Topic: Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 231. (Read 647183 times)

This is complete nonsense pretending Armstrong is some type of prophet.  Anyone that has ANY CLUE about the metals markets knows the ESF/FED FORCE the market into reversals at inflection points if they possibly can.  Since the paper market is only one entity, this "one bank", a single player that moves the price around, Armstrong's algo is just backtested data on what this cartel is doing.  But, there will come a point where this cartel is unable to do these actions anymore for whatever reason, and then gold will do the exact opposite of whatever Armstrong thinks since he was never forecasting an aggregate market in the first place.

I do not plan to be sitting on the sidelines like an idiot with zero metals when that happens.  They're called "black swan events" because old men who make believe they're hot shit like Armstrong get railroaded by them and lose everything while people who just dollar cost average always win.

Damn im getting bullish on gold.. retail sentiment seems shifted to bearish

He has been accurate on his calls, in Gold nearest futures, charts. If you can confidently make the call that if gold don't elect the reversal at 1362 on a monthly closing basis we will see a waterfall event on gold prices and it did happen as he said it, the following months and you come along. Ignoring his accurate forecasts in Socrates. You really don't get the point here. So sad to see. The ones that are easlily manipulated are people like you. Waste away your money, continue doing that. I have saved a lot of money, by saving I mean to keep me from listening to gold bugs.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/misleading-people-as-always/

Which the 1362 reversal we didn't elect
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/the-reversal-phenomenon/
I sold my gold, and I buy the lows.


The point is that gold can still go lower to 800 before going up in the 5000 range(at that point you they will not allow gold to be traded in exchange for money and assets), depending on the reversals. What would you rather do buying gold at 1900? or at 1000? What will you do if it goes below the 1000 line? I made the mistake at buying silver at 40, before I came to know about the system, Socrates.

And what would be a good trade, the claim that gold is manipulated and buying the highs or actually keeping a clear head and buying the lows, and selling the highs as A REAL TRADER would do. Who would have made most money? Time for gold is not now, it will come. But not now.


And events such as the date 2001.695 is not something pulled out of thin air. It is Pi dates that signify political turning points. Which does not apply to only what happened in America. It changed politics around the world and world capital flows. All goes according to plan. You see.

Correlation does not equal causation. Try correlating the number facebook users with gold prices.

Just google for the gold chart during comex hours.. its easy to see the mandate

IS 9/11 an actual big event, though?  Big for who?  There is no fixed frame of reference for the universe.  Some guys living in the Amazon jungle or an island somewhere likely don't know or care about it.  Are you going to claim that only political events occurring between people that live in skyscrapers matter and everything else on the planet is the equivalent of not existing at all? lol  Or, are you going to claim the people living in the rain forest had a 9/11 event too the same day? (not likely).

If you're going to claim all that's required for this prophecy to be fulfilled is just one of these ecosystems to experience some type of major disturbance on a local frame of reference, you could probably claim that prophecy is fulfilled every day of the year.  What about aliens living 100 light years away?  Are they supposed to experience a 9/11 event too even though the system of time you're referencing is a completely local phenomenon based around arbitrary variables like spinning around the sun...

None of this stuff makes any sense and requires the observer to believe they're a special snowflake where the universe was designed only for them.  As for the paper gold market, it is not an actual market.  A market requires an aggregate group of actors.  The paper gold market is just a fraud put out by the equivalent of a single actor (the one bank).  Armstrong claiming he can predict what this bank cartel will artificially attempt to set the price of gold at is like him claiming he can predict what the number is when I say "guess a number between one and a million", because that is what the cartel does.

The cartel has the problem of banging up against the cost of production, but they can still artificially go below it anyway and bankrupt some miners, usually resulting in a shortage of gold that just makes their fractional reserve manipulation break sooner than it otherwise would have and blow up the whole system, but since it's only one irrational actor where the inputs originate from, there is no way possible to predict what will happen.  Like I said, the equivalent of "guess the number in my head!".  

The street price of gold in India went over $2000 recently as well.  So why is the Crimex frame of reference for gold price more valid than Indian street price?  It's not.  The only reason Armstrong pretends it is is because he's a fraud shilling for Jewish central bankers.

While this scumbag shill Armstrong claims gold is not manipulated, here it is right in broad daylight admitting they randomly manipulate price wherever they want:  

http://gata.org/node/17081

And a chart with around 91% correlation randomly detours completely off course as they try to manipulate it to implement ZIRP/NIRP giving you gold prices that are currently something like 45% off their already manipulated low prices.  Once again proving anything Armstrong says about gold is pure fiction since his frame of reference is the cartel.

We can't prevent humans from preferring a system which misinforms the economy to create great liquidity and economic expansion at the cost of a bust later. This is natural. It is also natural when viewed from Theory of the Universe perspective, because friction necessitates waves and without friction the speed-of-light would not be quantized (i.e. would be unbounded) and thus the past and future would collapse (as in Godel's universe). A straight line or uniformity is a static universe where life does not exist. Armstrong wrote about this again recently:


TPTB and the fucktard, leftist, Marxist masses don't want any of us to be able to compete with them by transferring our wealth into assets which can retain value during the forced collapse:


After I get some sleep when I am back home, I will explain what I think we need in terms of crypto-currency and blockchains in order for them to play this role that gold used to have but no longer can fulfill.

Someone questioned my honesty in a PM and I replied as follows:

Closed-minded fools should not read this:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/models/the-end-of-time/

Btw, cycles could exist (on macro level) and entropy could still continue to increase (in the diversity of individual actors), thus being entirely consistent with a non-deterministic universe. The simple explanation is the solar system, earth, and human nature don't change (other than the repeating cyclical variations, such as the orbits, sunspot cycles, etc).


Because (according to him) his data set is huge. And he expended years fiddling with A.I. to extract the multi-dimensional correlations in the extensive database (which BTW would cost more than $1 billion to assemble now).

Apparently some of you have messaged Armstrong, but he is hard-headed and still doesn't understand that technically it is implausible ban all crypto-currencies regardless if the government wants to:


Can someone please message him and explain to him how dull minded he is on this issue. Explain what I wrote as quoted above about needing to ban every server on the planet. How the hell are governments going to coordinate and then enforce that?

Oh course governments can probably regulate the mining farms in China (and they could attack and hardfork with their superior hashrate), but that is why we will have altcoins, in particular the one I am developing which doesn't depend on either proof-of-work nor proof-of-stake.

Remind Martin, it is Shelby Moore who is refuting him. He should remember me from email. I am tired of emailing him. He should hear from more of you, instead always myself emailing him.

I agree, it is quite strange how nature acts on us.

Universal numbers have been entwined into mythology and megalithic structures long before modern religion.

'The Great Year' is the length of time for the constellations to complete one rotation.  (also known as the Platonic year). Somehow ancient people figured this precession out.

The number is 25,940 years.

Derivatives of this number are found throughout the universe.

1 degree is 72 years (ie the constellations cross the night sky 1 degree every 72 years, meaning it would take many generations to observe one cycle.)

This cycle is replicated in smaller doses many many times - cycles within cycles.

The body of work and the tangents that stem from this are too many to describe. Suffice to say that it informs my take on religion; all stem from the memory of a near extinction and the base narrative is designed to tell us the how's and why's to repopulate and survive. This is common to ALL religions (flood myth, cataclysms, repopulate, treat each other). Later add ons and lies are the works of people looking for power and not for the crucial survival of the species.

I added some replies to CoinCube's 3 threads he linked to above.

Fractional reserve banking was natural when gold was what the public CONFIDENCE wanted as money in the early 1800s, because society demands liquidity and so to get liquidity, the banks were forced to issue paper receipts for the gold.

But I want to note a key distinction in that these receipts afaik were not fungible dollars. The USA Notes (which were not created from debt) and the US gold and silver coinage were distinct from the bank notes. Prior to that:


Laterus' competition idea is impossible because the notes could not be fungible without causing the Tragedy of the Commons which is the current federalized system.

Nevertheless society demands liquidity because humans are focused in the near-term and rapid economic expansion is always politically favored. And then the collapse is blamed on the rich and society turns to Marxism.

This is natural because humans have a limited life span and are insatiable.

It would be a great opportunity to back up the truck and fill it up with BTC at lower prices, because this would be the US government shooting themselves in the foot.

The worst thing a government can do is ban something only to have the population give them the middle finger and it be proven that the government is impotent. From there, Bitcoin would skyrocket in price as it being shown how powerless the government is to ban it.

You are too fearful because you are a short-term speculator. Long-term crypto-currency investors understand that this is a paradigm shift for the world and they understand they are going to be very wealthy over the coming decade.

Weak hands will be thrown off and end up not being wealthy.

Incorrect. I advised that BTC would be very volatile. I also concurred with a maximum decline to $700, but a more likely decline back to the prior breakout at $788 (which is exactly what happened).

Go read my posts and you will find it.

Please don't lie again about me.

Edit: you will also find where I concurred with $1100 - $1200 being the price to take profits. I have been predicting this perfectly. You just aren't reading all my posts intently.

You are over-interpreting the significance of this guy.  There are MANY other people who have done similar cyclical research as this person.  It's just back testing data to try and create an algo to derive the future - nothing more, nothing less.  Sometimes their cyclical data is accurate, sometimes it's not.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4090434/Is-civilisation-heading-COLLAPSE-Mathematical-historian-predicts-political-turmoil-peak-2020s.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theory

We do not live in a deterministic universe.  Most of this stuff just revolves around human behavior; as in, if a generation experiences socialism and it turns out bad, they do not repeat it until several generations later when everyone forgets how bad it was.  Same thing with war, etc.  This does not mean those events are guaranteed to repeat or not, it just means the probability increases over time.

Guys did you know the Martins Model, ECM wave 309 year wave, one of the turning point was in 2001.695? That is 911? Holy shit. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/models/historical-turning-points-economic-confidence-model-6000bc-2072ad/
These turning points were already set, before the major events that happens on these ECM dates. Is this just a coincendence? What is going on? Search 2001.695 in the page. And 0.695 x 365 days = 253,675 days into the year of 2001 that is september month and 11 days into it.

Curse of the MSM haha

It may indeed be impossible to ban bitcoin in the long term, but in the short to medium term? It would IMHO be very messy should a major economic player attempt such a thing.

Imagine the US gov. shutting down coinbase/bitstamp/etc, even declaring jail time for those that are caught using bitcoin after the ban.  Bitcoin investors would panic and most bitcoin holders would make a mad dash for the exit, cratering the price.  It would almost certainly end up recovering eventually (as you said it would require a NWO to ban completely), but who knows how long that might take; in the meantime btc wouldn't look so good as store of value even to those not directly affected.  I feel a ban from a major nation such as the US or China would not be a negligible event, and I would imagine Armstrong is thinking along those lines.