Topic: ★★★ MEMs LIST of GAMBLING SITES ★★★ - page 31. (Read 135037 times)

Quote from: dooglus on May 23, 2013, 08:47:35 PM

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

No but it does "ever so slightly" increase the effort required to pull a con. A forum post is 2 minutes of effort at the best made at no cost to the operator.
Those that couldnt see Pirate coming despite me and everyone warning them were greedy fools thatw were bound to loose their bitcoin to one con artist or another.

Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.

Where's the fine print? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-dabs-lotto-number-1-winner-congratulations-to-1myjkap-202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back. In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back:

Quote from: Zaih on May 23, 2013, 08:51:59 PM

About Dabs' Raffle:

[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.

Jesus titty fucking christ, nice catch Dooglus.

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on May 23, 2013, 03:55:18 PM

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.

It also inherently shows that the owner has dedicated more time to the project. If a gambling operation has a nice website which has obviously taken a lot of time to set up, they will be less likely to disregard that effort/time by 'running off' with money.

Time to post a thread on here: 20 mins? Sometimes more if you went into deeper detail like Dab did.
Time to make a nicely designed website: Hours

Obviously some websites can take small amounts of time/effort, but it's pretty obvious when it's not that case.

Thats it Zaih, its "Proof of Work", while the difficulty is set low its better than nothing

Thanks, very nice analogy as well Cheesy

Our website definitely is "Proof of Work" Tongue

, its sucks i I know but there is no question plenty of effort is spent on it

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Quote from: dooglus on May 23, 2013, 08:47:35 PM

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

No but it does "ever so slightly" increase the effort required to pull a con. A forum post is 2 minutes of effort at the best made at no cost to the operator.
Those that couldnt see Pirate coming despite me and everyone warning them were greedy fools thatw were bound to loose their bitcoin to one con artist or another.

Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.

Where's the fine print? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-dabs-lotto-number-1-winner-congratulations-to-1myjkap-202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back. In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back:

Quote from: Zaih on May 23, 2013, 08:51:59 PM

About Dabs' Raffle:

[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.

Jesus titty fucking christ, nice catch Dooglus.

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on May 23, 2013, 03:55:18 PM

Quote from: dooglus on May 23, 2013, 08:47:35 PM

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.

It also inherently shows that the owner has dedicated more time to the project. If a gambling operation has a nice website which has obviously taken a lot of time to set up, they will be less likely to disregard that effort/time by 'running off' with money.

Time to post a thread on here: 20 mins? Sometimes more if you went into deeper detail like Dab did.
Time to make a nicely designed website: Hours

Obviously some websites can take small amounts of time/effort, but it's pretty obvious when it's not that case.

Thats it Zaih, its "Proof of Work", while the difficulty is set low its better than nothing

Thanks, very nice analogy as well Cheesy

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Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.

Where's the fine print? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-dabs-lotto-number-1-winner-congratulations-to-1myjkap-202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back. In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back:

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on May 23, 2013, 03:55:18 PM

About Dabs' Raffle:

[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.

Hi dooglus,

Those were the rules for Number 1. It's now Number 2. Maybe I should stick to one thread in the future. I'm locking the first one. Sorry about the confusion.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/000-low-hash-lotto-number-29-by-dabs-provably-fair-weekly-draws-212855 is the new thread.

Yes. I should just stick to one thread and update OP to make readers read the latest version. I'm guessing a few more rule changes will happen in the next couple of games, due to either player requests or "fixes" to make it as provably fair as possible.

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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.

It also inherently shows that the owner has dedicated more time to the project. If a gambling operation has a nice website which has obviously taken a lot of time to set up, they will be less likely to disregard that effort/time by 'running off' with money.

Time to post a thread on here: 20 mins? Sometimes more if you went into deeper detail like Dab did.
Time to make a nicely designed website: Hours

Obviously some websites can take small amounts of time/effort, but it's pretty obvious when it's not that case.

dooglus

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Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.

Where's the fine print? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-dabs-lotto-number-1-winner-congratulations-to-1myjkap-202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back. In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back:

About Dabs' Raffle:

[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.

Matthew N. Wright

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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.

dooglus

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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website. All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses. A forum thread could work for that. I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all. Pirate had a website. So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 23, 2013, 03:59:59 AM

Code:

Site Name: Dabs Lotto Number 2
URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855
Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855
Player vs Player (yes/no): Yes
Provably Fair (yes/no): Yes
Games:
Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.
Admin Email:
Admin Profile: Dabs
Min Cash In: 0.01
Min Cash Out: 0.01
Min Bet: 0.01
Max Bet: 1000.00
Notes: Afterlife Payment Guaranteed = Get the Prize Even if I'm Dead

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Does the thread change every time for each new draw ? Its going to be a pain for me to keep changing your URL Tongue

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Probably should include this for US visitors: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshidice-betting-addresses-list-play-from-the-bitcoin-network-208112

Cant do tables ? Tongue

No, I wont be helping US players circumvent a SDICE's own policy or the law.
They can google it themselves

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Probably should include this for US visitors: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshidice-betting-addresses-list-play-from-the-bitcoin-network-208112

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Quote from: dooglus on May 22, 2013, 03:54:49 PM

Code:

Site Name: Dabs Lotto Number 2
URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855
Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855
Player vs Player (yes/no): Yes
Provably Fair (yes/no): Yes
Games:
Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.
Admin Email:
Admin Profile: Dabs
Min Cash In: 0.01
Min Cash Out: 0.01
Min Bet: 0.01
Max Bet: 1000.00
Notes: Afterlife Payment Guaranteed = Get the Prize Even if I'm Dead

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

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tweaked script, now properly handles N/A in min cash in/out

Dabs (and other new sites), can you fill in the below please.

Code:

Site Name:
URL:
Thread:
Player vs Player (yes/no):
Provably Fair (yes/no):
Games:
Edge%:
Admin Email:
Admin Profile:
Min Cash In:
Min Cash Out:
Min Bet:
Max Bet:
Notes:

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Dabs

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Hi,

My game has been indirectly endorsed by a trusted community member as provably fair. Also, I am the only private individual (that is not a corporation or some other entity) that offers an afterlife payment guarantee. This means, the winner gets paid even if I get hit by a bus or a train or otherwise am incapacitated or dead.

But I don't have a website yet.

Dabs

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Thanks Dooglus, for sites like these (instant blockchain betting) I like to set their min bet as the min cash in/out.

Ah. Just after editing the cash-in/out fields last night the power went out here, so I didn't know if my edits were saved or not. I checked again this morning and they were back at min/bet bet, so I thought they hadn't been saved, and made the changes again. Doesn't it make sense to differentiate between games where you can have an account and games where you can't?

Just added http://bitbattle.me/

I sorted the spreadsheet into alphabetical order, so it's easier to find the games.

yes It does make sense.

There seems to be 3 types of games:
* blockchain only - SDice
* Account System (ie seals)
* Address/Hash based Account System, SatoshiCircle, BitcoinGamer, BitcoinDarts.

Maybe I can use the blockchain.info icon to indicate its a blockchain game, still thinking about it

Thanks for tidying up the spreadsheet (headers, A-Z etc), helps me as well.

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Thanks Dooglus, for sites like these (instant blockchain betting) I like to set their min bet as the min cash in/out.

Ah. Just after editing the cash-in/out fields last night the power went out here, so I didn't know if my edits were saved or not. I checked again this morning and they were back at min/bet bet, so I thought they hadn't been saved, and made the changes again. Doesn't it make sense to differentiate between games where you can have an account and games where you can't?