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Quote from: game-protect on April 19, 2017, 02:36:10 PM

Thank you for clarify with "All Time Profit"

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Quote from: game-protect on April 19, 2017, 07:26:19 AM

Curiously, the losses are all very small and profits are huge, but statistically the losses could be also huge and profits small within a short period!

Indeed. Among 30 biggest backers, almost all have been in long enough to make a profit.

How long is been in long enough?

If the backer invested an amount and never changed it, it would normally be since the last all time high profit seen on https://www.megadice.com/stats/#Game-Daily-Total-Profit

But a backer's share also depends on other backers' bets, so there is no way to tell an exact date.

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Quote from: MegaDice on April 14, 2017, 11:09:23 AM

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If the ownership did change, how was the player account details transferred?

Control of the game servers were moved to MegaDice

This is a blatant lie! Rakki N.V. was operator of satoshidice.com and had control of the game servers and Rakki N.V. is as well the operator of megadice.com and still has control of the same game servers.

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How was the invested funds managed? Why were they not made known to players and investors?

An email was sent to all players and bankroll backers notifying them all satoshidice accounts were moving to megadice.com

Absolute nonsense!

If MegaDice is a separate entity (as you claim), there is a new contract relationship! You would need to ask all players and bankroll backers if they agree to move their balance to the new entity MegaDice. As MegaDice is a new contract partner, all players and bankroll backers would also need to agree to your terms and conditions!

Only if MegaDice and SatoshiDice is the same entity, if the contract relationship did not change, then notifying would have been sufficient.

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Quote from: jems on April 19, 2017, 09:41:29 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on March 15, 2017, 06:20:10 PM

Cant register a new account? Both login and join now button redirects me to login option and no ways to register a new account? Is it a problem with my browser only or all people get the same issuse with me? I'm using chrome on my android phone.

same issue here im just trying to register but always redirect in login option and i guest will fix soon im using browser and many ads here .

We have made now so that when clicking the LOG IN button, it will only show login fields, and when the JOIN NOW button is clicked it will only show the register new account fields.

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Quote from: coinplus on April 19, 2017, 01:06:28 AM

I can’t believe these are going on with satoshidice brand.

Considering how this was Vorhees’s baby and brought in so much Money and even correlated with blockchain.info in the website.

Considering it was sold for a huge amount and the the new owners was alright at the beginning (however I was only interested like in the first couple of days). It is such a shame these are going on with such a great quality brand once upon a time.

It has been stated before that they are not selling it. They only change their domain and most of its bankroll and everything is seems to be exactly the same as satoshidice. And until today we never know about their motives why they need to rebranding, although they have good traffic before

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Quote from: panjul07 on March 15, 2017, 06:20:10 PM

Cant register a new account? Both login and join now button redirects me to login option and no ways to register a new account? Is it a problem with my browser only or all people get the same issuse with me? I'm using chrome on my android phone.

same issue here im just trying to register but always redirect in login option and i guest will fix soon im using browser and many ads here .

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Thank you for clarify with "All Time Profit"

Quote from: MegaDice on April 19, 2017, 12:28:43 PM

Quote from: game-protect on April 19, 2017, 07:26:19 AM

Curiously, the losses are all very small and profits are huge, but statistically the losses could be also huge and profits small within a short period!

Indeed. Among 30 biggest backers, almost all have been in long enough to make a profit.

How long is been in long enough?

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Quote from: RocketSingh on April 19, 2017, 05:34:51 AM

Quote from: RHavar on March 15, 2017, 05:59:30 PM

This is satoshidice.com rebranded?

Satoshidice.com is now forwarded to bitcoinvideocasino.com/dice. Am I missing something?

As of now, satoshidice.com (domain) has nothing to do with megadice.

We don't know if Megadice is Satoshidice rebranded or Satoshdice game software sold.

Note that Megadice uses the same Satoshidice cold storage.

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Quote from: RHavar on March 15, 2017, 05:59:30 PM

This is satoshidice.com rebranded?

Satoshidice.com is now forwarded to bitcoinvideocasino.com/dice. Am I missing something?

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Quote from: coinplus on April 19, 2017, 01:06:28 AM

I can’t believe these are going on with satoshidice brand.

Considering how this was Vorhees’s baby and brought in so much Money and even correlated with blockchain.info in the website.

Considering it was sold for a huge amount and the the new owners was alright at the beginning (however I was only interested like in the first couple of days). It is such a shame these are going on with such a great quality brand once upon a time.

Honestly my guess is that the owner that bought Satoshidice is some early early bitcoin adopter who probably owns like 100,000 BTC and he bought it purely for fun. Had no incentive to build it up to compete with sites like PrimeDice and just let it go downhill.

Now sold the domain for fractions of what he paid for.

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I can’t believe these are going on with satoshidice brand.

Considering how this was Vorhees’s baby and brought in so much Money and even correlated with blockchain.info in the website.

Considering it was sold for a huge amount and the the new owners was alright at the beginning (however I was only interested like in the first couple of days). It is such a shame these are going on with such a great quality brand once upon a time.

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Quote from: adaseb on April 18, 2017, 02:31:40 AM

I am pretty sure the domain is more valuable in itself since the site. So whatever site Satoshidice.com is forwarded to will automatically get free traffic since its well known since 2012 or so.

It was even featured in a few Bitcoin documentaries because it was known as being the largest Bitcoin site to ever go on sale.

Of course was the domain the more valuable part! For what would they have paid $12 million if the domain was leased?

But unfortunately, the domain was the more valuable part, as it is in free fall recently!

Alexa Global Rank: 436,716 - 121,621 = 40% down within 3 months!

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I am pretty sure the domain is more valuable in itself since the site. So whatever site Satoshidice.com is forwarded to will automatically get free traffic since its well known since 2012 or so.

It was even featured in a few Bitcoin documentaries because it was known as being the largest Bitcoin site to ever go on sale.

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Quote from: ndnh on April 17, 2017, 09:16:40 AM

I really have no idea what you are talking about. Cheesy

You are not able to understand that the operator of a gambling website has to pay out the winnings and refill the hot wallet?

No wait, the domain owner has to process the Bitcoins, not the operator, according to your brain wash theory! Cheesy

Quote from: ndnh on April 17, 2017, 09:16:40 AM

Implies the person who had control of private key of the Satoshidice cold storage is part of Megadice (or the team is stupid)

What is MegaDice?

Quote from: ndnh on April 17, 2017, 09:16:40 AM

Implies there was some change in ownership of the game software.

Who is the owner of the game software?

Quote from: ndnh on April 17, 2017, 09:16:40 AM

Implies someone else owns satoshidice.com at the moment

Who owns satoshidice.com at the moment?

Quote from: ndnh on April 17, 2017, 09:16:40 AM

But how did you establish the ownership did not change Huh

How did you establish that the ownership changed?

Quote from: ndnh on April 17, 2017, 09:16:40 AM

I mean satoshidice.com not SatoshiDice.

O.k., how much is the value of the according to you very valuable satoshidice.com domain?

Quote from: ndnh on April 17, 2017, 09:16:40 AM

There is no reason why they should not use the same entities company or hire the same staff.

You want to brain wash that different entities use the same company and stuff?

Based on what is it a different entity then?

In online gaming, everything is focused on the operator, the license, managing director, etc. Same operator = same entity, simple!

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Quote from: Invisible Hand on April 16, 2017, 07:00:24 PM

Quote from: ndnh on April 16, 2017, 06:01:45 AM

Is it possible that Rakki N.V. never owned satoshidice.com domain in the first place? The domain leased out to Rakki N.V. who hosted the game with Satoshidice brand. Later the owner of the domain gets a better deal from bitcoinvideocasino, and Rakki N.V. moves out to a new domain with Megadice brand?

This is the best theory so far. It explains that there was no need to move the cold storage too.

A different but possible theory:

Derik owns the satoshdice.com domain and the Satoshidice game through Rakki N.V. and also controls the cold storage.
Derik needs $$$.
Derik sells the domain to bitcoinvideocasino which plans to gradually rebrand itself to use satoshidice.com
Derik sells part of his stake in Rakki N.V. to Merick (who wants to turn Satoshidice to a competitive casino with 0.9% dice and many slot games) while retaining the cold storage keys.
Derik and Merick launches Megadice.

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Domain leasing is possible.
Source : https://www.godaddy.com/community/Managing-Domains/Is-Domain-Name-Leasing-possible/td-p/6854

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Did the ownership change?

Yes. SatoshiDice.com owner had other plans for the domain.

Implies someone else owns satoshidice.com at the moment.

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Do the Megadice team and the old Satoshidice team have people in common?

Yes. The megadice team have hired some members as well as additional personel to improve player experience and support

Implies some Megadice staff were Satoshidice staff. That is expected.

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What is your relations with Bitcoinvideocasino?

No relation. MegaDice has no connection with Bitcoinvideocasino

Implies someone else owns satoshidice.com at the moment.

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Who owns Satoshi Circle?

This is for the owner of Satoshi Circle to declare. However, we can say MegaDice are not involved in Satoshi Circle.

Implies someone else owns Satoshi Circle at the moment.

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Why are you using the old cold wallet address if you are the 'new' owners? (or did you have their private keys all along? )

Cold storage and accounts were moved and are now exclusively managed by MegaDice. The old cold storage is used because we want to demonstrate that the accounts and cold storage remain uncompromised.

Implies the person who had control of private key of the Satoshidice cold storage is part of Megadice (or the team is stupid)

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Hey adaseb! MegaDice is a separate entity to SatoshiDice.

Implies there was some change in ownership of the game software.

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Quote from: ndnh on April 16, 2017, 06:01:45 AM

Contrary to what you may think, Satoshidice is a very valuable brand.
This is certainly not because they 'want to get rid of SatoshiDice'.

How much is the value of the brand SatoshiDice? The most valuable part of a website only operation is the traffic to the domain and not the brand itself.

Why want Rakki N.V. no longer use the "very valuable brand" SatoshiDice and instead decided to put a lot of money and time in to introduce the brand MegaDice?

Are you able to understand that the brand SatoshiDice is gone? Only the domain satoshidice.com is left which redirect to bitcoinvideocasino.

By Satoshidice brand I mean the connected satoshidice.com domain privilege. Sorry for the confusion there.

Rakki N.V. no longer uses the "very valuable brand" because Rakki N.V. no longer owns the satoshidice.com domain because "The owners of SatoshiDice.com had other plans for SatoshiDice.com".

Quote from: ndnh on April 16, 2017, 06:01:45 AM

Until we get some input, we can take Megadice, satoshidice.com and bitcoinvideocasino to be different entities.

SatoshDice and MegaDice has the same operator and is therefore the same entity!

I mean satoshidice.com not SatoshiDice.

Quote from: ndnh on April 16, 2017, 06:01:45 AM

Quote from: game-protect on April 15, 2017, 06:53:40 PM

The ownership of Rakki N.V. did not change!

Source?

Curacao Chamber.

http://www.curacao-chamber.cw/services/registry/search-company

But how did you establish the ownership did not change Huh

Quote from: ndnh on April 16, 2017, 06:01:45 AM

Is it possible that Rakki N.V. never owned satoshidice.com domain in the first place? The domain leased out to Rakki N.V. who hosted the game with Satoshidice brand. Later the owner of the domain gets a better deal from bitcoinvideocasino, and Rakki N.V. moves out to a new domain with Megadice brand?

No, most part of the $12 million SatoshiDice purchase was paid for the traffic to the domain satoshidice.com. Therefore, we can exclude that the domain was leased.

If the brand SatoshiDice would be the valuable part, then bitcoinvideocasino would have changed its name to SatoshiDice instead of forwarding the traffic from the domain satoshidice.com to bitcoinvideocasino.

That makes absolutely no sense lol!

Quote from: game-protect on April 16, 2017, 07:22:44 PM

Quote from: Invisible Hand on April 16, 2017, 07:00:24 PM

Quote from: ndnh on April 16, 2017, 06:01:45 AM

Is it possible that Rakki N.V. never owned satoshidice.com domain in the first place? The domain leased out to Rakki N.V. who hosted the game with Satoshidice brand. Later the owner of the domain gets a better deal from bitcoinvideocasino, and Rakki N.V. moves out to a new domain with Megadice brand?

This is the best theory so far. It explains that there was no need to move the cold storage too.

This theory is absolute nonsense, because the operator of the website need to have access to the cold storage to pay larger wins and not the domain holder who lease it to the operator. Hence, an absolute brain wash theory! Roll Eyes

I really have no idea what you are talking about. Cheesy

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