Topic: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread - page 3. (Read 5830 times)

Yang mga datos na yan hindi na ko naniniwala dyan, siguro kung totoo man eh di mabuti, pero tingin ko nagiging exaggerated na mga opisyal...
vaccine, magiging sagot pwede, pero tignan natin ang katotohanan kung mabibigyan ba lahat nito, dito masusubukan yung mahirap o mayaman.
nakakalungkot isipin na mas madami ang bilang ng mahirap sa atin kung kaya pag nagkataon delubyo ito pag hindi lahat nabigyan.

Possible since malaki rin count ng recoveries natin. The thing is, 'yong mga nadi-discharge is 'di naman napa-follow up ng mga doctors or anyone medical related employees if they were totally free na or showing no symptoms, basta ma-complete lang 'yong 14 days quarantine then good to go na  . Kaya 'di rin definite 'yong data either way.
Vaccine na lang malinaw na pag-asa dito at parang malabo na 'yong 0 report cases sa ganitong estado natin. Saka para 'di na doble hirap pa, kasi parang wala na ring plausible action 'tong government natin.

Pinas pa ba? di tayo papatalo pagdating sa mga ganyan,...
Utang, kahirapan, kurapsyon, ngayon sakit... kelan nga ba tayo nagpatalo? lagi tayong sunod sa uso. Kaya hindi na bago satin yan kung tutuusin, mas magiging bago satin kung hindi tayo dinapuaan nyan.

Samin din ay medyo strict since need pa rin ng quarantine pass paglalabas and hindi pa rin pwede ang mga 20 at pababa, although marami paring nakakalabas kahit below sa age limit. Siguro kulang din talaga sa pag check ang mga awtoridad.

Pero sabi sa article na to, predict nila na baka mag flatten na yung curve by the end ng August or September. Although nasa katapusan na tayo ng August at mukhang hindi pa naman visible na papunta na nga tayo doon, pero sana ay tama ang prediction nila para hindi na lumala.

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Not sure pero nakadepende pa rin yata sa area. Pero dito kasi medyo strict pa rin, you still have to present some necessary stuff just to prove na galing ka sa work mo kaya late ka na nakauuwi.

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I just stumble upon this news. May ilalala pa ba 'tong mga balita?
Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news

If I recall correctly, 'di ba 'yong first case ng corona virus dito sa 'tin is from a Chinese tourist na galing directly from Wuhan yata? Bakit ngayon may pagtanggi  .

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We already surpass 200k mark na pala kahapon, here. At mukhang aabot pa yata tayo sa top 10 most cases worldwide if 'yong increment sa new cases natin still continue for a month.

Do you guys think MECQ will be extended in NCR, or will Duterte announce the move back to GCQ? I heard that originally they planned on moving to GCQ after the 18th as the government no longer has funds to buy food for all the people out of work there, but now some agencies are suggesting 14 more days of MECQ.. I'm hoping its GCQ so I can fly home, and not have a 3rd flight cancelled.

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akala ko na lift na yung curfew pati sa mga bata but if that is the case. ang dami palang pasaway na magulang na hinahayaan ang mga anak na lumabas. dito sa area namin napaka raming bata ang nag alalro sa labas ng bahay hanggang gabi. walang nag papatrol na brgy. tanod or security guard para sawaying yung mga bata. nakakaumay nang tumingin sa balita sa sobrang daming mga pasaway na tao, mga incompetent na governement officials.

Afaik, ang curfew eh para lang sa kabataan,... naghahatid sundo ako kay kumander inaabot ako ng 10-12 pm sa byahe atska ang dami ko din nakikita na nakatambay actually di ko alam kung may sinusundo rin, dito sa laguna medyo active lang eh Los Banos. the rest maluwag sa checkpoint maliban na lang siguro kung may utos sa kanila LoL.

makikita mo na lang talaga sila mga naggagadget tapos nakaupo patingin tingin lang.

100%. I know a few people na kung saan saan nagpupunta kahit may mga checkpoints, tapos mostly gabi pa, past the 9pm curfew. Ang sabi saakin is mostly for mga tambay at naglalakad lang daw sa gabi ung curfew, pero since 2 weeks ago angdami paring tao sa labas past 9pm.

^Unless for minors nalang ung curfew so correct me if I'm wrong.

Actually wala ng umiikot na pera kaya hindi rin nagsisispag ang ibang municipalities. Samantalang noong una plang na lockdown eh ang sisipag manita kahit mga tricycle drivers sa barangay.

Nas culture din talaga ng mga Filipino ang last minute, kaya kung kelan may nagkaroon ng virus sa kanilang lugar ay bago palang sila naghihigpit sa communities nila which is too late na talaga.

Pwede pa magamit barrier kay no. 2

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Tungkol sa news being circulated ng mga iba't ibang stations tungkol sa mga milyones na unreported/undetected case sa Pinas ayon sa pag-aaral daw ng isang unibersidad, narito ang rebuttal ng former IATF consultant, isang spesyalista sa pagaaral ng infectious diseases, at siang molecular biologist.

Post link: https://www.facebook.com/edselmaurice.salvana/posts/10207985143221955

What else can we expect, I think hindi lang sa 'Pinas nangyayari ito if wala pang gaanong grabe na pangyayari hindi pa mag implement ng stricter protocol. From my observation rin humina kasi kulang yung ayuda sa mga municipal frontliners something like that, wala na ring motivation mga tao na sumunod if ever walang ayudang natatanggap, sad but this is what I observed.

More like we are at second wave of this pandemic and if there's no stricter protocol at hindi pa sumunod yung iba sa mga guidelines tiyak 1 million isn't that hard for the Philippines to achieve such lengths of cases.

Magagamit pa naman nila mga barrier sa pagpriprito para di sila matalsikan ng mantika. And dami tlagang palpak ng mga nagpapatupad ng batas. Mapapamura ka n lng tlaga sa liit ng utak nila.

Sa mga check points talaga ay hindi na sila maxado naghihigpit. I'm travelling back and fort from Manila to province, most of them are not strict on checking people that passing the check point which are mostly LGU hired people that not implementing the proper guidelines. In the end, disiplina din sa mga namumuno ng kada Locals ang kailangnan higpitan para yung mga essentials lang talaga yung makadaan.

Has anybody tried to get a travel pass?

My girlfriend missed her family so I helped her go back home by airplane (most ferries are still cancelled). Getting the requirements for getting a Travel Pass as a LSI (locally-stranded individual) goes something like this:

1. Monitor your temperature AM and PM, and symptoms, for 14 days (but you can just make this data up if you can't get real temperature recordings -- everybody fakes this part)
2. Get a LSI Registration Form from the local Barangay Hall
3. Get a Daily Individual Signs and Symptoms Log Sheet from the local health center
4. Have the health center Nurse on Duty sign off on your log sheet
5. Bring the log sheet back to the Barangay office and have them give you a Mandatory Quarantine Certification
6. Bring the certification to the City Hall and have the mayor's office sign off on a Travel Pass
7. Bring the Travel Pass to the Police Department so they can clear you for travel.

The whole thing should take 3 days, and you will wait in line for 3 or more hours a day each day.

Since I'm a foreigner they added an extra step between steps 5 and 6... I was turned away at the City Hall and they told me I had to go get some extra form from the City Health Office, which was very crowded. I felt like I was gonna get sick just waiting there with everyone, so I'm gonna try again on Monday and go early in the morning.

Also as a foreigner I needed to get an Exit Clearance at the Bureau of Immigration, which was also not fun. I've had 2 flights cancelled so far. All I can do is hope Manila goes back to GCQ after Aug 18th so I can finally leave, as my visa expires early September.

Hay nako.

Hindi ako masaya.

Naive implementations from the government. Here's one fact, sa rehiyon ko tumaas bigla yung cases at malala pa diyan mukhang may community transmission na rin Ang ibang nga municipality. One thing na naobserbahan ko mukhang nag lie low yung gobyerno (I'm speaking about my LGU but most likely it applies to other near LGUs) at yung mga stricter protocol na in-implement nila noon biglang humina, my God we have already cases pero parang mas humina pa tuloy.

If ever MECQ is at plan I mostly agree rather than risk to have more transmission in the end. Our City and Provincial Hospitals are now nearing full and the saddest part was the frontliners of one Provincial Hospital mga 20+ na nurses ang nagpositibo.

Patuloy man ang pagtaas ng cases, ang mga nkakaloka is yung biglang pagtanggal ng barriers for the couple or magkasama sa bahay. Mga katrabaho ko is bumili pa nito kahit sa mataas na halaga tapos bigla pwede na? Only in the Philippines .

Yep. Weekly base na 'yong report, right? Expect mo na 'to sa incoming reports nila, napabayaan na rin 'yong data sa simula pa lang. Baka siguro rekta tagging as "recovered" na lang ginagawa nila behind after ma-complete nung patient 'yong 14 days ng quarantine niya, without even confirming if lumala ba 'yong kaso niya or not. Besides, imagine ipa-follow up ng mga na sa medical field 'yang karami na 'yan eh dami na rin nilang shortcomings sa pagha-handle niyang mga 'yan. I can't blame them rin naman, baka siguro work became too much na rin tapos magulo pa sistema nila, kaya ganiyan.

More infectious? If this affects 'yong number of cases natin. I won't be surprised if mag-revert tayo to ECQ.

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I guess you don't have to worry anymore. It was just announced recently, na by August 19 NCR, and some other areas will be place under GCQ.
Sources: https://www.facebook.com/116724526976/posts/10159157112931977/
                https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/751743/ncr-bulacan-cavite-laguna-rizal-back-to-gcq-says-duterte/story/

I am residing in Manila and most of the news indicates a possible downgrade from MECQ but in a 'stricter' GCQ. Pero, may mga researchers na nagsasabing kung hanggang August 18 lamang ang MECQ, maaaring umangat sa 230,000 ang cases sa ating bansa.


we may look at this news: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/751614/metro-manila-mayors-want-stricter-gcq-says-mmda-exec/story/

With the recent increase sa recoveries kahit medyo kaduda duda, malamang ay hindi na mag extend ang MECQ since nag bigay naman na sila ng date from August 4 - 18 dala na din nung sinabi mo, kinukulang ang budget para suportahan ang bansa kung magpapatuloy pa ang MECQ.

Itong 40k recoveries ay parang nung kagaya lang din dati kung saan nag recover din sila ng 38k+ sa loob ng isang araw. Which I think na itong time-based recoveries ay para sa mga asymptomatic and mild ang symptoms na kapag natapos na ang isolation period nila ay considered na as recovered.


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Aside dyan, meron ding recent news about sa new mutation ng virus dito sa Pilipinas



Hindi ba mas nakakabahala yung ganito dahil mas infectious ito at mas mataas ang chance na makahawa sa iba. Although sa Q.C. nila nakita ito mula sa random selected positive samples, may chance pa rin na kumakalat na ito sa ibang part ng Pilipinas na pwedeng isa sa reason bakit tumataas ang daily cases natin. Ano sa tingin nyo mga kabayan?

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