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January 16, 2025, 04:55:28 PM
#58
The same way gamblers lose money sometimes that's same way sport betting companies lose money sometimes, and same way gamblers win sometimes that's same way sport betting companies win sometimes.
If Bookies sponsored a league, not just teams, it is likely that there would be small cases of match fixing here and there to favour them.

In today's world of sports, there is a lot of money there and it goes around favouring the bookies. It is difficult to spot but it does happen especially if you have been a fan of a particular sport way before bookies became popular and way before technology through artificial intelligence was introduced into the game.

People may not know but it is possible that they have waged on at least one fixed match in the season where they thought well, this is just a regular game but didn't know it wasn't. Their loss was a gain to the sports betting companies.

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January 16, 2025, 04:45:06 PM
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Yes match-fixing has been going on for a long time and even now it still exists in the unpopular minor leagues, this is still a possibility, it's just not highlighted by the media to be reported, so it will be vulnerable if betting on the minor leagues, the bookies can play a role there.

If you don't want to be cheated then bet on big league matches so the bookies won't dare to do this.
Match-Fixing is indeed the best place for bookies to do all the manipulation and manage the match without being suspected because it is very supportive to commit cheating actions that cannot be done in big matches in general.

Minor leagues with clubs and players who have low salaries will be very vulnerable to manipulation,
because players will be easy to bribe with money so that they follow the instructions given by the bookies so that the score is as desired.

Match-fixing is an area controlled by bookies, and they can benefit a lot, because minor leagues also do not get clear regulations and minimal supervision, there is no transparency because the lack of media coverage and public supervision in small leagues creates space for corrupt practices, including match-fixing, so that it goes on without much attention.

For gamblers who like sports matches, it is better to avoid small leagues like this which are prone to being a place of Match-Fixing, it will only benefit the bookie, but if you want to test your luck, pay attention to which team will usually be chosen by the bookmaker.
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January 16, 2025, 04:43:53 PM
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Well it happens. I've seen a few scandals before occur due to match-fixing, but I don't think it's because they want to fuck up gamblers, just politics placed in gambling lol. And if you really want to avoid match-fixing, you can usually do so by betting on tournaments/sports leagues big enough to avoid those kinds of things. Match fixing is only really a thing anyway when it's lower lower-end-ish type of tourneys. Major leagues "usually" wouldn't have them and on the occasions that they did, they're usually caught.

And only people "in the know" of a match fix would ever support it. It's free money for them lol.
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January 16, 2025, 03:29:51 PM
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The discussion of match-fixing has been discussed for a long time on this forum.

Yes match-fixing has been going on for a long time and even now it still exists in the unpopular minor leagues, this is still a possibility, it's just not highlighted by the media to be reported, so it will be vulnerable if betting on the minor leagues, the bookies can play a role there.

If you don't want to be cheated then bet on big league matches so the bookies won't dare to do this.
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January 16, 2025, 03:25:20 PM
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I believe I’ve had a testimony of match fixture back then when I was in the University. Although it’s still possible that was just mere luck. My roommates came in with a game they claimed to be a fixed correct score they bought from an anonymous source online, they claimed the source was reliable and they were able to convince me into joining them to play the game, I can’t remember the name of the clubs exactly but the game actually played according to how it was predicted, it could’ve been possible that it was indeed a correct score or just another online punter claiming to have access to an actual fixed game.

Most of those online predictors who claim that their predictions are fixed games are usually not real - they just try to predict on their own and then sell it off as fixed matches so that they’ll make more profit from it.

You won’t see people that are truly involved in fixed matches sharing it online because if they do and people gets to know investigations will be done and if traces of fixed matches are found or players are being paid to do things just so some people can win their bets that player will be punished so they try to do it as discreetly as they can possibly be.
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January 16, 2025, 03:16:33 PM
#53
Match fixing will high unlikely happen in important match.

I still believe there's a chance match fixing happen in Premier League, La Liga, Serie A etc because the league is long, 38 weeks, cheating in few match would be fine.

But, if it's an Europa League and Champions League during elimination round, there's no team will joking, if they lose, they lose. They will try their best to win the match, hence we always see a fierce match during elimination round.
You are absolutely right, I think I'm pretty sure that match fixing do happen in the premier league. Because sometimes they always make it obvious to the gamblers, any match that was fixt in the premier league despite any club that is there is most surely played as they program it. That's why you see that whenever we put a big team to win, in our betting slip why they have already fixt as draw, there's no how that it'll not end as they plan it. Though at last we keep on complaining without noing that they have already fixt the game. Of course champions league matches are always though, do to the fact that the teams are from different leagues,They always play to win.
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January 16, 2025, 03:08:03 PM
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Games of course can be fixed but betting companies than should have great contact inside of club which is very hard to get. I dont believe that much as much people talk. Of course thats there but in very small percentage. I more believe in players betting on their own games, but bookies to get inside of club - very hard.
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January 16, 2025, 02:52:17 PM
#51
If you do not want match fixing manipulations, do not bet on low leagues. Only go for the high leagues. The reason bettors are losing is not because of match fixing. It is because that is how betting is. Sport betting sites use low odds to work out the expected value which is making bettings to have more probability of losing.

Exactly. The odd providers do not care to do in depth analysis and they use this much more than should low odds in order to fool us to believe that this is going to be an easy win. In fact the reality is completely different, I still remember Boston Celtics leading the NBA and losing to last place at home with an odd of 1.04 which was the biggest surprise I have seen in ages in sport betting. The same can be said for tennis mostly as the sport with more surprise results than ever and then comes our beloved football which is almost the same as tennis just at a lower scale because all the world is a fan of watching football and they are exposed from time to time like Calciopoli 2006 scandal in Italy for example where big teams of Serie A was buying referees.
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January 16, 2025, 02:44:33 PM
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This is not true because such act is highly prohibited by nations they have a very strict laws against match fixing and any Player, coache, or official caught engaging in this practice risk being ban from the sport there by tarnishing their careers and reputations.
Just because something is highly prohibited it doesn't mean to not happen for real. Match fixing is a reality in many sports and leagues, possibly including main leagues sometimes. The fact sports betting has become popular nowadays just reinforces the chances matches are being fixed more frequently, because where there are financial rewards and human beings involved, you can be pretty sure there will be corruption as well.

What officials can do is to punish players and professionals in general involved on this practice with harsh measures, like banning them from the sports scene for decades, breach of contract and fines.

Sometimes I watch some unbelievable soccer plays on Youtube where scored goals happen in very ridiculous ways. On comments section many immediately point out it's a consequence of the sports betting houses.
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January 16, 2025, 02:29:59 PM
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You know what they say OP about a smoke without a fire? This news about match fixing has been going on for decades now, especially amongst the small leagues, and though it hasn’t actually been proven and no culprits has been apprehended but still, I don’t believe those news are just flying around for no reason. Yes a lot of gamblers may be using this as an excuse to why they’ve been losing more often in their bets, which isn’t actually true, I believe match fixing or manipulation is real and happening but not as it’s been exaggerated by gamblers.
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Gamblers are not exaggerating match fixing bro it happens. I notice that they hide there tracks so well that it becomes difficult to find out fixed matches. Apart from fixed matches the rate at which players go extreme to manipulate games so that their families or friends can win their bet.

Trust me, some gamblers actually do exaggerate this match fixture thing. Yes there's no doubt thatbit actually do happen but no as often as most gamblers claim that it does, when a gambler loses a bet that he's overly confident to have won, he looks for who to blame and claims that the match has been rigged or manipulated which isn't always true.

Gambling on a normal circumstance is absolutely unpredictable, thus; one should never be overly confident about their predictions.
I'm not saying match fixtures and manipulations are not real, yeah they are, I was even thinking that there hasn't been any culprit caught and apprehended,  but thanks to this threat, I've been able to see that there's actually been multiple cases.
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January 16, 2025, 02:28:25 PM
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If you do not want match fixing manipulations, do not bet on low leagues. Only go for the high leagues. The reason bettors are losing is not because of match fixing. It is because that is how betting is. Sport betting sites use low odds to work out the expected value which is making bettings to have more probability of losing.
Match fixing can happen in any league. Both the high leagues and low leagues. But it is most common in low league since they are less valued and no penalty giving can affect a player's career that matches. When it comes to the high league, match manipulations do not just happen within the players, it's done through officiating. That way no one is to be blam for what has been done. It will become less traceable and not too open. You will agree with me that match manipulation still occurs in the EPL including other top leagues.
I tend to agree with your point of view that match fixing can happen in top leagues through officiating. Players and clubs in top leagues will not want to risk their reputations by accepting match fix offers because they're very rich, it has to perhaps be from the match officials who are not directly involved in playing in a match but have the authority make decisions in a match. I don't have doubts that match fixing that can involve players and clubs can happen in lower leagues because they're not well funded. Money should be the main factor to accept match fixing so a league that is not in the spotlight can be quite easily  penetrated for match fixing.
That is why I try to bet only on major sporting events. Although I would like to believe that the odds there are not too bad for us, but you can always choose another bookmaker with better odds. In any case, I have no desire to bet on the lower leagues and I do not even understand who and why among ordinary players bets on them. Probably the fans of these teams and in this case I understand their love for the game and these teams. But sometimes you also need to decide whether to bet on your favorite team and sometimes lose or try not to pay much attention to your favorite team, but focus only on winning the maximum amount of money. I like the second option better.
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January 16, 2025, 02:26:05 PM
#47
If you do not want match fixing manipulations, do not bet on low leagues. Only go for the high leagues. The reason bettors are losing is not because of match fixing. It is because that is how betting is. Sport betting sites use low odds to work out the expected value which is making bettings to have more probability of losing.

Match fixing is not impossible but it is mostly obvious in those lower leagues that don't attract much interests from people so they can easily manipulate the outcome of matches there by using the referee or a player or even the coach, it happens sometimes when you can just see it clearly that it was a pure match fixing. Losing more than winnings in gambling has been the experience of gamblers since the origin of gambling so it's not as if the bookmakers engages in match fixing that makes winning in gambling become so extremely difficult. The reason why gambling losses is on the increase now may be as a result of the fact that most gamblers now depends on the odds of the bookmakers as to which team they favor to win instead of making judgement based on the recent activity of the events they want to bet on. Gamblers have become so lazy that most of them hardly check the statistics of the events they want to bet on and end up making the wrong selection of options they give to an event, hence the reason for rapid losses.
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January 16, 2025, 02:17:43 PM
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An aggrieved gambler may say anything to make themselves feel good including choosing to accuse a sports betting company of match fixing. Every new gambler should understand that the odds to win in gambling is not always in their favor and will always be in the favor of the company so the chances of them losing is always higher than the chances of them winning. Most sports betting companies do not also have the ability to fix matches, so the accusation that some sports betting companies are involved in match fixing to me is false.
I understand how you feel about how some gamblers behave and react to losing too much, as they are not ready to take fault and responsibility for losing, but that does not mean that match fixing doesn't happen or that it doesn't exist. It does, but it's not just as common as they are paraded online as if every match is fixed and the result has already been known, which is to favour the system. 
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January 16, 2025, 02:13:46 PM
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If you do not want match fixing manipulations, do not bet on low leagues. Only go for the high leagues. The reason bettors are losing is not because of match fixing. It is because that is how betting is. Sport betting sites use low odds to work out the expected value which is making bettings to have more probability of losing.
Match fixing can happen in any league. Both the high leagues and low leagues. But it is most common in low league since they are less valued and no penalty giving can affect a player's career that matches. When it comes to the high league, match manipulations do not just happen within the players, it's done through officiating. That way no one is to be blam for what has been done. It will become less traceable and not too open. You will agree with me that match manipulation still occurs in the EPL including other top leagues.
I tend to agree with your point of view that match fixing can happen in top leagues through officiating. Players and clubs in top leagues will not want to risk their reputations by accepting match fix offers because they're very rich, it has to perhaps be from the match officials who are not directly involved in playing in a match but have the authority make decisions in a match. I don't have doubts that match fixing that can involve players and clubs can happen in lower leagues because they're not well funded. Money should be the main factor to accept match fixing so a league that is not in the spotlight can be quite easily  penetrated for match fixing.
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January 16, 2025, 02:12:25 PM
#44
This is not true because such act is highly prohibited by nations they have a very strict laws against match fixing and any Player, coache, or official caught engaging in this practice risk being ban from the sport there by tarnishing their careers and reputations.

Not True?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/sep/10/chinese-fa-corruption-crackdown-players-club-officials-banned-match-fixing-gambling

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Zhang Xiaopeng, from the ministry of public security, said 44 individuals faced criminal penalties for bribery, gambling and the illegal opening of casinos, and 17 others were found to have engaged in bribery and match-fixing.In August, a former vice-president of the CFA was sentenced to 11 years for accepting bribes and a former director of the competition department was sentenced to seven years for the same offence. A former chairman of the CFA was sentenced to life in prison in March.

If I type cricket and match-fixing there is not a single year without a scandal somewhere in Asia about either a team or referee or a player.
And don't even get me started on tennis, I doubt there is a player under 200 ATP who has more games won than matches fixed.

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January 16, 2025, 01:53:20 PM
#43
You know what they say OP about a smoke without a fire? This news about match fixing has been going on for decades now, especially amongst the small leagues, and though it hasn’t actually been proven and no culprits has been apprehended but still, I don’t believe those news are just flying around for no reason. Yes a lot of gamblers may be using this as an excuse to why they’ve been losing more often in their bets, which isn’t actually true, I believe match fixing or manipulation is real and happening but not as it’s been exaggerated by gamblers.
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Gamblers are not exaggerating match fixing bro it happens. I notice that they hide there tracks so well that it becomes difficult to find out fixed matches. Apart from fixed matches the rate at which players go extreme to manipulate games so that their families or friends can win their bet.

In football players intentionally gets a yellow card in a game. Other sports too like boxing and the rest. Some players do commits for monetary reasons i cannot be so sure of. Sports manipulation is real and it includes match fixing.
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January 16, 2025, 01:47:36 PM
#42
Match fixing is real but likely more possible to occur in small leagues than big league. Corruption is not limited to any organization, industry or sector because greedy people are usually present in those places, and they are pioneers of these unlawful attitude. So, match fixing is real but you will not find it in some of these big league.
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January 16, 2025, 01:45:51 PM
#41
If you do not want match fixing manipulations, do not bet on low leagues. Only go for the high leagues. The reason bettors are losing is not because of match fixing. It is because that is how betting is.

Betting on low league's to avoid manipulations isn't the problem here, the thing is either you bet on high league or not there would still be chances of you loosing and winning at the same time because betting especially sports betting is more tactical than you can ever imagine but moreso some bets are easily influenced or manipulated and you as a better won't observe this cause it's inbuilt.
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January 16, 2025, 01:44:50 PM
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No culprits have been found? Really? Did you read about Son Jun-ho’s accusation about being involved in match fixing? Match fixing isn’t a myth it actually happens it’s just that it’s not something you get to see all the time since it take extremely insane amount of money and also connections to be able to get it to play, this is the only case I have seen and I’m not sure what later happens to him (I haven’t read recent news about Son) but I’m sure that if he could do something like this then there are others who’d also do the same.
Isn’t that interesting?
Well No, I haven’t come across the case you just mentioned, but I’ll definitely look it up. Well that just proves the point that match fixtures and manipulation isn’t just a myth as the OP actually claims in his post.

I believe I’ve had a testimony of match fixture back then when I was in the University. Although it’s still possible that was just mere luck. My roommates came in with a game they claimed to be a fixed correct score they bought from an anonymous source online, they claimed the source was reliable and they were able to convince me into joining them to play the game, I can’t remember the name of the clubs exactly but the game actually played according to how it was predicted, it could’ve been possible that it was indeed a correct score or just another online punter claiming to have access to an actual fixed game.
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January 16, 2025, 01:43:18 PM
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There's a news going round this days that the reason why gamblers are no longer winning games when it comes to sport betting is because sport bet companies and other influential people in the world always buy matches and tell them what they should play, for example two football clubs are playing a match tomorrow and a lot of people have predicted on that particular match and if majority of gambler's have predicted on it that sport bet companies will decide to buy the match in other for those clubs to play the unexpected.
This is not true because such act is highly prohibited by nations they have a very strict laws against match fixing and any Player, coache, or official caught engaging in this practice risk being ban from the sport there by tarnishing their careers and reputations.
One of the reasons why match fixing is not supported is because it kills the passion for that particular sport and Match-fixing involves manipulation and deception, betraying the trust of fans, players, and stakeholders who expect the sport to be genuine, that news flying around about match fixing is false, if your prediction didn't go as predicted those not mean the match was fixed.
The same way gamblers lose money sometimes that's same way sport betting companies lose money sometimes, and same way gamblers win sometimes that's same way sport betting companies win sometimes.




You are still sounding in your thread like you buy or agree with the information or rumor you are saying it is a false one. Saying that sport bet buys match is what I do not agree with because if we check very well not all of those companies are global I mean some of the sport bet companies are not world wide but to some extent I believe that match are fixed or manipulated sometimes and some of these fixed or manipulated match whenever you are watching them, you do not need someone to tell you because of how they will be playing, sometimes you will see a one on one chance a player will score even if they closed there eyes but you will be shocked how they will throw the ball outside and I think if there's no manipulation or fixed game gamblers will be making more win than loss, so there can be people who are in charge of doing this but not sport bet.
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