid late, but repaid! Thanks.

https://blockchain.info/tx/145e60f1c3d801b8f82656d72dd114a160f7652f332640e4a5963edeb415d9f8

https://blockchain.info/tx/72f670a9c71c39d03d13c9ce62d8d22e7176f3e07e1cde5a79537e80be8ed0aa

Repayment came from 17eDS4zwUvd3whq6ep46NRN4gVegQ8JuFM which is bitkilo's address https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18700229

I am really confused. That loan should have been repaid a month before this transaction.

suchmoon

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: DarkStar_ on March 20, 2019, 04:59:42 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on March 20, 2019, 04:36:25 PM

http://archive.is/uf3md bitkilo

Where did the bitkilo connection come from?

https://archive.fo/uf3md#selection-6531.0-6531.29 (look in the list, can't link directly)

DarkStar_

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Quote from: marlboroza on March 20, 2019, 04:36:25 PM

http://archive.is/uf3md bitkilo

Where did the bitkilo connection come from?

marlboroza

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Have you repaid old loans?

This is your address https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49863740

Part of wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/013184bb1458a768/addresses

http://archive.is/Xj5R0 2double0 ^[1]
http://archive.is/dgJ6L MegaHuslr
http://archive.is/uf3md bitkilo
http://archive.is/mEHc0 deborameeks
http://archive.is/Pp0Er howzar
http://archive.is/TAEHd Mondy
http://archive.is/YveGk Mobo
ETC.

Lutpin connected several accounts with howzar few years ago:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13605820
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13605983
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13613499

Seems like loan scammer. You don't know anything about this, don't you?

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If anyone has time to go through this wallet there are possible more accounts (probably sold/default/whatever).

[1] Well, this is funny:

That account used address which is part of marcotheminer's wallet Cheesy

marcotheminer

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Right. Let me add too: if my account stays as it is or if it reverts to how it was nothing really changes. People who trust me will continue to do so. People who only trust me because of a reputation number, will not deal with me (that was already the case from BadBear/Mitchell trusts). (hopefully these members begin to realise, this number is easily manipulated for BOTH good and for bad, and look through it onto more meaningful reputation metrics).

I will continue to use the forum for business/services/trades/lending/discussion/you name it; as I have done these past 6 years, a scammer tag won't change that and won't change my ability to successfully cooperate with other members.

That being said: it is still a pain and I would rather it not remain as it is, for the numerous reasons I've outlined.

asche

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I forgot more than you will ever know.

Quote from: Hhampuz on March 19, 2019, 06:40:30 PM

What I can see you have a tag that says "Trade with extreme caution" and negative trust for being late on loans, I'm not seeing anything about you being a scammer? Unless you are saying that negatives are only for scammers? Sorry have not been involved in this so just trying to understand.

EDIT; I think most people that gave you negative are reasonable users that may remove or revise the rating at a later time. Although it's not been too long yet.

What was mentioned is the "instruction" regarding when to leave a neg

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1580039

Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

So basically the argument of marco is that a red tag should be used only to expose scammers.

marcotheminer

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Quote from: Hhampuz on March 19, 2019, 06:40:30 PM

What I can see you have a tag that says "Trade with extreme caution" and negative trust for being late on loans, I'm not seeing anything about you being a scammer? Unless you are saying that negatives are only for scammers? Sorry have not been involved in this so just trying to understand.

EDIT; I think most people that gave you negative are reasonable users that may remove or revise the rating at a later time. Although it's not been too long yet.

Right, the tags I received recently came from:

1. Being late on the 2nd loan I've ever been late on. Repaid fully, while maintaining contact with lender, as much assurance as I could provide - I gave.
2. "arrogance and deceit" - quite the scammer tag worthy statement Roll Eyes

Note, I was late on 2 loans.. People make it seem like this has been going on for the past 4 months. No, they were 2 isolated and resolved events. So, the trust should be resolved too by now.

Overall, it's the fact that I didn't stick to the deadline. So people saw it as a perfect opportunity (following Roman's thread) to destroy my account. I have no scammed, nor will scam. I was late on 2 very short term loans in the past month. Perhaps next time, minimum duration will be a month to account for these things. I rather keep it short as the "best case", since best cases are the usual outcome.

Thule

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Quote from: Hhampuz on March 19, 2019, 06:40:30 PM

What I can see you have a tag that says "Trade with extreme caution" and negative trust for being late on loans, I'm not seeing anything about you being a scammer? Unless you are saying that negatives are only for scammers? Sorry have not been involved in this so just trying to understand.

EDIT; I think most people that gave you negative are reasonable users that may remove or revise the rating at a later time. Although it's not been too long yet.

When going to the trust page you can read at bottom

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Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

Also majority of forum users consider negative feedback with being a scammer which makes that all campaign managers disqualifies members with negative trust as its assicioted with scammers.

Hhampuz

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Meh.

What I can see you have a tag that says "Trade with extreme caution" and negative trust for being late on loans, I'm not seeing anything about you being a scammer? Unless you are saying that negatives are only for scammers? Sorry have not been involved in this so just trying to understand.

EDIT; I think most people that gave you negative are reasonable users that may remove or revise the rating at a later time. Although it's not been too long yet.

marcotheminer

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on March 19, 2019, 04:16:49 PM

Quote from: Thule on March 19, 2019, 12:08:06 PM

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Keep this to a relevant thread, thanks.

bones261

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Quote from: marcotheminer on March 19, 2019, 12:25:00 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 19, 2019, 09:33:01 AM

I think this is a good example as to why those who don’t participate in the marketplace have no business in the DT system.

Perfect example, and it hasn't even been the first to come by..

Meh, like our activity on Bitcointalk encompasses our whole life experience. Roll Eyes

Whatever.

DireWolfM14

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Quote from: Thule on March 19, 2019, 12:08:06 PM

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Real debate, huh? Just like your understanding of "facts?" You wouldn't know a "real debate" if that was the name of a pit bull latched on to your ass.

Says an abuser and merit whore who posts false feedbacks.
But you know what i give you the chance to proof your negative feedback to be legit here

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being called out as having an alt that was used to scam.

Please show me my alt which has scammed people on which i have been called out.

This one: ito-marketing. Now read my words carefully. I didn't say you attempted to scam, I said you retaliated for being called out as having an alt that used to scam. You may argue that ito-marketing didn't attempt to scam anyone, but in my opinion attempted manipulation of the DT system is an attempt to scam.

marcotheminer

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 19, 2019, 09:33:01 AM

I think this is a good example as to why those who don’t participate in the marketplace have no business in the DT system.

Perfect example, and it hasn't even been the first to come by..

Thule

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Real debate, huh? Just like your understanding of "facts?" You wouldn't know a "real debate" if that was the name of a pit bull latched on to your ass.

Says an abuser and merit whore who posts false feedbacks.
But you know what i give you the chance to proof your negative feedback to be legit here

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being called out as having an alt that was used to scam.

Please show me my alt which has scammed people on which i have been called out.

cryptohunter

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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on March 19, 2019, 11:37:10 AM

Quote from: cryptohunter on March 19, 2019, 11:08:22 AM

suchmoon is terrified of any kind of real debate

Real debate, huh? Just like your understanding of "facts?" You wouldn't know a "real debate" if that was the name of a pit bull latched on to your ass.

Dire posting Wolf boy again managing to

1. feltch suchmoon hoping for some merit scraps.
2. sig spam his "highly paid sig"
3. allow me to highlight this

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50066731

thanks come tell me more about these " opposite of facts" lol

Back to flipping those burgers wolf boy.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 19, 2019, 09:33:01 AM

I think this is a good example as to why those who don’t participate in the marketplace have no business in the DT system.

Who are you referring to, exactly? And why is it you think someone who hasn't been involved in this particular marketplace on this particular forum is so inexperienced in life and/or trading that they're unable to notice someone stringing a lender along and acting in a reprehensible manner? That is a ridiculously illogical conclusion, and it's nothing more than a veiled attempt to throw a pebble at the DT system.

Quote from: cryptohunter on March 19, 2019, 11:08:22 AM

TL;DR

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Quote from: cryptohunter on March 19, 2019, 11:08:22 AM

suchmoon is terrified of any kind of real debate

Real debate, huh? Just like your understanding of "facts?" You wouldn't know a "real debate" if that was the name of a pit bull latched on to your ass.

cryptohunter

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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG

suchmoon is terrified of any kind of real debate

she deleted this for being "trolling" haha

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He paid it back - with obscene interest albeit late.= neutral with warning " paid but late, perhaps stick to small loans sub 0.5 btc to be on the safe side"

I don't think it was cool to lose contact with the lender though at any point. That can be stressful. However, would anyone destroy a legend account for this tiny amount?

I mean you lend with no collateral then you will expect some stress now and then right? hence why you get insane interest.
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Suchmoon willing to give those implicated in extortions benefit of the doubt and even include them in her trust list lol

suchmoon willing to look the other with proven liars includes them in her trust list

Suchmoon willing to promote and sanction the actions of those caught red handed racist trolling under puppet accounts to sig spam for extra btc dust includes them in her trust list

Suchmoon basically willing to give any "pals" a get out of jail free card for proven lying, scamming, greedy sneaky actions and trust abuse

suchmoron

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I think this is a good example as to why those who don’t participate in the marketplace have no business in the DT system.

asche

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Quote from: asche on March 19, 2019, 05:36:05 AM

Dear all

I just read this thread with increasing interest.
While marco made a mistake, repaying late, and not handling the business professionally maybe the reaction is a bit harsh. Let's have a look at the facts:

He repaid late
He was difficult to contact for the lender
The lender hasn't left him a negative
The lender left him a positive rating

If we now compare the situation to a "traditional" market place like ebay or alike, it wouldn't be possible to leave a negative for the business handled by others.

The negatives he received are not wrong per so but some are a bit harsh and not as factual as they should in my opinion

Quote from: The Pharmacist

This member is proving himself to be untrustworthy as far as taking loans go, and I'll review this feedback if and when he pays back the loan from the reference thread.

I would invite The Pharmacist to review his feedback and state that the repayment, while late was paid. Choosing Neutral or Red is of little importance.

Quote from: suchmoon

Failing to repay a loan, again.

Why not be more specific and say it was a late repayment. With this feedback you will let people think he actually completely defaulted on the loan which he didn't (unless I missed something).

A fair warning is let potential lenders know he is often repaying late, but he actually is repaying (until now). Why overreach?
Going any further is doing harm he doesn't deserve in my opinion.

Posting a double here for reference, as the discussion seems to go on over here.

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