Topic: Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 235. (Read 647183 times)

How do some 1% - 2% have the wherewithal to so dominate the 98%+

Just look at the quote:  "Like anything else, nature is the best teacher".  Human life is a story of the individual moseying around, then comes in contact with a collective group who kicks them in the face, forcing the individual into a collective group of their own in order to not go extinct.  Jews practice all these blatantly obvious traits, which is why they're winning, while trying to impose Marxism on everyone else to prevent them from coming together for common interests to compete at all.  They are also heavy into anarchism, except not for their own civilization, only to destabilize others to take them over.

"6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SO-CALLED LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism."


"14. In any State in which there is a bad organization of authority, an impersonality of laws and of the rulers who have lost their personality amid the flood of rights ever multiplying out of liberalism, I find a new right - to attack by the right of the strong, and to scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation, to reconstruct all institutions and to become the sovereign lord of those who have left to us the rights of their power by laying them down voluntarily in their liberalism."

If only it was as simple to explain as "Jews!!"

It is by far more relevant to blame "elites". The La Guarde's, Draghi's, Bernanke's, Rogoff's are all part of guiding the system to suit their interests in the way they believe is best for us (them). It's cronyism and corruption. Same belief in theory, same modelling, same circles, same education, same application to society.

There is no sinister religious overtone. "jews" aren't trying to enslave the worlds population, that is one level down thinking.

If only it was as simple to explain as "Jews!!"

It is by far more relevant to blame "elites".

There is no sinister religious overtone

you don't even seem to be aware that Armstrong managed a fund in Japan that was $3 trillion which was more than half of the US debt at the time.

YOU are the one that brought up FOFOA referencing him first in this thread, not me.

I'm the one that said he claimed silver would go to $0.50 and it went from $5 to $50 INSTEAD.

I then mentioned he expects a gold reval, which everyone and their mom on the planet also expects, only to speculate on what the magic number will be.

Harry Dent and Armstrong's thesis on metals are essentially the same thing at this juncture in time.

Now Armstrong pretends the federal reserve not only doesn't exist, but it's also incapable of creating economic bubbles and it doesn't manipulate metals either!  And things like the PPT don't exist!  Good one, Armstrong!  The fed can easily distort markets to make something behave how it shouldn't for an entire decade or more.  He claims they "can't defeat the trend".  If you can distort a market for an entire decade or more, you have "defeated the trend".

See here - Ibn Khaldun 400 years ago:



Much of his work was ahead of his time and continues to be applicable today.   Adam Smith built onto this work with more great insight.

I didn't see it that way - I took it as if he's saying what Adam Smith and 400 years earlier Ibn Khaldun stayed about cycles ...
Example: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/walmart-stock-decline-ibn-khaldun/410710/

You can create /manipulate upto a limit but the overall cycle will prevail.  Man-made cycle may delay or speed things ...but the overall cycle /nature will win...The Invisible hand always wins.

YOU are the one that brought up FOFOA referencing him first in this thread, not me.  I'm the one that said he claimed silver would go to $0.50 and it went from $5 to $50 INSTEAD.  I then mentioned he expects a gold reval, which everyone and their mom on the planet also expects, only to speculate on what the magic number will be.


Harry Dent and Armstrong's thesis on metals are essentially the same thing at this juncture in time.


Now Armstrong pretends the federal reserve not only doesn't exist, but it's also incapable of creating economic bubbles and it doesn't manipulate metals either!  And things like the PPT don't exist!  Good one, Armstrong!  The fed can easily distort markets to make something behave how it shouldn't for an entire decade or more.  He claims they "can't defeat the trend".  If you can distort a market for an entire decade or more, you have "defeated the trend".

Btw, anyone giving any credence to FOFOA needs their head examined.

Harry S. Dent is another charlatan who has totally changed his thesis after his predictions were totally annihilated by the 2008-9 market collapse.

In 2017, I will publish a breakdown of sectors and the differences between them. Keep in mind that the bulk of the retail public are not yet back in the market. The majority keeps saying how overvalued the market is, yet a substantial amount of people are all looking to buy the dip. Trump will be very good for the US markets and economy. Reducing taxes will bring capital home and it has already resulted in a new 13-year high in consumer confidence. That is the key to the market going into 2018.

The reflection point that will tip the scales to extremely bullish will turn on confidence. What MUST BE UNDERSTOOD here is we have two possible patterns: (1) We leave 2016 as the intraday high temporarily and back off, moving to retest support into 2018, and then rally in a major breakout into 2020, or (2) we press immediately higher and complete the rally by 2018 followed by a harder crash and burn.

These are the two possible paths that are coming up and it will all depend upon the actions and tone we set in January. We will prepare a very important special report on this topic.

The S&P500 indeed closed in cash at 2238.83 one tick below our target resistance we published back on January 28th, 2016 at 2239.8038. The broader trends cannot be altered. It is like trying to make a u-turn in an aircraft carrier versus a speed boat. This does warn of caution for it was 7 years up in time.

Meanwhile, gold held the support, the Dow elected two Daily Bearish Reversals, Crude elected two Minor Yearly Bullish Reversals warning of a test of $60, and the Euro fell to bounce off of its Yearly Bearish Reversal at 10365 reaching 10352 and then failed to elect it. With the US share market up for 7 years in 2015, a pause in trend seems likely failing to elect some critical numbers in various markets. Of course, the long-term remains unchanged. The markets are reflecting something far bigger at stake. Trump is bringing in hope of repairing the economy with consumer confidence at a 13 year high.
Optimism is in the air, but this cannot alter the long-term trend without reforming the debt crisis as we have laid out. Only then can we postpone disaster a little while longer.

So strap yourself in tight. This is going to be a wild ride. We are still facing the total collapse of socialistic systems. So cheer up, this might be the best day of your life if you open your eyes and comprehend the global trend. We will be doing a special report reviewing the year-end closings and what the forecasts will be for 2017.

Trying to understand forecasting will be critical as we move forward. The HUGE turning point appears to be 2018 and that is most likely when things will start to come unglued. How do I even make such a statement? This is not a claim that I make based upon some gut feeling. I arrive at this statement not by looking at some domestic fundamental or speculation on what Trump might do or not. It is not based upon my contacts behind the curtain. This is simply looking at Socrates and nothing else.

So how do I arrive at that statement? It is the process of understanding that everything is connected. A share market in any country will rise if the currency declines to maintain its international value PROVIDED there is still a fundamental level of confidence in the country. If there was an invasion by another country, then no the currency and the share market would collapse because there would be a risk that the nation does not survive and thus there would be no rule of law to support asset values. Hence, we must look beyond the simple chart pattern on an isolated market to the external factors as well to determine the outcome. NO MARKET can be forecast accurately in isolation. Those who simply look at a single market can be correct in the same manner as a broken close is correct twice a day for one second. So we must look at a given market within its sector and then filter it through the lens of international currency.

There is no "bottom" to buy in a dangerous fractional reserve system.  The whole thing can just vaporize at any second whether the price is low or high.

I have argued against the conspiracy theorists who claim gold is not up because it has been manipulated by the bankers. I have fought against the bank “real” manipulations and warned clients when they are in action. But the bankers are not capable of manipulating a market counter trend – nobody is. Japan tried to support the share market after 1989 and failed. We have had 8 years of quantitative easing by Mario Draghi without any success. Not even a central bank can manipulate the economy no less a single market. The entire Plaza Accord was the gathering of 5 countries to try to manipulate the dollar lower for trade. The US Treasury and Federal Reserve Bank could not pull that off. Why listen to such nonsense about gold is manipulated to prevent a rally? These types of nonsense PREVENT you from understanding how the world really works.

When I warned the White House back in 1985 that trying to manipulate the dollar lower creating the G5 would increase the volatility and lead to a crash in 2 years (1987), the White House responded and said they disagreed that volatility would increase.

Of course, when the 1987 Crash hit, the Brady Commission was forced to request my work. My greatest accomplishment was to prevent them from taking crazy sanctions against the market players when the real cause was the G5.

I was advising under contract the equivalent of about 50% of the value of the US National Debt at that time. The Japanese to ease trade restrictions, had been buying US debt and owned bout 33% of the US national debt at that time. I warned the Treasury that to lower the value of the dollar by 40% as the Plaza Accord said that was their goal, this would set off a crash and higher volatility because foreign investors will be forced to sell and exit the dollar. Yes, the value of exports would look good to foreign consumers, but US assets would also look like a sell. The capital flows went crazy causing the 1987 Crash. Advising around the world forced me to see everything from everyone’s perspective. It is that connection that is the key.

Capital will move to the most advantageous location globally because we are all connected. Everything has an international value. We compare things in terms of value based upon our own currency and local markets. Currency is a MENTAL language. If you are American, you may go to Rome and the prices you will convert in your head to dollars just as a European will do the same traveling to the States. Capital will always move to the best spot globally for capital will act in its own self-interest.

On May 28th, 1997, again I wrote to then Robert Rubin who was Secretary of the Treasury. Rubin was doing the same thing that the Plaza Accord did in 1985 and trying to talk the dollar down criticizing the Japanese again all for trade. Our models were warning of another crash and indeed it hit within just a few weeks of my letter and became known as the Asian Currency Crisis. The Asian Currency crisis was a period of financial crisis that gripped much of East Asia beginning in July 1997 and raised fears of a worldwide economic meltdown due to financial contagion. Indonesia, South Korea and Thailand were the countries most affected by the crisis.

It was Tim Geithner who responded in just 4 days.Our model has been well known behind the curtain for decades. When the Asian Currency Crisis hit, I was invited to China to meet with the central bank.

By monitoring the world, what emerges is the overall trend. Trump won not by some isolated fluke. We put that forecast out years in advance and it did not matter the flip-flopping polls or how much money Hillary spent. Our computer saw the trend forming decades in advance. The Catalonia voted in July 2016 to separate from Spain followed by BREXIT was showing you the global trend. Once you understand that NOTHING takes place in isolation, you can see the trend coming before it arrives.

Our forecast that gold would peak in 2011, the US share market would rally to new highs made back in 2011 that Barron’s thought was nuts, and that the euro would collapse, were all connected. If one unfolded, the other HAD to follow. Once you see that the world capital flows dictate the outcome of everything, then investing and trading becomes a lot easier. Gold could NOT have continued higher if the dollar was shifting and the capital flows were pointing back to equity. Plain and simple. Everything else is just an excuse.

So why do I try to teach people? Because I can say buy or sell. Most people will not do so unless they agree and/or have confidence in that conclusion. The way to invest securely demands you have confidence in you action. But there is something more at stake here. We are looking at the collapse in government structures – the fall of Socialism. This is simply unsustainable from an economic viewpoint. You can make $1 billion, but it will do no good if you live in a totalitarian state.

The move to electronic currency and to eliminate cash is all because government is collapsing. They are desperate for money to retain power. This is now an outright war – them against us. This is far more dangerous than people suspect.

Armstrong has made contradictory claims about gold during radio interviews.

His many blog messages marvelling at how good he is sound made up to me.
He repeatedly says he is not bothered about money yet sells his information on his private blog. Why not just release it for free?

Occasionally his posts are so badly written it seems he is drunk when writing them.

And here's a missing piece of the puzzle I've been trying to figure out for a while.  I've always thought the FOFOA idea of revaluing gold at $55,000 was kind of absurd since India and the Arabs have so much of it.  The west would just be transferring power to 3rd world nations.  It makes zero sense.  However, since nobody has big stockpiles of silver (or maybe they do as this article claims), they could utilize silver in a currency in some manner without making 3rd world nations rulers of the world.

The idea that JP Morgan has all this silver has been going on for a while.  Some people thought they bought it solely to dump on the market to control price when it starts to rise, while others think they really have zero.  It's also possible JP Morgan is acting as an agent for the US govt in acquiring all the silver for some type of usage in currency:

http://www.silverseek.com/article/another-interview-silver-guru-ted-butler-16218