Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds - page 4.

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They failed to teach the student about honesty and also failed to trace that she is addicted to gambling

not sure what's the point of this post. it is not their job to teach her honesty and it is not their job to find find out whether she is addicted to gambling or not. she is a grown woman that can think for herself, she should know what is right and wrong. none of what happened is their fault, the person to blame here is the woman who gambled the money that is not hers.

I think he means teaching the girl an honesty during the childhood of this woman. She will not grow up like that if she has a strong foundation for having a good ethics. Probably this woman didn’t properly educated on things like this because a woman with strong ethics foundation will never do such thing since it’s a responsibility given to her by the class.

In this case, the woman is clearly at fault but this will be prevented if this woman think straight and doesn’t have any addiction which she get on her environment.

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It really doesn't mean that it was a "bad" idea, it is not just about bad or anything like that, it is also an immoral and illegal one that's the problem. I mean win or lose, this is a bad thing and it is an illegal thing. You can't embezzle funds and you can't just get away with it because you profited from it.

If you allow even one person to not follow the law then you have to accept the fact that it is not a law anymore, otherwise what is law for you may not become law for someone else and that's how corruption starts. I personally believe that this person should be jailed and to a maximum level, just because they failed to follow the law of the nation and should be prosecuted.

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What she did was very risky to experience defeat, and the worst part is that she can become addicted, and I think she has become addicted to gambling. Lottery games can really make a person addicted to gambling because, with ticket prices that are not too expensive, one can buy many tickets at once and wait for the results to come out. If he is lucky and can win, there is a tendency to buy another lottery ticket and do it again and it will also happen if he suffers a loss. Hopefully, she is aware of what she did and will try to recover from her gambling addiction and not repeat her actions.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 27, 2023, 06:13:09 PM

They failed to teach the student about honesty and also failed to trace that she is addicted to gambling

not sure what's the point of this post. it is not their job to teach her honesty and it is not their job to find find out whether she is addicted to gambling or not. she is a grown woman that can think for herself, she should know what is right and wrong. none of what happened is their fault, the person to blame here is the woman who gambled the money that is not hers.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on January 28, 2023, 07:05:20 AM

Hard to tell if she was addicted to it or just want to make money from that funds since students will never trust her if she has history of gambling addiction. Well, she may never forget it or good thing if she will change that behavior behind the bars and leave that behavior forever and change her way of living.

Losing too much money by playing lottery means she is addicted on it. This game is a slow phase game and it will take so many bets to have a debt of 40,000$ after a several winning. Only a serial gambling addicts who loves winning more or craving for jackpot will continuously gambling someone’s fund despite he already win some money.

Normal people with personal needs will stop the moment she gets profit. Also considering the fact that she is using the class funds is clear sign that she has an addiction problem.

Yes, and she won 5x, so it means that maybe when she win the first time, she feel addicted to it. For us it's call beginners luck, but that is the trap. Because once you taste that win, you wan to continue to play.

And the thing is that she won it that many times and still she loses money.

So most likely its not only the class funds that she embezzled, but probably there is more to it.

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Gambling is risky. To gamble with others money without their knowledge is even more riskier. Few might get lucky to experience good return out of the gamble whereas the majority ends up with loss. Here too we can experience the same scenario. In most of the incidents, the victim used to end his/her life. Here the medical student hadn't taken any such decision, which is really good. Atleast with this experience she will try to correct herself and stay away from addicted gambling.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on January 28, 2023, 07:05:20 AM

Hard to tell if she was addicted to it or just want to make money from that funds since students will never trust her if she has history of gambling addiction. Well, she may never forget it or good thing if she will change that behavior behind the bars and leave that behavior forever and change her way of living.

Losing too much money by playing lottery means she is addicted on it. This game is a slow phase game and it will take so many bets to have a debt of 40,000$ after a several winning. Only a serial gambling addicts who loves winning more or craving for jackpot will continuously gambling someone’s fund despite he already win some money.

Normal people with personal needs will stop the moment she gets profit. Also considering the fact that she is using the class funds is clear sign that she has an addiction problem.

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Quote from: uneng on January 27, 2023, 09:25:16 PM

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More importantly, why trust graduation funds to a student? This is the first time I saw a student able to access a graduation fund. Regardless of the student's status or let's say she is a top notcher, any related to graduations shouldn't be handled by a student.

Because students contribute to this fund periodically, probably every month. They compose a comission with few members chosen by themselves to manage the fund. It's their responsability to keep their own money safe for the graduation's expenses. I believe other people wouldn't want to be responsible for keeping it.

I'm aware of that system inside a school but here in the story, I will assume that these students are already at the highest level where contribution to fund graduation is not a usual practice anymore, at least compared to what's the usual practice here in our country. That's why I said that's the first time I hear of a student able to access graduation funds specifically at that level.

Well then, what happened already happened and consequences will surely be imposed or already happened now even though no follow-up news was posted. We don't have any idea what happened next in that story.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on January 27, 2023, 05:43:11 PM

This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.

What a pathetic student, still studying yet have set an eyes on embezzling money that's not hers, this kind of student may goes through in life but surely the same thing is her way to be successful. She knows the risk and I assume she is conscious when she gamble the money so I think that she needs to face jail time and she deserves it.

It should be like that, and he should be given a penalty for deterrent effect and also for the example of other gamblers not to gamble with money that is not his.
it seems he has become an addict because most addicts will use anyone's money and also from anywhere to keep playing, and indeed he is aware but realizes he has been blinded by ambition and also greed which does not necessarily result as expected.
and a person like that is very dangerous if not handled properly, because it will definitely happen again and maybe before he did the same thing betting with money that is not rightfully his.

Hard to tell if she was addicted to it or just want to make money from that funds since students will never trust her if she has history of gambling addiction. Well, she may never forget it or good thing if she will change that behavior behind the bars and leave that behavior forever and change her way of living.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on January 28, 2023, 05:40:55 AM

Quote from: Gozie51 on January 27, 2023, 05:43:11 PM

This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.

What a pathetic student, still studying yet have set an eyes on embezzling money that's not hers, this kind of student may goes through in life but surely the same thing is her way to be successful. She knows the risk and I assume she is conscious when she gamble the money so I think that she needs to face jail time and she deserves it.

It should be like that, and he should be given a penalty for deterrent effect and also for the example of other gamblers not to gamble with money that is not his.
it seems he has become an addict because most addicts will use anyone's money and also from anywhere to keep playing, and indeed he is aware but realizes he has been blinded by ambition and also greed which does not necessarily result as expected.
and a person like that is very dangerous if not handled properly, because it will definitely happen again and maybe before he did the same thing betting with money that is not rightfully his.

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and now even student is becoming addicted in gambling and can act like this? how our students nowadays become?
wondering what kind of family breeding this human has all her life.
and now she is facing several case that will ruin her life forever.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on January 28, 2023, 05:40:55 AM

Quote from: Gozie51 on January 27, 2023, 05:43:11 PM

This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.

What a pathetic student, still studying yet have set an eyes on embezzling money that's not hers, this kind of student may goes through in life but surely the same thing is her way to be successful. She knows the risk and I assume she is conscious when she gamble the money so I think that she needs to face jail time and she deserves it.

and this is a decision she will never forget forever and this is also what would make her life ruined forever.

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The fact that she had the gall to even say that she invested in a brokerage and got scammed and yet refused to present any sort of evidence whatsoever is actually quite brave. I'm actually amazed that she still won, could've possibly made a profit if she stopped early on. People probably wouldn't have judged her if all ended well, but since it didn't, then she simply has to take the responsibility for the consequences of all of it.

Nevertheless, the fact that the money wasn't even hers in the first place and she used it for gambling is stupid already. I'm amazed the lottery let her go under debt just to bet, never knew that was possible (it isn't in my area afaik).

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Quote from: uneng on January 27, 2023, 02:44:50 PM

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Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.
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I tried to search more on this case but found nothing new, no updates on the story. Maybe it's because I don't speak Portuguese, and it's more of a local news there. Anyway, it would be interesting to read not only updates, but a more detailed account of this one.

I'd like to find out what were her motives. Was she religious? Or, did she think she knows how to win the lottery?

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Quote from: Gozie51 on January 27, 2023, 05:43:11 PM

This is a risk that doesn't really sound nice. The effect of being an addict is what we see with this. To play gambling game, you need your personal money for it and not public money but what she has done is high risk that can get her into trouble.

What a pathetic student, still studying yet have set an eyes on embezzling money that's not hers, this kind of student may goes through in life but surely the same thing is her way to be successful. She knows the risk and I assume she is conscious when she gamble the money so I think that she needs to face jail time and she deserves it.

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If only she were able to control herself to just return the funds she risked and just enjoy the profit she made, maybe the story turned differently. Although it's also possible that after losing all those profits, she will use again the funds, at least there might be some things that will change her mind.

It's clear that the woman got carried away and since she feels lucky, she just continues gambling until everything loses.

Aside from facing the law, that is something embarrassing to her colleagues and I doubt she still has the courage to face those people in their school.

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If she were a math or statistics student probably she would not have made such huge and gross mistake.She should have known better that the odds to win national lotteries are really low,just as an example to 6 from 49 you need 13.8 million tickets to be sure that a 6 number combinations will come,now is another story what is the price to buy such tickets but 99.99% of the times is higher than the winning prize which does not make a lot of sense to do this.

Beside that,tell me one person who has become rich by cheating others and they have kept their fortune because I know some have become by doing such cheats but not for long.

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It was a stupid thing to do by sacrifice money for his graduation into gambling. However, the risks are enormous because gambling is not a place to double money fast but to lose money fast. I wonder how the graduation will go if there is no money.

Once again, we get a valuable lesson from that story where when the desire to get lots of money has taken over, we will forget our responsibilities. We can use the money for pleasure regardless of what will happen later.

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Quote from: uneng on January 27, 2023, 02:44:50 PM

A brazilian medicine college student diverted almost 200.000$ from the graduation comission's funds, which belonged to her whole class, to place high bets through the national lottery.

She won sometimes on short run, but after all, faced a huge loss and went into almost 40.000$ debt. After scamming the lottery, the police department was triggered and the investigation has started.

She was investigated for money laundering and embezzlement. Later on, it was discovered the funds' origin.

Meanwhile, the class students became suspicious about the situation after the woman told on her class Whatsapp's group funds raised for graduation were lost after she invested it in a brokerage firm and was scammed by it, but no further documents and evidences could be provided, because everything was robbed!

Since then, no more updates about the case have been shared on the news. It happened about 2 weeks ago.

Medical student wins lottery 5 times after embezzling graduation funds

This is what addiction does to people, unfortunately. And addiction is a very real disease even if some people scoff at that very notion. I am not going to feel sorry for her, as her actions were her own and she deserves the punishments that she will undoubtedly receive, but I can definitely say that at the very least, I understand.

Had she the self control to stop at a profit, she might have covertly been able to put the money back where it belongs, without anyone noticing and she would have made a profit as well. Not that I condone gambling with stolen money. Just saying.

It seems towards the end she just became desperate.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 28, 2023, 12:46:15 AM

What a way to graduate! And what school are they from that they managed to raise $200,000 just for graduation funds? The woman clearly has her priorities though it's not in a way that benefits her nor the people around her. I guess she believed that she can beat the system so much that she was determined to use funds that are not hers in order to make bets. Unluckily, she won, but her winnings aren't enough to cover for what she used. She's clearly delusional, and she deserves to be in jail to learn her lesson.

This is addiction if she is gambling on daily basis plus she's a scammer and cheater who used class graduation funds for her personal interest. Serious action should be taken against such people who play with future of the people and cause such harmful affects to them.

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What a way to graduate! And what school are they from that they managed to raise $200,000 just for graduation funds? The woman clearly has her priorities though it's not in a way that benefits her nor the people around her. I guess she believed that she can beat the system so much that she was determined to use funds that are not hers in order to make bets. Unluckily, she won, but her winnings aren't enough to cover for what she used. She's clearly delusional, and she deserves to be in jail to learn her lesson.

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