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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

You can often hear that good fans are an extra player, and I think that is the case sometimes. Fans can be that extra incentive for players to do their best and "leave their hearts on the field". But that is only one factor that may or may not be important, it is much more important that the team is good, in full form, and in a full lineup without injured players.

I saw this new system and I don't know what to think about it. It looks interesting at first glance, but we will see how it will look in reality... It might be interesting for fans from these countries to be able to attend various games, but it might be too tiring for the players.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

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There is a good saing - "the walls at home are your friends" and I agree with this statement. Roar ^{(the great shouts of the crowd)} coming from fans which are dominated at places native to athletes is either supporting or triggering their commitment to win - response which might be hidden inside their body should the given event has taken the place in the areas with hostile encirclement.

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Quote from: Sim_card on December 13, 2024, 06:45:09 AM

Of course, there are some clubs that their performance can be affected playing away from home. There are also some that playing away wouldn't affect them. But we know that any team playing at home will have that advantage of the crowd and the field he is used to playing most times. The new world cup format will definitely affect many countries at a start but in the long run, they will get used to it. It's the same thing with the new UCL format that's affecting some clubs currently.

Players are more comfortable playing in their home ground, the reason why most times when a team lost in their home ground it always becomes very difficult to win the same club when play at away, most times they will end up playing draw at a way after Lossing in their home ground, that which is called home advantage is very really even though most person may tend to argue that in their own perception. But however, I derive more comfort betting on club side than country game, most of the players don't usually bring their best performance when comes to nations games.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place?

It must be the country where the world cup will be held, one main factor that must be considered for football fans, if the FIFA world cup is held in 2030, Several countries mentioned in the source have fulfilled the requirements, regardless of whether they make it to the final or not, the point being that these countries have support from neighboring countries.

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Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform?

It is clear that the audience has a major role for the team or athlete, in sports it is called mental support, the bigger the audience, the more aggressive it is for the team to show their best, regardless of whether they lose or win, but it has a big influence.

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What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

What application do you mean, I don't understand, do you mean the FIFA World Cup rules for the countries mentioned, if so I think it's good.

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The whole thing has become a joke!

I would understand if it would mean something really great like you know Germany and France hosting this after WW1, but from what it was supposed to be to the actual meaningless political garbage that is the decisive factor is who is hosting what and in what format it has come down a long way.

Quote from: mak013 on December 14, 2024, 12:59:52 AM

Now we see awful decision - moving between America, Africa and Europe.
There is one more reason i don`t like these choice. I don`t sure that Morocco, Paraguay and Uruguay has good enough stadiums. It is possible that they will build new ones, but it is really difficult as for me for these countries to create good infrastructure and stadiums.

They don't need stadiums and at maximum only 6 teams will travel to South America.
Just the first 3 matches will be played in Argentina, Paraguay, and Uruguay the rest of the matches will be in Spain Portugal and Morroco, so most of the teams might travel less than half of what they did when Brazil hosted it.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place?

Since I am not visiting, I do not consider the country where the matches will be played as much, after all, FIFA and other governing bodies have their standards which must be adhered to by the host, so there is no way they will disappoint which is the main thing about football competitions. But visitors must care about the countries, some countries are hostile and many others do not allow total freedom of what you eat or drink and religion as a whole, there's no way this will not have its effect one way or another.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on December 13, 2024, 06:43:59 AM

I do not like to bet on continental and worth cup. This is because I am not good in such bets. I understand that it can be for fun but sometime I think I will prefer to just watch the matches and not bet on them. This is how I see continental and world cups. I really just prefer to bet on clubs matches.

From my understanding I noticed that club side are more that serious because they are paid heavily than continental cups. Though I could be wrong but while most of the matches are featured I do see this seriousness in them playing and putting much of their skills on club side than either nation/continental cup, in that you wouldn't see them put best of their talent to perform extensively the way they should do because they aren't that valued. Check out the history of most players today they solely originates from their clubs sides and what they are today are being paid from the clubs and not by their nations. So, this is why many people loves betting on club side game as you said than the nation/continental games.

On the other hand too, club games are always with us (if you understand what I mean), that is, club games/tournaments is a type of sports event that is always on our faces, and because of this, one who is always watching this clubs play have over time learnt the strength and weaknesses of each of this clubs, so when a club is to play against another club, it's easy to place bet on such match knowing the strength and weaknesses of both sides.

I clearly understand your points mate, that is why it is very hard to determines how they plays, so club side games gain much attention than that of FIFA, Word cup/continental cup. Most time it is that difficult to factor how they plays whom to win, and whom to lose due to their much gaped distances taking longer time and years to re-fixed another meeting, but club side gives to that constant moment to always factor out which people to win and people lose and if there were any changes within the short period of time.

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Frankly, I believe that the unique global footprint of the 2030 FIFA World Cup will definitely make things more unpredictable for gamblers and fans to know the winner from odds only. It's very known that the location of matches can significantly influence outcomes of matches as home crowds and crazy fans often boost team morale and performance.
While players also might feel more pressure or motivation based on the crowd’s energy and without forgetting the travel between continents could also impact teams’ fitness and strategies, arriving late or early. This can change and touch the format which ould favor teams with depth and adaptability but it also adds a layer of complexity for those analyzing form and performance for betting. It’s an exciting yet challenging shift for both teams and gamblers together, bur maybe the odds will make it up for the gamblers.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on December 13, 2024, 06:43:59 AM

I do not like to bet on continental and worth cup. This is because I am not good in such bets. I understand that it can be for fun but sometime I think I will prefer to just watch the matches and not bet on them. This is how I see continental and world cups. I really just prefer to bet on clubs matches.

From my understanding I noticed that club side are more that serious because they are paid heavily than continental cups. Though I could be wrong but while most of the matches are featured I do see this seriousness in them playing and putting much of their skills on club side than either nation/continental cup, in that you wouldn't see them put best of their talent to perform extensively the way they should do because they aren't that valued. Check out the history of most players today they solely originates from their clubs sides and what they are today are being paid from the clubs and not by their nations. So, this is why many people loves betting on club side game as you said than the nation/continental games.

On the other hand too, club games are always with us (if you understand what I mean), that is, club games/tournaments is a type of sports event that is always on our faces, and because of this, one who is always watching this clubs play have over time learnt the strength and weaknesses of each of this clubs, so when a club is to play against another club, it's easy to place bet on such match knowing the strength and weaknesses of both sides.

But talking about world cup/continental tournaments, this one is seasonal, like the FIFA world cup only comes around every 4 years (if I am not mistaken), four years is a long period of time, and withing this time, different countries go through a lot of changes which could affect their performance when the playing season comes, and for us the gamblers, it is often difficult to tell exactly what changes have happened with the team and how their performance will be, you discover that when betting, you are more of guessing than being sure to a certain level, this is why some gamblers will wait and watch different team play against each other, determine their performance before know how to go about placing bets to better their chances of winning.

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I think of the NFL when I read this thread and how they are trying to bring American Football to other countries such as Brazil, Germany, and London. Eventually I expect the sport to be worldwide. Soccer is already a worldwide sport and has millions of fans all across the globe.

I'm not sure players do or don't try harder when in a different country playing their sport, but I hope other countries feel that athletes represent their teams in the best way they can as well as I hope the athletes treat their hosts with respect and kindness.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on December 13, 2024, 06:43:59 AM

I do not like to bet on continental and worth cup. This is because I am not good in such bets. I understand that it can be for fun but sometime I think I will prefer to just watch the matches and not bet on them. This is how I see continental and world cups. I really just prefer to bet on clubs matches.

From my understanding I noticed that club side are more that serious because they are paid heavily than continental cups. Though I could be wrong but while most of the matches are featured I do see this seriousness in them playing and putting much of their skills on club side than either nation/continental cup, in that you wouldn't see them put best of their talent to perform extensively the way they should do because they aren't that valued. Check out the history of most players today they solely originates from their clubs sides and what they are today are being paid from the clubs and not by their nations. So, this is why many people loves betting on club side game as you said than the nation/continental games.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

I don't think this new system of FIFA will have much or any significant impact in the performance of the team/a country playing in the world cup. It can be assumed that the higher the number of supporters cheering for a team playing, the higher their chances of having a better performance and possibly winning the game, but this is not exactly or even near the motive for why FIFA is going with the new system, I believe the real motive in the new system of having several countries host the world cup at the same time is a way of uniting those countries through the game.

Football as we all know is one game that is loved in the whole world, 80 to 90 percent of all the matured people that live in a country love football, and there is no better way to unite the world and the people if not through football, so, I believe this is what fifa is trying to achieve, while also celebrating the game of football.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

In big events, I try to enjoy the game more than betting. For example, the World Cup or the Continental Cup. These matches usually have a lot of competition and match predictions are very complicated. Especially if you are betting on such big events, you will not be able to enjoy the events easily. You can choose bilateral matches or club level matches for betting.

To answer your question, I would like to say that this new FIFA rule will not have much impact on the big teams. Because, in professional football, you have to be able to play in any situation. However, at home, you get a different level of confidence and audience support. You even do not have to endure the pressure of travel, which a traveling team is deprived of. For small teams, these things can have a negative impact, but big teams do not make a mistake in proving their professionalism. Big teams are able to show their normal performance in addition to home advantage.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

There's a significant effect on some situations, but eventually every person would soon adapt the changes. They'll be getting used up with the changes and I think crowd would soon increase as well as the audience growing numbers. This huge event of FIFA is somehow a worldwide stream when each team match commences, so there's nothing impossible that this system would remain consistent and efficient.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

Yes, I think it totally affects how a determined team is going to perform. We have to take into consideration the atmosphere of the environment where the match is going to take place. The morale of the team who has the largest crowd will be surely much superior. Moreover, the native team is used to play on their field, so it's likely they play better there. There is also the travelling factor: imagine having to travel for several hours or a whole day by plane in order to play a match in another country on the another side of the world as soon as you disembark.

Of course it will have an impact over the team. There are also many other factors to take into consideration such as height and temperature of the country. On the other hand, these are never decisive factors. It's always possible for a team to overcome all the obstacles and challenges involved in order to win the match in the end, against all the expectations.

Compared to the number of spectators, I actually tend to see that factors such as location, weather, altitude, and field conditions can affect team performance, especially for example, teams that are accustomed to playing in cold climates may have difficulty in countries with high temperatures, because I remember if there was a match between Argentina, Brazil vs Bolivia at that time in the Coppa America which made Argentina and Brazil players have to vomit when the first half ended, the field owned by Bolivia was at a high altitude which caused oxygen to be very thin, so that's why I think the location and weather where the match starts is a factor that can greatly affect performance.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

For football matches the host is important factor which can influence the results of the particular matches and i think it's commonly happend in this sport even for league matches host team usually will being an the favourite to win the matches and for betting too the bookies usually give low odds for host teams and i believe the crowd from the audience will give an effect for the athlete who will play because it can give those athletes more fighting spirit to win the match and about new system of FIFA world cup i was remember World up 2002 Korea and Japan as a host but there were some of controversy and scandal at that year especially after Korea can able to advances to the semifinal because most people says Korea was helped by the referee

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

I always check the venue of the match, it's one of the parts I never leave out whenever I do my research because you could be leaving out a piece of important information and it could be the difference in securing a winning bet or avoiding an unnecessary loss.

The crowd does have some impact on teams, some of them could be feeding on their energy to gain confidence while others get pressured because i've seen people try to disrupt the opposing team in unusual ways.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

The home team has advantage. This the only truth. On the other hand we see long distance transfers for teams and decreasing quality of the football. Now we see awful decision - moving between America, Africa and Europe.
There is one more reason i don`t like these choice. I don`t sure that Morocco, Paraguay and Uruguay has good enough stadiums. It is possible that they will build new ones, but it is really difficult as for me for these countries to create good infrastructure and stadiums. Yes, it would be wonderful month for these countries people, but the price is too high as for me.

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I didn't even know that the next World Cup would be so big. It's a great event and I will definitely be following it closely and most likely be placing an increased number of bets on the matches. I have always believed that football lacks a global presence from all continents. The fact that Africa and South America are so poorly represented and many countries do not participate in the championships is a big omission of the organizers. However, it seems that as time goes by, we see that these mistakes are gradually being corrected. Perhaps this will be the most exciting World Cup in history!

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Yes, of course. And I think it also reflects in the odds. It is, for example, a significant factor if a team or athlete is playing in front of his/her home crowd. That's a big advantage. If a US team is playing in the US against a team from another country, it must be to their benefit.

But even if it isn't home country, it still has an effect. For example, if Uruguay is up against France and the game is played in Argentina, it must be to the advantage of Team Uruguay. Not only do they belong to the same region, they also speak the same language. The home fans would certainly be cheering for them, among other factors.

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