Topic: Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 15. (Read 647170 times)

An engineer needs Martin Armstrong to understand?

Perhaps time to go back to school to catch up?

Gestern wusste ich nicht wie man das Wort "Ingenieur" schreibt, heute bin ich einen.


But remember the joke about tigers. Why do you blow the horn? To keep the tigers away. But there are no tigers here. There you see!

origin-AL, wow, great find, right in haters and spammers face. One to wonder how many of these haters are paid ones, or MA is in their way by him exposing the truth.
And you are correct for the 2018 correction on DOW. It was on his private blog (I had access at the time).
Whoever doubts that, still can check on his private blog, from end of January 2018.

Lol, I might actually believe it, just look at this pure coincidence blog post today:  


Hey, add this to his totally-not-ambiguous forecast:  


2020/01/24 DOW price: 28,989.73
2020/03/23 DOW price: 18,591.93

Oops.


Oh yeah, please tell me, why would he promote his website? He has no ads there. So it is to get a readership? But then if @AnonymousCoder successfully sends Marty behind the bars, his website will actually lose views-count.  
So it seems to me that he has no agenda here, except revealing the obvious truth?  
But hey since you are the genius here, maybe you could elaborate what is his fraud here?


Lol... Nice try yet again.

Marty, I mean origin-AL, I would agree with you if he did not claim to have a self aware, self conscious AI system deeply embedded in a DOSBox emulator.

Marty claims to predict events precisely to the day years in advance. So yes, it should be just as simple as a computer printing out a chart of the future years in advance. After all, that's what you're claiming, right Marty, I mean origin-AL?

Lol so easily convinced. 

Answer:

Previously, in 2019, Gumbi emailed me that

This latest development (we call it a u-turn) just proves that his house of cards is collapsing.

More specifically, he is pissed off that he cannot sell his Manipulating the World Economy at triple the gift to humanity price any more because that scam has been exposed at The Book Sellout Bargain Confidence Trick.


And now he's back wasting his time providing premium level entertainment for all of us - during his sleepless nights - Martin Armstrong just keep posting - we can' get enough of it.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case at econsumer.gov

So Gumbi just finally REVEALed himself as the real Martin Armstrong who has been posting promotional lies here, in this private message to AnonymousCoder.  But various other forum participants have already guessed this out sometime in 2019.

Defamation is only valid if the person being sued is NOT telling the truth.

Checkmate back at Martin Armstrong.

Let's think for a bit.  WHY would a great "forecaster" Martin Armstrong bother to sue anyone, when his forecasting record is supposedly impeccable, and supposedly making all of his subscribers so filthy rich, and that his forecasting record should have spoken for itself?

WHY?  WHY?  I don't think I need to tell you the answers.

Lol, thanks need the comic relief.

More comedy please

Yes, these are all just possibilities, its not just so simple that the computer prints out a chart of the future for you.   

If the turning point approaches, AND you are seeing a high in the market, AND it bounces off a bullish reversal and doesn't elect,  that gives you a high probability trade with a low downside stop above the reversal in case there is a cycle inversion. 

To be more sure you can choose to wait for price action confirmation or use whatever indicators you normally use.  Everyone trades differently and uses this tool differently, just another tool in your toolbox.  In fact he recommends on the site that you combine this with your own trading system.

You don;t have to pay for it if you don't like, he never promised trading signals, it's a tool that many appreciate.  There are many big money people that have followed this man for decades and gotten much richer, they do not mind paying the fee at all.  Like I said, everything ain't for everyone, you don't like it just move on and do what works for you.

PROOF:

PM from Gumbi to AnonymousCoder today:



So you are invited to inspect his more than 160 posts in this forum to discover more of his personality as he keeps lying and duping people, posing as someone else obviously, using this forum to advertise his wares in a way similar to the fake fan emails on his own site.

Did I fail to mention that this man is a fraud?



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case at econsumer.gov

in other words, 2020 close of 23327.46 (below 2018 low) will mean it's a low... Oh really now?? So marty's convoluted thought process on a self fulfilling prophecy is: A low is a low when 2020 closing is lower than 2018 closing, therefore you have a low predicted by Socrates precisely to the day.


in other words, a 2020 close of 24876 indicates a POSSIBILITY that it will be a high? or go higher? But it's just a possibility, so it could go lower, who knows!?

and if 2020 is a high, then 2021 is a low, and then 2022 it just keeps on going up.

People pay for this crap? All he is saying is a lower low is a low. and a higher high is a high.



And are we going to completely ignore the FAILED OIL PREDICTIONS and the FAILED OIL ARRAYS!?

PROOF https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54266763

HIS 1996 OIL ARRAYS FAILED TO FORECAST THE 2020 OIL CRASH!

LOOK AT THE VIDEO AT 4:10.

2020. NO PANIC CYCLE!
2020. LITTLE TO NO VOLATILITY!

Done

Martin Armstrong is publishing misleading content here under his handle Gumbi.

What is he saying this time? Nothing new. The charlatan is trying to sell his wares. But the game is over. He is being ridiculed and he does not deserve any respect because he is just wasting other people's time.

Bankrupt.

He also recently posted here as m96. Gumbi needed a break because he has fallen flat on his face here once again.

His scheme has been exposed many times. The damage is done. Irreversible damage. It's a scam. Game over. There are just too many facts.

You are welcome to check the facts here.

The charlatan has no clothes.


Marty, unfortunately MANY people who bought your reports are very unhappy.

Please refer to the following recent sample case:

Fraudulent Blog Post Revisions

If you want to contact Marty directly, just send a private message here: Contact Martin Armstrong and daughter.

Once again Martin Armstrong is denied the option to use this forum for fraudulent advertising. Yes, fraudulent advertising, false advertising. And we are here to take corrective action with information, just the facts.

Meanwhile, our themes of the day are still "Which Government has asked Martin Armstrong for Advice?", "Socrates Technical Analysis Prediction Magic" and "Economic Advice by Martin Armstrong".


And you get your standard reminder as promised. You fight facts with spam, you get the warning. You have been warned!

As previously said, Gumbi's and cohorts' posts get replied to in a way that will remind them of the context in which we showed them that Martin Armstrong is a charlatan.

Let him be reminded again that we have a model case where this behavior is documented in much detail. Here we show how Martin Armstrong's fraud manifests itself. Beyond any doubt. A self-documenting case. It actually saves time and effort to repeat this as opposed to wasting the time trying to argue this same type of thing without end.

Whatever smokescreen over45, Gumbi, m96, Alex-11 and cohorts are coming up with now, they get this reply. I know they just want this message to go away but I am not going to do Martin Armstrong the favor.

The pattern is the same again and again: Pick one of the ambiguous conflicting Socrates signals in hindsight to argue the case. For us, there is no need to formulate a custom response to that. We use this standard response that documents the following model case. To show everyone what these charlatans are doing.

I have an obligation to spread the message for the honest people, and as painful as it is for me, I am going to persevere until the Armstrong promoters shut up. So they are warned. The honest people have all the facts on their side.



Here we go. You are providing the proof of my assertion yourself!

Hindsight, Fraud. This hindsight message is fraudulent misrepresentation of performance, pure fraud!
Now here you are saying, and I know you are speaking for Martin Armstrong, that


Martin Armstrong had this information, this bullish signal, the fact that his model went long - at the end of the year - but at the same time failed to tell his clients?

In fact he sent the opposite signal to his clients at the time!

If he knew this at the time when he claimed the system went long, and let's assume for the sake of argument that what you say is true then he could have been trading against his clients because he published this signal only three months later.

You are not worth the respect of a single honest being on earth! You are a fraud!


And yes, I have all the reports. How could I otherwise quote them? I have everything!

More importantly, all other people who lost, they have everything as well.



Here is a detailed time line of the events:


Quarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Hi Origin allow newbies to send you a private message under profile, personal message options

https://vimeo.com/400842901

This was from his conference Oct 19.

I think Anonymous Coder is the real fraud trying to promote his website.  Think, why would someone be so obsessed with hating on another man every day?  If you don't find Socrates useful just don't use it, everything ain't for everyone..

Martin has  been spot on the DOW.  JAN  2018 called a sell to the day.  Then foretasted a likely down to sideways market with, ideally a low in jan 2020.  After the 18 high was exceeded we warned that a high on the 2020 turning point would indicate a severe correction there after.

I have never seen anyone else even remotely more useful as Martin.  The haters here are ether looking sort term or completely do not understand how to use socrates.  I'ts not a magic computer giving you buy and sell signals, more like weather forecasting.  Martins forecasts are very long term and he is often looking at charts where a year or quarter are one candle. 

As far as reversals and arrays, they tend to work great in a trending/volatile market even on the daily.  Not so well in chop but you can trade against them as support/resistance on a range.

As for him spending 11 years in jail, he was held in contempt the entire time without a charge and the people he supposedly defrauded did everything they could to help him and come to his defense...

Anyone who is in the ECM group please send me an invite.

It should be noted that people who give a voice to people like Armstrong are nearly as bad. This includes Jim Puplava and the guys on financialsense and Eric King.

I used to sell a lot on eBay and under their seller rules, annoyingly, MA is doing nothing wrong.

He is not defrauding eBay, he is conning his audience.

I also find it unlikely he is using the same IP for both eBay accounts, or might not manage the pseudonym account just to cover his ass. Instead, based on the item location, it is someone local to him. Or he might be using his (rented) office location to manage one account and home location for the other, so ensuring different laptops/IPs.

Regardless, quite how someone who is not MA has 130+ copies of his much "sought" after book, and a signed copy of the 1st Edition, is curious. Would someone really spend $13,000+ buying $95 priced copies to then resell for $300? How did they buy so many when the chance to purchase the book is so unlikely? This is all part of the scam.

It seems VERY far fetched, and a lot of risk and effort for such a random item that also requires physical handling. We know from MAs non-stop content he clearly has a lot of time on his hands, so put two and two together...

I quote Cialdini's book Influence to get further insight into the person MA is - a charlatan who uses confidence tricks that exploit the known flaws in the human psyche (scarcity/urgency, authority, social proof) - and all to line his own pockets:

"Advertisers love to inform us when a product is the “fastest-growing” or “largest-selling” because they don’t have to convince us directly that the product is good, they need only say that many others think so, which seems proof enough... The message being communicated to the holdouts is clear: 'Look at all the people who have decided to give. It must be the correct thing to do.'”

"Since that encounter with the scarcity principle—that opportunities seem more valuable to us when their availability is limited..."

"A variant of the deadline tactic is much favored by some face-to-face, high-pressure sellers because it carries the purest form of decision deadline: right now. Customers are often told that unless they make an immediate decision to buy, they will have to purchase the item at a higher price or they will be unable to purchase it at all."
Cialdini PhD, Robert B.. Influence


Why the sold out book though? That is also simple to understand, where it is used to build on his authority, credibility and so make it easier to upsell more expensive products, like the WECs.

"The reason people aspire to call themselves “bestselling author” is because it dramatically increases your credibility and “personal brand.” It can establish you as a thought leader. You’re able to show that you not only wrote a book, but that the market has judged it to be better than other books out there. It’s a status symbol, one of that cashes in on the prestige of one of man’s oldest past-times. At last, I had acquired this coveted title for myself."
https://medium.com/the-mission/behind-the-scam-what-does-it-take-to-be-a-best-selling-author-3-and-5-minutes-ec05cee1749a

And the two eBay accounts exist where one ("official") is used to sell a limited batch of books at the lower price, building trust/credibility and scarcity/urgency. The other account ("pseudonym") is used to sell an - eventually - higher volume of books at 3x the price, which is what the lower price book sales is designed to accelerate.

Unfortunately, he is not violating eBay policy, even if the ethics are totally wrong. My guess is his "official" eBay account IS selling to legitimate buyers at $95, perhaps with some friends and family helping him out using their eBay accounts.

He then has a secondary batch of books that he sells via his other account at $300. Either he or perhaps a contact in his office, home or local area (same item location for both accounts), has access to that account and is likely using a different laptop, perhaps on a separate internet connection as well. That would only to be cover his ass and sidestep eBay's automated policy checking.

eBay does not like VPNs and seems to detect shared VPNs, which often sees bids or listings cancelled or accounts shut down - and very quickly.

That said, even if he was managing both accounts from the same IP, MA is not violating any selling policy on Ebay, where you are allowed more than one account when selling different items. And he is of course!

One account is selling the 2nd Edition, while his official eBay account is selling the 3rd Edition, and rarely is there much overlap.

That might be why he keeps publishing multiple editions of his book - nothing more than to game platforms like eBay and perhaps in some way, Amazon as well.

Here is the eBay policy:
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/duplicate-listings-policy?id=4255

Yet more charlatan entertainment from MA! Another poster on this board DM'ed me about something odd they noticed about MA's recent foray into eBay.

I too had observed their claims and then pieced together what is likely to be a clever fraud, a confidence trick that is used by snake oil salesmen. Similar to the 'bait and switch' technique. Get this:

There is a seller on eBay - morgonz54 - who seems to have VERY easy access to MA's "much" sought after book Manipulating the World Economy that is allegedly printed in very limited quantities and sells out in 15 minutes:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/morgonz54/m.html?_nkw&_armrs=1&_ipg&_from&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684

In total, since opening their account end of Jan 2020, and listing MA's book since early Feb 2020, they have sold 137 copies of Manipulating the World Economy bagging around $41k in book sales, where the Buy It Now price is $300. There is still one active listing here, with another TEN copies available. Where are they getting all of this inventory from, especially if the book sells out in "15 minutes"?:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Manipulating-the-World-Economy-Martin-Armstrong/402241091575

If you check the first link I post above, the day with the busiest numbers of new auctions for seller morgonz54 is 24 March 2020. They put up FIVE separate Buy It Now listings for the second edition starting at 15:36 up to 23:05 hrs.

Now check the eBay account that MA links to from his blog - presumably this is his eBay account (caesar315eb) - and see the sold listings:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/caesar315eb/m.html?item=324141916183&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684

Notice the day he lists the THIRD EDITION is on 24 March at 15:55 hrs, some 20 minutes after morgonz54 uploads the second edition to eBay. Now let's check the item LOCATIONS of both sellers:


morgonz54
Saint Petersburg, Florida, United States
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Manipulating-the-World-Economy-Martin-Armstrong/402132543898?hash=item5da0f7a99a:g:Y0EAAOSw7PNeLP4W

caesar315eb
Saint Petersburg, Florida, United States
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Manipulating-The-World-Economy-by-Martin-Armstrong/324113741479?hash=item4b76af36a7:g:1tgAAOSwzrZeelYq


Coincidence?

• Both accounts are located in the exact same city
• Both accounts ONLY sell MA's book Manipulating the World Economy
• Both accounts have listed the same item on the same day within <30 minutes
• The "non-MA" account also has his very "rare" 1st edition of MtWE and a signed copy at that.

MA busted. Yet. Again.

More likely, MA probably does manage or knows someone who can manage the morgonz54 account. Then his other account that is publicly promoted: caesar315eb is where he sells the "for public good" editions, where: "the price was kept low at $95 to enable everyone of all means to be able to purchase the book". Sure thing Martin!

Those either are legit sales on his "known" eBay account, or are sold to someone (himself?) to then list all of them back onto eBay under the pseudonym account - morgonz54 - at the $300, so that it maintains the mirage that MA is doing this for the public good ($95), but other people are taking advantage and selling the book at a huge premium ($300+). That then creates the scarcity/urgency psychology, which has netted MA tens of thousands of dollars if we believe morgonz54 is also owned or linked to him in some way. It also maintains the mystique around MA that his cultish following laps up and hands over $thousands for WEC's, reports and subs.

Also, see this 26 Jan 2020 blog post where MA seems to be "planting" the thought that $300 is "fair value" (not ignoring the contradictory statements if you compare his above quote):

"I have heard that the 2nd edition which sold out on Amazon in less than 3 hours has been selling in an auction on average at $275+ so I suppose $300 is reasonable... the 1st and 2nd editions always go for a premium... Even a 5th edition of Malthus will bring $3,000 these days."


He is also planting a thought in his readers mind that even the 5th Edition will be worth more than what they paid.

Expect the book trick to go on for a long time, especially now his WECs are all cancelled.

I am not sure if the eBay trick is not him using multiple accounts. eBay is very sophisticated in cancelling or deleting accounts that bid on auctioned items even with a VPN. However, if it is Buy it Now, it is very easy to create and use fake accounts, where the transaction is instant and the listing is not removed until payment is made. So that is also why none of the listings are auctions, meaning the purchases on MA's official eBay account might be fake as part of the confidence trick.

It seems a bit suspect that MA is releasing some book, but ONLY in limited quantities and naturally it sells out in 15 minutes. Why not sell it via his website as well? Probably because eBay has publicly visible sales data that adds to the game he's trying to play...

Also, why not sell it digitally? If there is this much "demand", he could be making a mint selling it digitally, but alas that doesn't have any urgency/scarcity behind it, so he is VERY much playing a psychological game here.

Classic snake oil salesman tactic and I remain convinced MA is a student of Cialdini. He is a great salesman and does not know trading or even economics that well. He is an expert in human psychology, trickery, sales... And scams.

And he went to jail for it.

Ha, I enjoy your sarcasm.

I think he does have a "magic" program, but it runs in MSDOS (pre-Window era), and it probably generates those cryptic timing array plots with ancient low-resolution BAR graph with limited colors.  But of course, Armstrong claims that his program is self-aware, monitors global capital, and runs on a government-owned Super-Computer (Sequoia) and takes about 100% of the annual capacity of that, when it's supposedly for government usage only.

I think about the only thing that Armstrong's MSDOS program maybe has automated is converting price trends into English sentences, as if those sentences have any predicative powers, but just hindsight that cannot be traded for any profits.  But hey, they always sound so correct, because that's all in the PAST.  Well, when the future prices come, you bet the "correct" sentences will be uttered again, but Armstrong could NOT tell you ahead of time by giving you any buy/sell signals.  Instead, he asks you to attend stupid expensive conferences as if he hid some tricks up in his sleeves, when there is just more BS.

Just Google search "Armstrong WEC reviews", and find out for yourself about his WEC conferences.

Oh, by the way.  He not only has a girlfriend, but he also has (at least) a daughter.  He "claimed" that he dissembled his AI computer (which should be the size of a building if it's real, but of course, it was just a PC), and his daughter felt sad about the AI dying.  Well, I think that whole thing was made up, just to show people that his "AI computer" passed the Turing test for Artificial Intelligence.  Well, that's quite some A(I)-ss story for this "legendary" liar.