Topic: Master-P SCAMMER. I lost complete faith in this forum now. - page 57. (Read 80747 times)

If my memory servers me correctly, someone here on the forum wrote a script to compare typing patterns a few months back.   They may be able to shed some further light on the "my account was sold" theory.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Comment: Signed by Bitcoin Armory v0.93.2

Hey bitcointalk, this is the "original" or previous owner of master-P account on these forums.

I had sold the account to an anonymous offer in August 2015. Along with my forum account, the keybase account "masterp" was also sold as the buyer wanted to continue to assume my identity and provide escrow.

The private keys to the wallets I used for escrow were also included in the sale so the new owner could continue providing escrow as I already had some transactions/campaigns taking place.

I am signing this message from an address I used to stake back in March, before I sold the account and was not included in the sale since the buyer would have no real use for it.

The address is 16Ag7a28TfKwUQiUKcQuvTxATJM5khmX5p

Posted here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10821951

I don't think I can really do much to help, but just wanted to post this here since someone on my steam friend list informed me of this situation. I don't necessarily partake on these forums anymore, and don't intend to continue.

I apologize for selling my account, in hindsight I see how selfish of an act it was. But I was at an all time low and I didn't exactly have much time to keep participating and help escrow for these forums anymore. The amount of money I was offered for my "bitcointalk identity" was enough to help get me through a couple of really rough months.

Dec. 28, 2015
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----


HPdvfF++IQVxwWLiK2f4D/T8X5WieQb5YMqC2ekjwo2oAHdIybxKxy3/lJ99OzUA
JWfcr97+uNH2yGGz4rSNpZs=
=F3L/
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

So this isn't real: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13378692

I believe that the claim that the master-p account was sold has been more or less disproven, so I don't think he can use that as an excuse.

Right now the funds have not moved and the master-p account has really not made any kind of statement, so technically at this point he has not yet scammed (although this will likely, IMO, change in the future). Once master-p has "officially" scammed/stolen money (I am not sure what exactly would cause this to trigger) then he can be charged with a crime.

His crime would most likely be something along the lines of obtaining money by false pretenses, and I do not think the law would see what master-p appears to be doing as him defaulting on debt obligations.

The reason why it is so unlikely that most newbie related scams are not going to be prosecuted is due to the fact that so little evidence is left behind on the newbie related scams, while these larger scams are going to have more evidence of both the crime, and of the identity of the person who committed the crime. Plus the fact that the amounts are much larger in this case verses most newbie scams, as law enforcement is likely not interested in devoting large amounts of resources investigating a $5 petty theft.

Most people don't know this, but any time you engage in any exchange of value, you are entering into a contract regardless of paperwork being signed. Of course the paperwork helps establish the parameters of the agreement making litigation much simpler, but that doesn't mean another form of agreement can't be demonstrated to have occurred in a court of law (ie verbal, informal, or otherwise).

I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

Meh, i dont think it was sold mate. Look at the posts made, no changes in the context what so ever. New owner can't be that good in impersonating now can he?  

This cant be considered not scamming yet. If he keep on being silent and doesnt move the coins then does this means he is not guilty? He should atleast make a reply about what is going on that he doesnt yet come to solve this problem. This could turn into another maidak saga

when maidak scammed did we get any replay from him?

I believe that the claim that the master-p account was sold has been more or less disproven, so I don't think he can use that as an excuse.

Right now the funds have not moved and the master-p account has really not made any kind of statement, so technically at this point he has not yet scammed (although this will likely, IMO, change in the future). Once master-p has "officially" scammed/stolen money (I am not sure what exactly would cause this to trigger) then he can be charged with a crime.

His crime would most likely be something along the lines of obtaining money by false pretenses, and I do not think the law would see what master-p appears to be doing as him defaulting on debt obligations.

The reason why it is so unlikely that most newbie related scams are not going to be prosecuted is due to the fact that so little evidence is left behind on the newbie related scams, while these larger scams are going to have more evidence of both the crime, and of the identity of the person who committed the crime. Plus the fact that the amounts are much larger in this case verses most newbie scams, as law enforcement is likely not interested in devoting large amounts of resources investigating a $5 petty theft.

I would personally believe that master-p is not a scammer, and if he is saying that he needs 12 hours to release escrow because he is on a plane, then I would suggest that you wait half a day for your money, especially if it is because the other person is no longer responding (these situations take longer to release anyway because the escrow wants to be sure that the other person has not sent you the fiat).

I know that he was previously needing to download the blockchain so that may also contribute to delays in releasing escrows.

I have sent master-P a PM offering my assistance in creating transactions for him to sign/broadcast (and otherwise) so he can deal with his escrows in an orderly fashion.

With the above being said, it would probably be best to avoid using master-p as escrow until he can get his existing escrows resolved. 

This was shocking as I've used master-P multiple times as escrow. Its hard now to trust a stranger on the internet.  

Since the account was bought, account selling discussion will be live again.

I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

This may have already been answered somewhere, but what country is Master-P in?  Is he in the US? 

---snip---

You mean, hire a detective to chase after $2k? Never tried that myself, are they really that cheap?
Or do you mean like hire one of those detectives in China or India, where the wages are low, so they could track down Master-P in their own neck of the wood?

How about this: dress up in your fedora, order (bonus: on DNM) one of those detective kits with a plastic spy glass, a plastic gun, and a plastic "DETECTIVE" badge, and do the job yourself? I mean, about as real as everything else here, why break stylistic consistency? I'm sure Master-P the trusted escrow wouldn't mind/care/know the difference.

For what it's worth, my account won't ever be sold for any amount of money.

You are wrong, and I will be the one to prove it.

Quoted for future reference (I hope not), can you PGP sign it? Id sign something similar, just because I applaud the notion.

That's exactly how i think too. If someone can do such a thing and sleep well with it, i don't get it. You have to know what will happen and you betray a lot of people then.

I completely agree. I would never sell my account either and mine is much less trusted than yours. But selling a PGP private key is beyond me. Of course master-P is fully responsible for this, regardless of the account sale being real or not.