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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

For sure it affects, and i will explain to you why...

The next world cup will be in Mexico, USA and Canada. Some of the games in Mexico will be played in Mexico City and that place has a high of 2,240m, and that's really complex for athletes because they get tired really fast, even if they are in good condition the lack of oxygen makes them feel sick.

I don't like at all the fact that in 2030 it will be all around the globe.

In addition to hosting fan support, you have an approach to athlete performance and that is correct. It is important to consider the suitability of stadiums in countries or the suitability of geography, but I do not think FIFA cares about it. In short, location is very important for football players. In a crowded place, it directs everyone's attention to the matches, to be honest.

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Soccer is not something heavily dependent on where we play so it's become negligible other than the crowd support so it doesn't really matter when it comes to picking the teams to bet. Football is the biggest sport in the world right now so it's not wonder the association is trying to conduct the tournament in most venues as possible because it attracts more visitors so they get more business so eventually better profits.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

Well I don't know for other gamblers but I do have preference on where or the league of the match is located because for reason I have already tagged some and the way the results of the matches play out. Although I am talking about clubside teams as I really don't if this applies to international matches but I have certain way I play games in the Argentine league, Brazil league and most south America league as most of the games are home win influenced.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on December 13, 2024, 06:43:59 AM

I do not like to bet on continental and worth cup. This is because I am not good in such bets. I understand that it can be for fun but sometime I think I will prefer to just watch the matches and not bet on them. This is how I see continental and world cups. I really just prefer to bet on clubs matches.

What I think about your question is that it is possible that the matches result might be affected because the home can favour than playing away. Now it is 6 countries that will host the cup and not just a country.

In my case it is just the opposite: I prefer to bet on these important matches I often see with friends, and share the emotion with them, like when I tell them for example "if the team A scores thanks to a corner in the second half I invite you all to X" and we all are waiting to see if that happens.

That will be the case in the World Cup 2030 as it will take place, among others, in my country, Spain ^^, a fact that will make some friends get together to watch the games.

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It's very much known that the presence of a crowd can significantly impact a team's home performance because of the energy and support drawn from the crowd, which can act as a boost for the host team's performance, not to lose in the presence of their fans. However, not every home team wins every match played. That's what to be put into consideration when betting on a home team to win. Football match wins are not mostly on the home team to have 3 points victory, the away team can still have. It's from simple mistakes that the home or visiting team loses their matches. Mistakes can happen in whichever team, be it home or visiting team

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

Location does matter for players whichever sport it may be. We have also seen teams playing in homeground.
So yeah, considering locations is an advantage while betting on a match.
Talking about the crowd, I guess it shouldn't matter much. Sometimes the crowd do go out of their limits but players should not take it seriously and focus on their game instead.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

In my case, I just focus on seeing how each team has been performing in the last 5 home and away games, then I see which players from each team are injured. Because something I've noticed over the years that I've been following football is that the players aren't worried about what the fans think of them. So them going to play in Africa where there are no fans watching the game in the stadium won't affect their performance during the game. Football players nowadays are focused on playing well and taking good pictures during the games and posting them on social media to get a lot of attention and sponsorship. They don't care about the fans at the stadium.

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at a professional level these information have value 0. if you shout some slurs to a professional footballer probably he will just not notice.
There is of course a case where teams outside can suffer "the pression" of the crowd but it can being something minor...
Just think to Italy in 2006 when defeat Germany.... During world cup there was no game between the teams even with an impressive number of deutsch supporters at stadium.

Professional or not, they are still humans. I agree that in our times doesn't make such an impact but we can't take it out of the picture. The thing is that we are talking about National team games/tournament, which are very different from domestic teams, in all aspects. When your shirt has the badge of your country you simply give it all, nothing else matters. So even if they have some pressure, for sure they will not get it under their skin and they will all fight for every ball.

On his opinion, He has a valid point especially on a game like football that being played in open filled. It’s very hard to hear clearly what the crowd said so technically it will not affect the visiting players in an event that the crowd is throwing negative words just to down the feelings of player. It’s literally useless.

On the other hand, crowd cheering as support can help to boost the performance of players since it’s a positive sound which a player doesn’t need to hear clearly in able to motivate.

Right, the want to factor the crowd as well in international matches not just in football. And they are the intangibles, factors that we can't quantity and yet very important in sports. Fans are crowd boosting, how many times that we have seen cheers from them changing the outcome of the game? or at least players inspired actions because thousands of fans are cheering for them to win?

And logistically, it's also going to be a boost for their economy if the sports are going to be held in their country. As it will draw a lot of local fans resulting in a good ticket revenue for the organizer and the country itself.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

Basically FIFA is trying to get a stranglehold on the worldwide market, before other nations or groups manage to grow large enough to contest that power. You mention the crowd and we should definitely be cautious when it comes to hosting in certain countries, if penalties for things like flares, rioting or other thuggery is not dealt with by the host government properly. This is about money and power for FIFA, frankly it would be nice if there was another contender or competition in this sector, because FIFA has made some terrible governance decisions in the past, decides when to allow political activism (i.e. when not affecting their biggest spenders) and thinks it is above governments when it comes to certain decisions - they need knocking down a peg or two.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

For world cup matches my bets analysis considers only the countries. For intercontinental games, I also consider only the countries. When I consider home crowd versus away crowd is during club matches. But with this new system of FIFA World Cup, we may begin to look at the home crowd as also likely to have an effect on the teams performance.

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Quote from: bias on December 13, 2024, 10:49:12 AM

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at a professional level these information have value 0. if you shout some slurs to a professional footballer probably he will just not notice.
There is of course a case where teams outside can suffer "the pression" of the crowd but it can being something minor...
Just think to Italy in 2006 when defeat Germany.... During world cup there was no game between the teams even with an impressive number of deutsch supporters at stadium.

Professional or not, they are still humans. I agree that in our times doesn't make such an impact but we can't take it out of the picture. The thing is that we are talking about National team games/tournament, which are very different from domestic teams, in all aspects. When your shirt has the badge of your country you simply give it all, nothing else matters. So even if they have some pressure, for sure they will not get it under their skin and they will all fight for every ball.

On his opinion, He has a valid point especially on a game like football that being played in open filled. It’s very hard to hear clearly what the crowd said so technically it will not affect the visiting players in an event that the crowd is throwing negative words just to down the feelings of player. It’s literally useless.

On the other hand, crowd cheering as support can help to boost the performance of players since it’s a positive sound which a player doesn’t need to hear clearly in able to motivate.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on December 13, 2024, 06:43:59 AM

I do not like to bet on continental and worth cup. This is because I am not good in such bets. I understand that it can be for fun but sometime I think I will prefer to just watch the matches and not bet on them. This is how I see continental and world cups. I really just prefer to bet on clubs matches.

What I think about your question is that it is possible that the matches result might be affected because the home can favour than playing away. Now it is 6 countries that will host the cup and not just a country.

The fact that it is 6 countries hosting that world cup, makes it even more difficult to predict, so why not just enjoy the game and bet occasionally or not at all during the tournament.
I think the crowd would have a real effect on boosting or elevating the teams spirit because it is going to be so much different than when the world cup is hosted in a country or between two very close countries.

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Quote from: bitbollo on December 13, 2024, 10:28:51 AM

at a professional level these information have value 0. if you shout some slurs to a professional footballer probably he will just not notice.
There is of course a case where teams outside can suffer "the pression" of the crowd but it can being something minor...
Just think to Italy in 2006 when defeat Germany.... During world cup there was no game between the teams even with an impressive number of deutsch supporters at stadium.

Professional or not, they are still humans. I agree that in our times doesn't make such an impact but we can't take it out of the picture. The thing is that we are talking about National team games/tournament, which are very different from domestic teams, in all aspects. When your shirt has the badge of your country you simply give it all, nothing else matters. So even if they have some pressure, for sure they will not get it under their skin and they will all fight for every ball.

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at a professional level these information have value 0. if you shout some slurs to a professional footballer probably he will just not notice.
There is of course a case where teams outside can suffer "the pression" of the crowd but it can being something minor...
Just think to Italy in 2006 when defeat Germany.... During world cup there was no game between the teams even with an impressive number of deutsch supporters at stadium.

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Change is constant and sometimes we have to accept what it brings, normally I'd prefer if only one country hosts the world cup or max two countries that are near each other. But looking at the FIFA's new rule of up to six countries in different continents to host the world cup is not a bad idea, it has some added advantages to the tournament. Six automatic qualifications and also their advantages to play in front of their home crowds will give the host countries teams advantages to qualify for the next rounds.

As for gambling on world cup games, I believe that most gamblers will bet for fun, probably their national teams without applying much strategies. It's on club levels where the players plays regularly that strategies can apply most.

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I see that in the last year format updates have been introduced (as was done for the Champions League), now they are trying to do something new for other tournaments. Maybe there is nothing wrong with this, it will certainly play into the hands of the team that will play at home in front of its fans, but it will still not be a decisive decision, because the champion is rarely the representative of the country where the final takes place.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place?

With impartial officiating, I don't think playing away from home should mean anything. There shouldn't be anything like home advantage. It's only in corrupt and skewed officiating that we think of such. Everywhere should be home. That's what the beautiful game of football should be all about – fair play.

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Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform?

Yes, I believe it does. An athlete who is booed won't be at their optimum performance. It's a psychological thing. People love to be praised and paid compliments. It brings out the best in us. The opposite becomes the case when talked down.

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What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

I'm not really sure how this is going to turn out but it's worth trying at that level. We've had instances were tournaments were co–hosted by countries and such tournaments turned out well.

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The next world cup, which is the 2026 world cup is also co-hosted by 3 different countries: the United States, Mexico and canada, however, they are all from the same continent, North America. The 2030 world cup is larger because co-hosts are from different continents, while 2034 will be hosted by Saudi Arabia.

I prefer a single host for the tournament, but that is just me, and when gambling i focus more on the quality of the team playing and not where the match is played.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 13, 2024, 06:34:27 AM

"In 2030, we will have a unique global footprint, three continents - Africa, Europe and South America - six countries - Argentina, Morocco, Paraguay, Portugal, Spain and Uruguay - welcoming and uniting the world while celebrating together the beautiful game, the centenary and the FIFA World Cup."

As gamblers, do you also take into consideration the countries where a match takes place? Do you really believe that the crowd/audience does have some effect in how a certain team or certain athlete will perform? What do you think does this new system of FIFA World cup imply for the performance of the teams?

I only like to bet on clubs, I only bet on domestic football in a small number of countries that are reliable and strong. Especially in football club betting, the highest winnings are possible because each team and each player performs aggressively from their position.
And the games are full of great competition, and betting on clubs is different. But I don't get as much fun betting on those countries, that's why I bet less on domestic games, but I can get fun by betting on the final matches of the FIFA World Cup.

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I believe fans do have an impact on the team. For a player, it's always nice to play at home with the crowd cheering for you, that's a confidence booster. That is why it is called a homecourt advantage and the oddsmakers also add that up to the selection of bets. A home team can become a super favorite especially when they are good and their home crowd is so energetic. It could go up to x1.10 - x1.20 and that almost means it's a sure win for that home team.
The opposing team on the other hand can match that if they are a better team or on top of the rankings. Teams with superstars that are popular can also mean that most bets will be for their team and a sports bookie must balance that although they will remain the favorite even if they are the visiting team.

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