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Anybody interested in helping our chinese friends buy MSC and/or get involved in other ways?

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Hi David, J.R, Ron, Sam and Lee:

The MasterCoin has been very hot topic recently in China.

Please allow me introduce Mr. really Lee to you guys.

Really has translated the Mastercoin's white paper into Chinese version, he is running a Mastercoin community via QQ group with 65 members now. (Chines skype)

He told me that there are some Chinese are willing to purchase the Mastercoins, but they have no idea how to buy from second market, and they do not know
how to involve in the project development.....

IMHO: That will be great if you guys invite some Chinese into your group/foundation, help promote and protect Mastercoin project in China.

Anything I could be in assistance, please let me.

Any comments?

Cheers,

Bo

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Hi Lee!

I've posted a copy of this email in our project thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3429668

We're happy to support our Chinese friends getting involved with MasterCoin, although we don't have any websites or services in Chinese yet. That might be a good starting point for someone who wants to get involved, especially if they speak enough English to work with our developers making English sites. Note that someone who creates such a site will probably be eligible for some payment from our coding contest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292628.240). The potential Chinese buyers may want to pool their money and choose an English-speaking representative to make the purchase on their behalf on the ad-hoc exchange MaxMint is running (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mastercoin-buyerseller-thread-287145), then distribute the coins purchased to the people who contributed. Otherwise, they can use the distributed exchange when that is ready.

Thanks!

-J.R.

Paid translation might be a good use of some of the contest funds. If the spec / whitepaper can be translated into as many languages as possible and if more importantly the development documentation and concepts can be translated then it will probably catch fire.

legendary
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Rational Exuberance
Anybody interested in helping our chinese friends buy MSC and/or get involved in other ways?

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Hi David, J.R, Ron, Sam and Lee:

The MasterCoin has been very hot topic recently in China.

Please allow me introduce Mr. really Lee to you guys.

Really has translated the Mastercoin's white paper into Chinese version, he is running a Mastercoin community via QQ group with 65 members now. (Chines skype)

He told me that there are some Chinese are willing to purchase the Mastercoins, but they have no idea how to buy from second market, and they do not know
how to involve in the project development.....

IMHO: That will be great if you guys invite some Chinese into your group/foundation, help promote and protect Mastercoin project in China.

Anything I could be in assistance, please let me.

Any comments?

Cheers,

Bo

My response:

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Hi Lee!

I've posted a copy of this email in our project thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3429668

We're happy to support our Chinese friends getting involved with MasterCoin, although we don't have any websites or services in Chinese yet. That might be a good starting point for someone who wants to get involved, especially if they speak enough English to work with our developers making English sites. Note that someone who creates such a site will probably be eligible for some payment from our coding contest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292628.240). The potential Chinese buyers may want to pool their money and choose an English-speaking representative to make the purchase on their behalf on the ad-hoc exchange MaxMint is running (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mastercoin-buyerseller-thread-287145), then distribute the coins purchased to the people who contributed. Otherwise, they can use the distributed exchange when that is ready.

Thanks!

-J.R.
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Hi all,

I agree that a PR firm that has measurable results (S.M.A.R.T) will be important in the near future.

However, the most important steps in the next few months are delivering features and value-added functionality to MSC so that word-of-mouth spreads within the Bitcoin community. I would first leverage the Project's success to market itself and then spend some money on PR.



There will never be more MasterCoins, unless the MasterCoin protocol gets hard-forked. Potentially anybody could do such a hard fork, and if it happened, people would have to decide if they wanted to stay or to join the new fork.

So far the price of BTC has risen faster than we can spend it, so we actually have a lot more money now than when we started, even though we've spent quite a bit. Of course, that could always change if BTC crashes, as it has been known to do. Because of that possibility, I'm a tightwad on a lot of things. Just ask the board - we're currently discussing whether we should hire a very prestigious PR firm who is offering us a discount and offering to take payment in BTC/MSC because they are hugely into what we are doing. However, it's still a LOT of money, and I'm looking at cheaper alternatives before we commit.

I agree. If it's the first decentralized exchange I don't think PR will be a problem at all. Get in contact with the issuers and business owners. Have some useful goods and services using the Mastercoin protocol and then run the PR campaign to put it into the media.

It will be important to encourage business owners and issuers to keep using Mastercoins but the truth of the matter is, for any business it will make all the sense in the world based on functionality. For the users I think where else are they supposed to go for a decentralized exchange? There is no alternative so once you have that you'll automatically have the Bitcoin community.

Even if Colored Coin and Bitshares arrive soon or at the same time the demand for a decentralized exchange is so great that there are thousands of people waiting just for that. The more features you have the greater the demand will be and I do believe the potential market cap is big enough for Colored Coin, Bitshares and Mastercoin to all be successful.

Long term PR will be a major issue though. The other issue will be getting fiat currency into the Mastercoin eco-system. Mastercoin is a great idea but if its hard to get fiat into the system it's never going to take off as much as it could. I have ideas on how giftcards can be used to turn fiat into Mastercoins using a giftcard/scratch card approach to selling Mastercoins. I think scratch cards which contain Mastercoins should be sold in liquor stores, coffee shops and at college campuses across the globe.

My idea for marketing Mastercoin to the general public once the functionality exists
I would design the scratch cards so everyone wins something, but the amount of Mastercoins you win is random. Some people would win the jackpot and some would win just enough to want to keep buying Mastercoin scratch tickets.

So just as the giveaway thread gives away Mastercoins at 0.1-0.9, in the future a scratch ticket approach will be necessary. The scratch tickets will be sold so people will actually be buying the Mastercoins but once in a while there will be a jackpot in there so that some people win a lot more than others.

So for $1 to $5 to $20 anyone will be able to buy a scratch ticket. They'll scratch it off to see how many Mastercoins they've won underneath. If they won more than they paid for they hit the jackpot but the majority of people will just win any amount and be happy with that. The total amount sold is the same but the distribution is randomized so that it's got a gambling element to it.

Now you'll have the general public with scratch tickets with Mastercoins which they'll be able to use.
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Hi all,

I agree that a PR firm that has measurable results (S.M.A.R.T) will be important in the near future.

However, the most important steps in the next few months are delivering features and value-added functionality to MSC so that word-of-mouth spreads within the Bitcoin community. I would first leverage the Project's success to market itself and then spend some money on PR.



There will never be more MasterCoins, unless the MasterCoin protocol gets hard-forked. Potentially anybody could do such a hard fork, and if it happened, people would have to decide if they wanted to stay or to join the new fork.

So far the price of BTC has risen faster than we can spend it, so we actually have a lot more money now than when we started, even though we've spent quite a bit. Of course, that could always change if BTC crashes, as it has been known to do. Because of that possibility, I'm a tightwad on a lot of things. Just ask the board - we're currently discussing whether we should hire a very prestigious PR firm who is offering us a discount and offering to take payment in BTC/MSC because they are hugely into what we are doing. However, it's still a LOT of money, and I'm looking at cheaper alternatives before we commit.
legendary
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No, there will never be more mastercoins. You can't change that, even by forking. You can create other currencies by forking, but not mastercoins.

That's just like, your opinion, man.
legendary
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Rational Exuberance
No, there will never be more mastercoins. You can't change that, even by forking. You can create other currencies by forking, but not mastercoins.

Well, I guess I'm imagining a scenario where the vast majority of people switch to a fork and continue calling it "MasterCoin" and recognize the old ones. If only one holdout didn't switch to the new fork, they'd have a tough time enforcing that semantic differentiation Smiley

My plan, as you well know, has always been to never have any more MSC, but if everybody else in the world decides differently, I can't really stop them.
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Ron Gross
No, there will never be more mastercoins. You can't change that, even by forking. You can create other currencies by forking, but not mastercoins.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1031
Rational Exuberance
There will never be more MasterCoins, unless the MasterCoin protocol gets hard-forked. Potentially anybody could do such a hard fork, and if it happened, people would have to decide if they wanted to stay or to join the new fork.

So far the price of BTC has risen faster than we can spend it, so we actually have a lot more money now than when we started, even though we've spent quite a bit. Of course, that could always change if BTC crashes, as it has been known to do. Because of that possibility, I'm a tightwad on a lot of things. Just ask the board - we're currently discussing whether we should hire a very prestigious PR firm who is offering us a discount and offering to take payment in BTC/MSC because they are hugely into what we are doing. However, it's still a LOT of money, and I'm looking at cheaper alternatives before we commit.
hero member
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How many mastercoins were distributed for every Bitcoin sent to the Exodus address?

Can't seem to find the original price anywhere in the OP..

100:1, 100 Mastercoins for every Bitcoin.
Did anybody yet contact ASICMINER's friedcat and talk about Mastercoin's smart property feature?

It's a bit soon, wait until smart property actually works before contacting Friedcat.
how far are we from finishing the distributed exchg

Progress is being made although the last few weeks we have been working on improving the message encoding itself.

I've broadcasted the first ever Mastercoin BTC/MSC exchange message on the 25th of October. You can see it here on Mastercoin-explorer. For convenience I also made an order book page which shows all broadcasted orders. There is no way to accept these orders for now or for any non-technical to create offers but I expect there might be in the next week or so.

Excellent work! This is actually happening faster than anyone expected.
hero member
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how far are we from finishing the distributed exchg

Progress is being made although the last few weeks we have been working on improving the message encoding itself.

I've broadcasted the first ever Mastercoin BTC/MSC exchange message on the 25th of October. You can see it here on Mastercoin-explorer. For convenience I also made an order book page which shows all broadcasted orders. There is no way to accept these orders for now or for any non-technical to create offers but I expect there might be in the next week or so.
hero member
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Did anybody yet contact ASICMINER's friedcat and talk about Mastercoin's smart property feature?
hero member
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So most Mastercoin investors are up over 10x fold their investment already?
But please stand by - this will soon be 100X.  MSC:BTC will be 1:1 soon.  Just a bit more functionality in the MSC system and it will start to catch on.
legendary
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How many mastercoins were distributed for every Bitcoin sent to the Exodus address?

Can't seem to find the original price anywhere in the OP..

100 msc per btc, plus 10% extra per week before the deadline.

So most Mastercoin investors are up over 10x fold their investment already?
Pretty much yes.
legendary
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
how far are we from finishing the distributed exchg
hero member
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How many mastercoins were distributed for every Bitcoin sent to the Exodus address?

Can't seem to find the original price anywhere in the OP..

100 msc per btc, plus 10% extra per week before the deadline.

So most Mastercoin investors are up over 10x fold their investment already?
legendary
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100 satoshis -> ISO code
How many mastercoins were distributed for every Bitcoin sent to the Exodus address?

Can't seem to find the original price anywhere in the OP..

100 msc per btc, plus 10% extra per week before the deadline.
hero member
Activity: 504
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How many mastercoins were distributed for every Bitcoin sent to the Exodus address?

Can't seem to find the original price anywhere in the OP..
legendary
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Gresham's Lawyer
Exactly 619478.59338440 MSC were created and no more will ever be created.
When asked about it, I think Willet replied: "...well, I don't want to say 'never'"

What if you had the choice: the projects dies for lack of development resources - or - 10% dilution for all participants to reach a spectacular success?  

I'd take choice #2.

Never say never.  Or 'ever'.  Smiley  Grin

More Mastercoins doesn't dilute anything if the project is a success. Development resources would come from Bitcoin once the decentralized exchange is built. I don't see how it will be an issue at all.

Also you'll have many commercial interests and venture capitalists who will pour millions into it if it even looks like its a success.

With such ample and excellent development resources, one might first question other aspects of the project.
Ola
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Here is a new facebook group, join discuss and share....:  Mastercoin: https://www.facebook.com/groups/213147185526904/
hero member
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Exactly 619478.59338440 MSC were created and no more will ever be created.
When asked about it, I think Willet replied: "...well, I don't want to say 'never'"

What if you had the choice: the projects dies for lack of development resources - or - 10% dilution for all participants to reach a spectacular success?  

I'd take choice #2.

Never say never.  Or 'ever'.  Smiley  Grin

More Mastercoins doesn't dilute anything if the project is a success. Development resources would come from Bitcoin once the decentralized exchange is built. I don't see how it will be an issue at all.

Also you'll have many commercial interests and venture capitalists who will pour millions into it if it even looks like its a success.
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