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A bear market makes profit more difficult, the opportunity to obtain a loan is more difficult, and the possibility of recovering money is slower and more dangerous. Therefore, many people try to look for investment opportunities in other areas when the market is down until things improve again.
This does not mean that it is not possible to make a profit in a bear market, but why fatigue and risk in a bear market and it is possible to achieve a faster and more secure profit.

I know the difficulties in trading during the bear market as many indices will lead to losses, but then there are some other extremely good in trading and can make profits in whatever market conditions. But at a time like this, a newbie trader will have to restrain from passive trading as the risk of losing is high, especially with highly volatile assets.

It will take quite a long time process for a person to do passive trading even during the bearish season. It will take a long process to learn to deal with the market as well as do technical analysis as a beginner but having the right mindset and eagerness to learn strategic trading will be a good start. Trading during this season isn't for everyone but it will be good for those who are willing to learn continuously.

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Quote from: hugeblack on August 13, 2022, 02:26:58 PM

A bear market makes profit more difficult, the opportunity to obtain a loan is more difficult, and the possibility of recovering money is slower and more dangerous. Therefore, many people try to look for investment opportunities in other areas when the market is down until things improve again.
This does not mean that it is not possible to make a profit in a bear market, but why fatigue and risk in a bear market and it is possible to achieve a faster and more secure profit.

I know the difficulties in trading during the bear market as many indices will lead to losses, but then there are some other extremely good in trading and can make profits in whatever market conditions. But at a time like this, a newbie trader will have to restrain from passive trading as the risk of losing is high, especially with highly volatile assets.

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A bear market makes profit more difficult, the opportunity to obtain a loan is more difficult, and the possibility of recovering money is slower and more dangerous. Therefore, many people try to look for investment opportunities in other areas when the market is down until things improve again.
This does not mean that it is not possible to make a profit in a bear market, but why fatigue and risk in a bear market and it is possible to achieve a faster and more secure profit.

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The only thing that can help you profit from trading is by learning more from others so that you can improve your analytical skill and could analyze well to find the right moment to trade. Almost all traders experience the experience of losses, but that does not mean we can't get profits because we can get profits by having sufficient ability to analyze market movements. In this bear market, it is difficult to make profits, especially stable profits, because the direction of market movement is unpredictable and we can only analyze where it will move.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

More experience leads you to that way about mastering the market behavior and acts upon it. I'm not surprised to hear many complaints about their losses because not all traders are experts, many people jump to trading without any idea what this is all about, and for sure, they landed in the wrong place. And besides, no matter how good we are, even though we all use all the strategies we have, sometimes losses can be possible, and that was the real scenario in trading.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

many will always complain of losses during a bear market

There are winners and losers at the same time in the market. So in bear market, most of people are in pain and loses but there are a few people who see opportunities in bear market and they take it, wait for rally or next bull run to have profit.

You don't have to master or beat the market. What you should do is learning fundamentals of what you intend to invest in, then master your psychology. If you choose a good asset and made due diligent research to understand it well and can master your psychology, you will win.

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Trading is not easy as it involves significant risk, and it takes a long time to get good performance and feel.
To become a professional trader, you must have good readiness, a good knowledge of TA and fundamentals, and discipline.
In reality, many people are unsuitable and fail to become a trader.
But Trading is not the only way to earn money in crypto.
We can become an investor, Buy and HODL, Staking, Mining, or become a Freelancer.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

Most of the traders especially those newbies are only trading spot markets, this is what I observed especially those who are new in trading or just learning, they must also try to do futures trading even with low leverage.
They complain that they can't earn profits while bear market, for sure they don't know how futures trading works.

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Each one of us has its own strategies on how to make a profit in the market, it always varies on our decision on which position is most profitable.
It could be there's a pattern in the market movement but that gives a guarantee that you will guess it right, some of our predictions lead to a failed outcome in trading.

So choose your best trading strategies, change them if it will not work, and have consistent losses.
Mastering sometimes helps and doesn't rely upon it, you should always have an exit point to avoid further losses and stop-loss should be the best strategy after all.

That's why I prefer investing in Bitcoin compared to making a profit on trading, buying in a DCA way is pretty good as of now IMO.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 12, 2022, 03:01:30 PM

I read most replies here and they all suggested having a strategy in trading to maximize the market, and a lot of others also mentioned regular trading to build confidence and skills. I know that the market conditions also contribute a quarter to the success of a trade even though the trade outcome may not be tied to the price of the asset but on a general note, the market conditions have a higher chance of controlling the outcome of the trade.

There’s always a trend in this market, without a strategy any market condition will be useless with you and you might not be able to buy and sell since you failed to create a strategy. You don’t have to master everything, a few important skills can work as long as you have the discipline and stays committed with your strategy, it can be more profitable for you.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

Being a daytrader or scalper then these type of traders doesnt really care on what the trend or market condition it would be because they are heavily depending on the movement doesnt matter if its going

up or down since they are positioning themselves on where they do saw the price is low and then sell when there's some increase at least even though not that much but it would be repeated up for
how many times which means that it would be significant if its accumulated.

Profitability will really be depending or varying on their decision and this isnt something simple that anyone could bare out.

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Mastering the market movement will give you insights about the price movements. Knowing the price movements shows that you have mastered the market movements. Boths need each other to get good results. For you to master the market movements you need to know your technical and fundamentals very well. When you check the price, it is the first thing that is affected when there is strong fundamentals.
To get the actual market movements you will pay even attention to volume of trade, IRS etc. The market demands that you keep learning new things because the market is ever changing.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

First, you must understand the risks of trading this volatile asset. Second if you are really interested in trading it then you have to be prepared to take the risk. I just think we should avoid trading greed because we basically never really know what will happen to the next price.

Buying on the dip is a good strategy if we really believe in the potential profit we can make in the long run. But I don't think this method will be as good as expected if it is applied to random altcoin that we never know and know about their use cases, so I only agree if this is practiced on bitcoin or some of the top altcoin.

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I read most replies here and they all suggested having a strategy in trading to maximize the market, and a lot of others also mentioned regular trading to build confidence and skills. I know that the market conditions also contribute a quarter to the success of a trade even though the trade outcome may not be tied to the price of the asset but on a general note, the market conditions have a higher chance of controlling the outcome of the trade.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

Everyone has their own strategy either its day trade or positioned trader. Some complained cause they always rushing to buy when the market is good and hyped and when some whales pull off some funds they panic sell and tell us they loss which eventually lead to a greater picture of losses. Honestly if you are down with a major project just find a way to dca or earn out of it like staking or holding it off. Until you recovered the loss value and sold it off at a nice profit again. Dont evet succumb to your fear.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

Even someone who is an expert in reading market movements will not think he is the best. Natural markets run and every second can change. This is because the situation of individuals, companies, and institutions, which for example make purchases or sales without providing information, is the only factor where the market is truly real.

The alternative that may be more often used as a reference is news from valid sources that can be accounted for. Then match it with market movements and then the method of reading is with technical analysis (as a scientific measuring tool in minimizing the inaccuracy of speculation).

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

It is not that simple, market conditions do have an effect on your ability to produce profitable trades, any trading system needs a trend to make profits, so even if you do not care about going long or short you need big enough movements so after you buy the market moves in your desired direction and then you can sell for a profit, this means there are some market conditions in which it is almost impossible to produce profits even for the best traders.

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It's important to stop trading when you see market being manipulated by the news. When Bitcoin is driven down by the FED and its meetings you know the steering wheel is out of the hands of the market and in the hands of the manipulators. Trying to trade in this environment is very risky and almost impossible because what you're doing is gambling trying to predict if they will hike rates or not and if this will crash the price or not. Wait until the market starts being driven by the market, like when we get to the next having.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

Just continue and continue and continue to do traders even if it's losing is the most result. We can't be used on something if we don't do it regularly.

Continuous trading will put a trader in different scenarios and that will be the challenge here.

Mastering the market shouldn't be the term but be used on seeing how the market behaves. Since crypto is volatile, we need to build experience on how to deal with these. Once we progress, we can form a strategy on our own depending on the market situation.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 11, 2022, 05:54:03 PM

As a day trader or a passive trader, most are confused about how to make the best out of the market, and many will always complain of losses during a bear market, meanwhile with the right mastery one can make massive profits in the bear market and this goes further to clarify the fact that market conditions do not have much to.do with your profit maximizing but proper market mastering is what gives profits in whatever market.

If we say mastery, you're likely have put all of the things that you need for you to have almost zero losses in trading.

It's true that it's not all about the price because any price the market shows, you're adapting it and you can make profit from within. That's why many traders are learning from experiences.

And at the same time, they're having the best learning experiences because they're applying what they've learned.

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