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Topic: MemoryDealers.com founder Roger Ver abuses admin access at Blockchain.info - page 2. (Read 28752 times)

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SERIOUS UPDATE:[/size]

He got his money back after all this happened, after admiting it was his fault, and after i had no serious reason to give them back to him. NOW he sends me a pm telling me that:

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Sorry for the slow reply.

Please post in these two threads:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/summary-of-the-events-last-night-and-an-apology-131678
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/memorydealerscom-founder-roger-ver-abuses-admin-access-at-blockchaininfo-131608

Something along the lines of

I publicly apologize for lying to Roger Ver of MemoryDealers and Bitcoinstore and for denying that I even had his money.
In fact,  I did have it,  and have now returned it.
What I did was wrong, and I'm sorry for the trouble that I have caused for everyone.
I will work to be a more honest person in the future,

Nethead  (Your real name here if you wish)

Once you post that,  I will gladly remove the rest of your information from the forum.

My reply:

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You arent going to ask for more to remove what you shouldnt have ever posted right? Are you?
Havent seen if you did removed the private info, and messaged members who have quoted that info in their posts to do so, but you have to.

If you keep asking me to do what you say your messages will go to the mods. Who do you think you are to tell me what to write? I did nothing wrong, my hands are clear AND you got FULL of what you sent me by your mistake.

So go on, its your turn now to contact mods to remove any info from the locked thread (they told so) and some members on the unlocked one to remove my info from quote in their posts, this is your responsibility

(i have just waken, so i will not be around for sme hours, i will come back later)

And his final reply here:

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You are the one who lied, tried to steal from me,  and caused all the trouble.
If you continue to refuse to own up to it,  I will put your information back online for the trouble maker and liar that you are.

It is up to you,

Roger



Is this real world? What the fuck did i did to deserve this fucking thing, even after paying him back, which i did because i wanted to (ok, also wanted my info to be removed)
NOW he threatens to put it back? REALLY?

If one has to apologize for anything, is a thing that he will do alone, noone has to tell him to do so (to promote others bussiness)
After all you have to recover my reputation, not me yours.
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Lol funny how someone who flaunts and brags his mouth about being  Morally corrupt calls people who bring thieves to justice insane L oL. YOU cant make this uupp!! LlOoLl. Do you get it?? LoL..
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How hypocritical...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/charliecontent-the-shill-122364

I feel sympathy for those who have lost coins. (...) Still, I feel sorry for them and I'd hate to think that anyone lost anything they couldn't afford to lose. (...) You took what I said seriously and I thought it was a patently ridiculous piece of comic theatre. Hopefully no one else did, but I suppose I should be more careful, and I will in future. I've never written anything on these forums with a desire to make someone miserable.
cool read mjummy..  

ok so i guess the gloves can come off a bit then..

Personally i'd vote to have someone baned of the forum with a record like that.. I think thats absolutely the right thing to do.. Id be cool for similar  people with this viewpoint to come to congregation to get this achieved..I think this guy is a slimey cancer that needs to be cut out of the bitcoin community.
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I'm probably one of the few people here who has never used any encryption software.

That's nothing to be proud of.
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I want to thank Charlie"axe to grind"Content for trying to spread FUD because otherwise I probably wouldn't have ordered from bitcoinstore.com

Haha "FUD". Hey, I'm glad you got a good deal man.
why would YOU want to encrypt files so they became totally undetectable Charlie? What kind of person would go to Such great Lengths? G I wonder.

I have no idea what you are talking about. It's truly bizarre.

I'm probably one of the few people here who has never used any encryption software.
legendary
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Oooh, interesting.  I would say that the law does indeed apply here then!

Does it? This was a dispute between somebody living in Japan(?) and somebody living in Greece.

There are also the problems that (a) no property was involved; (b) as bitcoins cannot be possessed, nothing was stolen; and (c) we only have one individual's word (revised multiple times) that the transaction was mistaken in the first place. Nothing has been proven.

My recommendation? Return the 4.xxx BTC, less a 4.xxx BTC storage and handling fee. The trouble they've put you through by erroneously sending you those couple of bitcoins, and the unwarranted damage to your reputation, must be worth at least that much.
(a) and (b) I completely disagree with.  Maybe from a technical standpoint, bitcoins cannot be possessed and are not considered property, but they would be valueless if that was the truth in reality.
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Haha, I love this guy.

Hey Croppo, maybe you should spend less time chasing me around these forums and more time with your wife....oh, that's right. She's a fictional character you made up. Sorry, never mind. Carry on.
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How hypocritical...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/charliecontent-the-shill-122364

I feel sympathy for those who have lost coins. (...) Still, I feel sorry for them and I'd hate to think that anyone lost anything they couldn't afford to lose. (...) You took what I said seriously and I thought it was a patently ridiculous piece of comic theatre. Hopefully no one else did, but I suppose I should be more careful, and I will in future. I've never written anything on these forums with a desire to make someone miserable.
legendary
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Oooh, interesting.  I would say that the law does indeed apply here then!

Does it? This was a dispute between somebody living in Japan(?) and somebody living in Greece.

I believe that it cannot be applied (it was me the Greece one), he got me by his own way thou

Meh, you did what was right in the end, even though you didn't actually have to (no one could force you rather), so that's a plus.
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Oooh, interesting.  I would say that the law does indeed apply here then!

Does it? This was a dispute between somebody living in Japan(?) and somebody living in Greece.

There are also the problems that (a) no property was involved; (b) as bitcoins cannot be possessed, nothing was stolen; and (c) we only have one individual's word (revised multiple times) that the transaction was mistaken in the first place. Nothing has been proven.

My recommendation? Return the 4.xxx BTC, less a 4.xxx BTC storage and handling fee. The trouble they've put you through by erroneously sending you those couple of bitcoins, and the unwarranted damage to your reputation, must be worth at least that much.
Read thread, he has already got his btc
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Activity: 322
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Oooh, interesting.  I would say that the law does indeed apply here then!

Does it? This was a dispute between somebody living in Japan(?) and somebody living in Greece.

I believe that it cannot be applied (it was me the Greece one), he got me by his own way thou
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Oooh, interesting.  I would say that the law does indeed apply here then!

Does it? This was a dispute between somebody living in Japan(?) and somebody living in Greece.

There are also the problems that (a) no property was involved; (b) as bitcoins cannot be possessed, nothing was stolen; and (c) we only have one individual's word (revised multiple times) that the transaction was mistaken in the first place. Nothing has been proven.

My recommendation? Return the 4.xxx BTC, less a 4.xxx BTC storage and handling fee. The trouble they've put you through by erroneously sending you those couple of bitcoins, and the unwarranted damage to your reputation, must be worth at least that much.
legendary
Activity: 1680
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Oooh, interesting.  I would say that the law does indeed apply here then!

Does it? This was a dispute between somebody living in Japan(?) and somebody living in Greece.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
Like i I said, when you accuse somebody of something, it is okay, but when somebody accuses you of the same things you accuse somebody else of, its it's, "how do you know.? Yyou never met me." This asinine kind of reasoning is just too silly to even go into. No doubt many people can see it, except CHharlie cContent himself. . But However, you know this double standard he shows asserts my earlier statement: He would have done the EXACT same thing, if he'd  been in that position. . The guy is SUpPErR Hypocritical. .. And, no doubt, very immature and amateuristic. ARren't'ja cCharley XD

And now, he tries to win the argument by throwing it over my english mishaps.. lol.

You're both dumb.
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I want to thank Charlie"axe to grind"Content for trying to spread FUD because otherwise I probably wouldn't have ordered from bitcoinstore.com

Haha "FUD". Hey, I'm glad you got a good deal man.
why would YOU want to encrypt files so they became totally undetectable Charlie? What kind of person would go to Such great Lengths? G I wonder.
legendary
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I think we're beyond laws here - I don't think anyone is arguing that any laws would apply here.  It's more of an argument of ethics and morality.

I actually believe laws do apply, and to the extent they can't be applied, it's only because a) the person keeping the bitcoins is not in the US, b) it's not practical to pursue a claim of that nature for $50, and c) the legal system has a scarce understanding of bitcoins.

In United States v. HELMS No. 96-1167 Crim. App. No. 31250 the appeals court issued this opinion:

"The mistaken delivery of property to an individual who realizes the mistake and simultaneously forms the intent to steal the property at the moment of receipt constitutes larceny at common law. W. LaFave & A. Scott, 2 Substantive Criminal Law § 8.2(g) at 342-43 (1986). Furthermore, where the individual does not realize the mistake at the time of receipt but realizes it later and then forms the requisite intent, there is a larceny as well." http://www.armfor.uscourts.gov/opinions/1996Term/96-1167.htm

This of course assumes Bitcoins are recognized as property and that submission of a transaction to the block chain to be recognized as equivalent to "sending" them, concepts which I am sure will eventually be argued over and then found to be as I've defined them.
Oooh, interesting.  I would say that the law does indeed apply here then!
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Actualy come to think of it when an opponent has nothing of substance to think  or say in a " argument" he ALWAYS attacts the spelling or english. or what ever language. . it's just weak. 
 guess that makes me the winner  yYyee e a aa h h .

The reason that I drew attention to your (lack of) communication skills is because you are incoherent. I couldn't even understand your point, and to be honest I still can't. There's not much point in a debate when the other person writes so poorly that you don't even know what they are trying to say.

But, if you need to be the winner Rob, congratulations, you're the winner! Smiley

The sweet taste of victory, huh? I'm glad I could help you out with that, and I wish you and your family all the best this Christmas.
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Actualy come to think of it when an opponent has nothing of substance to think  or say in a " argument" he ALWAYS attacts the spelling or english. or what ever language. . it's just weak. 
 guess that makes me the winner  yYyee e a aa h h .

I have a hard time following Rob's posts most of the time, but I really enjoyed this one. 

 yYyee e a aa h h !

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Actualy come to think of it when an opponent has nothing of substance to think  or say in a " argument" he ALWAYS attacts the spelling or english. or what ever language. . it's just weak. 
 guess that makes me the winner  yYyee e a aa h h .
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oh but it is okay to make an accusation of someone YOU HAVE  never met. What an Idiot you are .. ... .. wauw.

This guy is really dumb.. ..

You didn't do too well at school did you? Maybe formal education just isn't for you. Have you considered picking up a book to help you out? I think this one could help you express yourself in a more coherent way, and also help you understand others. I really think it would make your life a little easier, and then you wouldn't have to get frustrated and angry like this.



All the best Rob! Good luck! Smiley

Charlie

 Like i said when you accuse somebody of something it is okay but when somebody accuses you of the same things you accuse somebody else of its " how do you know.  you never met me" This asinine kind of reasoning is just too silly to even go into No doubt many people can see it except CHarlie content himself. . But you know this double standard he shows asserts my earlier statement: He would have done the EXACT same thing if he'd  been in that position. . The guy is SUpEr Hypocritical .. And no doubt very immature and amateuristic  ARntja charley XD

And now he tries to win the argument by throwing it over my english mishaps.. lol.

Here's one for you charlie. >
cause i could do this for daa  y s ..   lo l..
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