Topic: margin terminal - over 25 spot and futures exchanges! Bots and more - page 207. (Read 268890 times)

Yup. Any idea when the next release will be and what will be changed? We're still very eagerly waiting for a profit/loss per day kind of thing per coin/market, etc. and/or a way to setup smaller automated trades with offset stats and have leonardo populate this for us, vs manually doing orders .

I see mArgin maker and Ping pong strategies in leonArdo, do you have plan to implement more strategies such as ARB and balancing?

Alt coins are performing incredibly...

Thanks for helping out guys!

Overall, I agree it's a good strategy, but I have observed this happening when funds were there too - unfortunately. That is on us to get to the bottom of!

All the best,
Jonathan

Yup, that's it. After I start leaving at least 1% of whatever coin and BTC in reserve related to it, that has not come up.

Thanks got it!

The best I can tell is that it does that when it's trying to draw funds that aren't available (perhaps the coin value has increased). Try to leave some btc & altcoin for a bit of wiggle room.

Another question:

From time to time it happens that a window pops up

 "One active order remains. Do you want to cancel it?"

Im pretty sure that I didnt accidently press buttons, so why it is happening?

And deosnt matter what Im clicking "yes / no" the bot stops on that currency.

thx

I remind it again
 - Different colors for sell and buy sections/buttons.

Ilove leonardo but hate myself
I did it again
accidental buy instead of sell

Thanks a lot for all your detailed answers! Helps a lot!

After a couple of hours playing around , and doing allready profit I start to understand...

Thanks a lot for your help

I just want to add (since you can't give trading advice) is that if you set it at 20%, the likelihood of you ever making the trades to make that happen are very slim. It might take weeks.

If you want to make any money using margin bot, you'll need to set it to a negative amount (say -1 or -2%). Yes, it sucks to lose money. But if you lose a dollar now, you give yourself the potential to make $20 in the next few trades.

No worries, your answers are better 

Just saw your answer now. Thanks!!

Thanks for checking out leonArdo!

Let me run through your questions.

>> 1.  There is this Profit/Loss: But thats only shows "margin trading" result? Is there a conclusion somewhere , to see profits/loss from the exchange?
Not yet, but there will be.

>> 2. WHat happen in the red area?
I assume you are talking about the mArgin maker bot. The blue area encapsulates the min and max trade that occured in the time window for which it is active. The red area is a relative percentage of that which tells the bot where to place the next buy/sell. Of course as the window shifts with passing time the height of the blue area will change and therefore the prices at which buy and sells occur will also change. It's dynamic.

>> 3. What happens in the upper and lower blue area? I know its called "by margin" and "sell margin" <-- but thats not "margin trading" right? *confused*
See previous answer.

>> 4. Is there a generell "sell/buy margin" settings, that suppose to be more safe or risky?
No. You need to look at each currency pair, volume, history, bring your own experience etc. and then decide how to set up the bot! But you can use the demo to practice

>> 5. The "minm. effective gain". I can read what the context menue tells me, but I dont understand it. If I put it on 20% what happens? Is it for the whole time, for any bet?
If you set the Min Effective Gain to 20% then after the first buy, the bot will place the next sell order at a price that ensures after trading fees have been deducted that you get a +20% win. The same happens if you start with a sell.

>> 6. Does the bot stopp at some point trading? After a period of time? Or trades?
No. You need to manually stop the bot.

>> 7. "Start with / sell/buy" Is that just the first trade, or a longterm setting?
Just the first order. The bot tries to buy/sell over and over again, making gains each time.


I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

One newbie helping another here, so I will do my best.  First I would say watch the videos in the first post, the interface is a bit different, but the concepts are the same.  Secondly start learning with the ping pong until you get the hang of how this works.  It has far less options, since it is a simple process, but it is a great way to use your existing trading knowledge to learn the interface.

As for your points:

1:  It doesn't track this now, or at least it doesn't show it.  It has been requested a lot.
2:  Read area is the selling area, it is limited by your settings.  The videos show how to change this.  Generally if you have mostly empty rules it tries to sell around the dotted line at the bottom of the red area.
3:  Lower blue is buy area, again see videos.  Generally if you have mostly empty rules it tries to buy around the dotted line at the top of the blue area.
4:  Again, see the videos for a coverage of the settings.  Also remember they can't give trading advice so you will have to seek that out elsewhere or do some trial and error.
5:  This tells the job your expected profit or loss from the run.  0% or positive means the job must create a trade in your margins that will at least yield that % of profit, however it can get blocked since sometimes you need to take a loss to keep going.  Going negative allows for loss to occur in the hopes you make it back up.  Something that needs some experience to use correctly.
6:  No, however it can create a trade that can't be filled (market moved outside your limits) or it cannot meet your min effective.
7:  Yes that is for first trade for that bot, for that session.  Make sure to check this, I have done the double buy mistake before.

Biggest thing to remember is that there aren't magic numbers to make it work, and each market IS different.  

Hey,
Im very new to (any) trading software. So far I just bought and sale manually in long term, so thats why I have some(maybe very stupid) questions. I was searching for a tutorial that explains "every button" but I cant find it. I know there is a "help context" but that doesnt help in all cases:

The software is running now, for 2x app. 12 hours and it seems that it does the job well. It onl ycan seem to me, because I dont no really what Im doing...but i t works

1.  There is this Profit/Loss: But thats only shows "margin trading" result? Is there a conclusion somewhere , to see profits/loss from the exchange?
2. WHat happen in the red area?
3. What happens in the upper and lower blue area? I know its called "by margin" and "sell margin" <-- but thats not "margin trading" right? *confused*
4. Is there a generell "sell/buy margin" settings, that suppose to be more safe or risky?
5. The "minm. effective gain". I can read what the context menue tells me, but I dont understand it. If I put it on 20% what happens? Is it for the whole time, for any bet?
6. Does the bot stopp at some point trading? After a period of time? Or trades?
7. "Start with / sell/buy" Is that just the first trade, or a longterm setting?

Do you know any tutorials that helps my confusion? If seen tha tits from leonArdo, bunt it looks its for people that allready knows the "trading system".

btw, is that the thread ok to ask? Or is there a dummy section somewhere?

thx

Just downloaded the Polo Demo. I have been running it a couple of hours now and definitely agree with the others about a profit +- for each bot or even strategy. I'm doing the rough math in my head to check if my strategies are working out, but a more concrete number would be great. after a buy and sell, is there a way to see on the chart what buy was sold where? (when running multiple strategies)

as for the settings, I've been playing around with them and understand the Min effective gain being not a bad idea in low negatives (-1 or so) but the effective gains on the charts (while green is profit) anyone have advice of if this should be smaller to take profits sooner or a little larger to take bigger profit? what type of tips does anyone have? this is the best bot I've seen but I'd like to make sure I can make a profit before I buy of course.

Margin, I like all the indicators and the drag details on the chart are wonderful! the black screen is really friendly for the eyes too, great work on this!

Thanks for this! We'll look into it.

Impressive report!

Best wishes,
Jonathan

Ok I brought up the app and left it alone with some markets up for about 60 minutes.  During this time I watched the updates and reviewed the data gathered to determine the refresh cycles each market did.  Quite interesting differences here.  On all of these the majority of the sync windows were on the long side and not the quick side.

BTC/USD

Quickest sync cycle:  12 seconds
Longest sync cycle:  13 minutes

RLC/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  10 seconds
Longest sync cycle:  3 minutes

LTC/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  1 second, saw lots coming in back to back
Longest sync cycle:  2 minutes
This one was a horrible sync cycle the other day during it's big run, this is actually the one that got me to notice the issue at first.

DASH/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  1 second, saw lots coming in back to back
Longest sync cycle:  3 minutes

STRAT/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  5 seconds
Longest sync cycle:  3 minutes

TRST/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  2 minutes
Longest sync cycle:  5 minutes


To me it looks like an API issue with either some rate limiting being applied or just heavy use.  That being said there is nothing in the app side that would show me attempts to query the API and getting a failure.  When there is minute(s) between API refreshes, and there is vertical movement on the market the app cannot determine the correct places to place the buy/sell points since it is off considerable amounts during the fast movement cycles.

Very strange. Can you tell me which pairs were particularly outdated?