Topic: Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 10. (Read 647170 times)

Then Martin Armstrong makes an invaluable amount of money.

Hey what happens when you trade and your timing is off?

Martin Armstrong is publishing misleading content here under his handle Gumbi as shown in Martin Armstrong The Hyper Shill.

He also recently posted here as m96. Gumbi needed a break because he was exposed and he fell on his face here once before.

He is barred from association with a financial advisor by court order but here he is telling us we are not traders if we are not following his advice. Would this not be illegal?

Now he is telling us we should have traded based exclusively on non-existing (missing) Socrates trading signals to avoid the loss from trading based on generated bad Socrates trading signals:


There WAS a sell signal on the quarterly time frame which he doesn't want us to see.



His scheme has been exposed many times. The damage is done. Irreversible damage. It's a scam. Game over. There are just too many facts.

You are welcome to check the facts here.

The charlatan has no clothes.

Marty, unfortunately MANY people who bought your reports are very unhappy.

Please refer to the following recent sample case:

Fraudulent Blog Post Revisions

If you want to contact Marty directly, just send a private message here: Contact Martin Armstrong and daughter.

Once again Martin Armstrong is denied the option to use this forum for fraudulent advertising. Yes, fraudulent advertising, false advertising. And we are here to take corrective action with information, just the facts.

Meanwhile, our themes of the day are still

"The Martin Armstrong Scam - Where and how to complain", "Gumbi IS Martin Armstrong", "Which Government has asked Martin Armstrong for Advice?", "Socrates Technical Analysis Prediction Magic" and "Economic Advice by Martin Armstrong".


And you Gumbi get your standard reminder as promised. You fight facts with spam, you get the warning. You have been warned!

As previously said, Gumbi's and cohorts' posts get replied to in a way that will remind them of the context in which we showed them that Martin Armstrong is a charlatan.

Let him be reminded again that we have a model case where this behavior is documented in much detail. Here we show how Martin Armstrong's fraud manifests itself. Beyond any doubt. A self-documenting case. It actually saves time and effort to repeat this as opposed to wasting the time trying to argue this same type of thing without end.

Whatever smokescreen over45, Gumbi, m96, Alex-11 and cohorts are coming up with now, they get this reply. I know they just want this message to go away but I am not going to do Martin Armstrong the favor.

The pattern is the same again and again: Pick one of the ambiguous conflicting Socrates signals in hindsight to argue the case. For us, there is no need to formulate a custom response to that. We use this standard response that documents the following model case. To show everyone what these charlatans are doing.

I have an obligation to spread the message for the honest people, and as painful as it is for me, I am going to persevere until the Armstrong promoters shut up. So they are warned. The honest people have all the facts on their side.



Here we go. You are providing the proof of my assertion yourself!

Hindsight, Fraud. This hindsight message is fraudulent misrepresentation of performance, pure fraud!
Now here you are saying, and I know you are speaking for Martin Armstrong, that


Martin Armstrong had this information, this bullish signal, the fact that his model went long - at the end of the year - but at the same time failed to tell his clients?

In fact he sent the opposite signal to his clients at the time!

If he knew this at the time when he claimed the system went long, and let's assume for the sake of argument that what you say is true then he could have been trading against his clients because he published this signal only three months later.

You are not worth the respect of a single honest being on earth! You are a fraud!


And yes, I have all the reports. How could I otherwise quote them? I have everything!

More importantly, all other people who lost, they have everything as well.



Here is a detailed time line of the events:


Quarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015


I'd say: Piss off Martin Armstrong, get lost!





Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.


Every single defrauded person should report their case at econsumer.gov

You're contradicting yourself here.

But we'll see.

Armstrong is still calling this a false rally and a retest of the march low is still in play, the timing may be off but this information is invaluable. most people have jumped back into the market thinking we are off to new highs.


Gold failed to elect its yearly bearish reversal in 2015 at 1044.5 so based on the reversals it worked out quite nicely as there was no sell signal on the yearly level. You should only be following the reversals, not Armstrong's opinion.

Not really true if you read through his blogposts back then:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54513757

He's kind of suggesting that it could be a temp low, but a real bottom call? He was still looking for lower lows later, and then retests of course. That's not what I would call calling the low.

With Gold he's been wrong ever since 2015; and a correction into the second half of the year is also very, very vague.

Martin is useless when it comes to trading .
He correctly call the low in march .but missed calling the huge rally .
For gold ,he call the 1755 high correctly .a correction into second half for gold means the stock might see some really crazy action ..

This is a new type of generic regular broadcast message. It is timely in a way because traffic of this blog is high, and it will hopefully reach a larger audience than before.

As we have exposed many times, Martin Armstrong makes forecasts like a shotgun, let's say for the sake of argument twenty a the time.

The majority will fail and the minority, typically only one will succeed. He then praises the success of the minority successful forecasts, but conveniently forgets about the failures or manipulates them after the fact to appear successful.

Guess why we do not find any track record on his site, only at armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com and Precious Metals Analyst Accountability.

That is why Martin Armstrong is talking to himself in his "public" blog echo chamber and posting in public forums as his own shill. He censors user comments to put it mildly.

So far so good.

The Socrates system, that according to his claims is free of human bias and never wrong, is supposedly not subject to the above confidence tricks.


The Socrates system, by means of its ambiguity, is not different from the charlatan scheme described above.

That is why I have been writing for months about Computerized Fraud, using a perhaps somewhat odd term.

Take the time and read every page of armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com and you will discover that Socrates with its built-in ambiguity will only line the pockets of Martin Armstrong but it will never even be verifiable with regards to its advertised performance.

The simple reason for the above is that it is based on human interpretation in hindsight.

But one thing is guaranteed: It will effectively impoverish its users short term and long term.

Because it's a scam.

Thanks for reading.



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

Not sure why anyone would care if a retail trader like AnonymousCoder makes a bad trade.
What I do care about is a total twat like Armstrong who's giving bad advice after bad advice while he's stuffing his pockets full of money from other people.

Dow Jones closed above 27000. Now what? Is Armstrong suddenly turning bullish, after missing an almost 50% rally of the lows?!?


This Reddit-guy is exactly right

Just for the record AnonymousCoder will always be remembered as the fool who sold gold against Socrates Yearly Bearish Reversal at the end of December 2015 at 1044.5 which was not elected, that’s like selling the Dow at the end of the year just above its yearly bearish at 15480.

not only did u trade against the yearly bearish reversal you also traded against the ECM Major Turning Point date 2015.75 which gold was crashing into only to rally up into the next  ECM Major Turning Point date 2020.05.


the real question is how stupid can you be to actually make this trade?

See the comments section of:
JPMorgan Is "Counting The Days" Until The Second Covid Wave

Click down next pages until you find:

Expendable Container

This is Martin Armstrong's language and tactic:

The Rhetoric of Hitler's "Battle"

A key element of his strategy. In one simple sentence. Whether it is Armstrong himself or not, it does not matter. I am not claiming that he is unique. He is perhaps looking for inspiration for his next blog article on the subject of one of his current campaigns.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

I have the suspicion that they are spamming their own forum over at the Armstrong shill censored reddit group with the aim to let the more embarrassing messages scroll away. Proof: Because it is against their own policy to post the private blog posts in public. Lesser than two evils.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

After missing a whopping 40+% rally of the lows, now Armstrong says that June was always the target. Bravo Marty, amazing forecast as usual!

So tech companies have been outperforming the broader market since 2008; and suddenly NOW Armstrong starts to notice it?!? Awesome analysis Marty!
And let's call it a "Paradigm shift in equities", because it give some grandeur feel to stating the obvious.

And how is the Euro doing? Is it already toilet paper? Oh wait, it's positive for the year.

"Assuming we see a new high this week on Wednesday or Friday"...

I'm sorry, but since today there were new records in the rally of the March lows, what a bunch of bullocks Marty...
Why does he assume all kinds of things. Since the March lows he's been dead wrong, wrong, wrong.

"The fact that the NASDAQ elected the Weekly Bullish strongly suggests that the low is in place there."

Right on, Marty! It's almost at ffing new all time highs. The low might hold, gentlemen! Of course he can fall back on his bearish reversals not being selected, while he's 'suggesting' all kinds of things.

Man, even Bozo the Clown flipping a coin would do a better job ... nice find

edit: I see Marty really reads his blog, he directly updated his Socrates' website logo:

I fully agree. It is not a surprise really. He has only one objective which is to extract money from his audience with whatever means are available to him.

Proof: He is even selling his marketing brochures!

And as you say, he is not alone, and in fact this is not off topic at all. It is parasitic behavior, not helpful. He does not even generate original content - it is all re-published from sources gleaned from zerohedge etc..

I could ask myself - what am I doing here blogging - do I actually make a difference myself?

I think I do because I am definitely saving people money by providing content that lets people evaluate Armstrong's scam. I know people have lost MILLIONS trading based on the Socrates crap.

I am not introducing additional conspiracy theories - I do not have an agenda of my own. So my service is FACTS - like this one:

Socrates Long Term Past Performance Review -

nothing else. Otherwise, I am working from home and I am generating income from productive activities. My web content does not have ads or any other way to generate cash.



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

Slightly off topic.......

For some silly reason out of curiosity,  I looked through Martins public blog, going back to the beginning of May. It's the same old, same old fear mongering stuff. I'm not saying it is not true. I have similar thoughts about this virus ...ummm....nonesense as well.
I also get that it is in some way devised to get people to sign up for the 'super secret private stuff'.

What really annoys me about this type of subject, (fear mongering), is that in this case, like others, Mr Armstrong usually ends in some way with, 'You must make this change'. 'They must put a stop to it'.  You, they.........

"......that Trump perhaps should look at"
"Trump should give them....."
"The real question is how long will it take for the people to rise up against their own corrupt politicians...."


Mr Armstrong tells us that he has a lot of 'insiders', powerful(?) insiders in some cases, and yet, other than a supposed letter to President Trump, he does nothing himself? He openly tells the public that reads his blog that they must do something, or some arbitrary individual must do something?

What have you done Mr A?
Why doesn't your worldwide circle of friends band together and do something? Maybe if you start, the ordinary folks might join in. Probably not but still, a little influence can go a long way...in either direction.

This is why I have pretty much distanced myself from all of these, "Here's the problem' blogs which offering no solution, or a solution that a citizen can actually successfully do. I find that none of these type of blog writers lift a finger to help right the wrongs that they are so expert at pointing out.

The 'Market ticker's' Denninger is another example. "Hand cuff them all' is the best he can come up with. Useless.

Though it sounds like I am..........I am not arguing against Mr A for the sake of just not liking the feller. I have no like or dislike for him. It's true I no longer have any use for his Socrates system. It's worthless to me.
He is not alone in his fear mongering, no solution, buck passing blog writing. Again though, what annoys me is that he, like others, offer no help...........eh..........you get the picture.

So Mr A. What have you and/or your circle of influential friends done for me/us lately?