Topic: Merit Farming - page 3. (Read 1194 times)

I don't get how you can reject merit ?

Here's my opinion: in exchanges of A->B, the one that should be tagged is A, not B.

Obviously, when you have A<->B both users are tagged but this is not the case here. If you start tagging users because they have received lots of merit from one individual, that opens up doors for scammers/butthurts to spam-send merit to someone that isn't abusing the system for a false conviction. After all, like The Void, you can't reject gifts. bonus points if you get that reference

The tag on asche should be reconsidered. Precedence holds great power which is why I carefully tag merit abusers.

many blablabla as always... you french guys should tell me before post !

my trust to Vod explain the true :

Vod : You don't speak french, and oscar2000 don't really speak english, he doesn't deserve your red trust, he don't care with merit and were playing with it, nothing else.

Take a look at his post, they are long and constructive (I don't always agree with him but that's not the point)

"Asked to remove trust in exchange for 79 merits and a promise he had learned his lesson about abusing merit... "
This pm show he didn't understand how merit works, nothing else !

Its abuse of the system as well and hence it is tagged if found and proven guilty.

Why do you consider your account so precious? Having an account here does not make you eligible for anything in general - what you apply for is a different issue. Having an account and having economic thoughts about the account shows your willingness to use the account solely for spamming your signature and not joining the discussions. If you do both properly then it wont be an issue.

I like your style mate. But truely speaking we need some sort of regulation on the merit system now.

I understand that they just want to rank up their positions, however it is unfair for those people who really spend their time for creating such quality post and not regularly noticed their post. For a Jr. Member like me, it is not easy to find some bounties that open for a Jr. Member position and majority of the bounties are now open for member to legendary, it sucks to know that there is someone who cheat in the merit system. I believe, karma is good. 

Thank you, that's a good catch.

There is also an active  thread for reporting a merit abuse, some DT members actually follow that thread. Technically, sale is also an abuse of merit system.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-suspected-users-that-are-abusing-merit-30-2896910


I support that. You can't buy an ability to write texts and produce valuable ideas. And It won't be a problem to catch and ban someone, who's merit will be in question due to some indecent behavior.

Merit buying is just stupid, why would anyone risk his account at a cost of getting red trusted or even banned? I can see only one reason to risk your hard earned cash and precious (if Full Member and above) account. The seller should write you a cool article, which would be very useful for the community. Then nobody will question your merits, assuming it is not a plagiarism (ouch). Oh, I just created a new job, a merit copywriter.

What a waste, It feels like he doesn't care about his profile as a legendary, I don't know why do people are so foolish just to earn some more, risking their main profiles just like that. URRGHHHH~ People like this should be banned here, so they will know the worth of having a higher rank profile if they happen to create a new one again.

Good decision. obvious cases where more than 30-50 merits are involved really deserve red tag, and thank you for spending your time.

I actually came here first to explain what happened and tell the people on this thread I was sorry for being part of this.
I was taught to accept punishments I deserve, and it looks like I deserve this one, even if I wasn't the one pushing the buttons.
Thank you anyway & have a good evening.

I am done here buddy. If you think that can help you then do it if you want. Make sure you record the date/time as well. Good luck.

For starters I could provide some screenshots to you of some pm between each other, that are several days/weeks old. Maybe this can help you believe he isn't my alt.
Also if he wanted an alt I bet he would have created one way before.
Ultimately an admin can look into it. As far as I know we don't live in the same region, so this would be easy to spot based on ip.

Hahaha they are proud of saying they rank up and they don't know that it gives reason to Higher ups to investigate their account.
well cheaters has to be mark for their wrong doing.

Seems like oscar2000 did it (risked the account) even though s/he had a legendary account. You seems very innocent (!) however can we ignore that oscar2000 and asche are not ALTs to each others? The account holder thought why not send these sMerits to asche and rank it up (just a wild guess).

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Update:
There are a lot of people here to give you advice but I would like to give you a suggestion. It's up to you to take it or leave it...
Forget what happened, from next time be very careful not to repeat this again and read the top stickies on the Meta board especially merit related topics since you are saying that you are new member (!) to the forum.

Well you are correct, cheaters will do it this way, small communities will also.

I am fairly certain some merit I gave to emile12 or DonScutzi may have come around somehow, because we are all active in the french section, or are talking on eachothers threads. Not everything is fraud.
And as you state it, oscar will not be at any circle ending, so why take the risk? What is the advantage? Loosing the credibility of his very precious Legendary account? I just don't get it, I mean, I would never do it if I had a legendary acc, that's for sure.

And again, I know it is vain to claim innocence here, please stop repeating that you are convinced of my guilt, I get that, so I am not trying to change your mind. I have said what I had to say, and I will try not to react to any reaction that will make me sad/angry/nervous However if you have any question or advice, I will read/answer.

With due respect, it seems like I need to add some of these on my [Parody] Merit translation topic


It sounds like you are talking about Trust system.

Do you guys even read this?

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Relate this... it's gonna make sense
In this case since oscar2000 is already a Legendary, you may not find the circle ending at X again (Just saying).

Why would I?
He told me he would send me merits, I can assure you there is no arrangement, but I do know I can't prove that.
I didn't tell him to stop since I wasn't aware the situation would be so tense, like I said, I am a newcomer, and you can easily see by my post history I don't drop by meta too often.

As I also said, I never said I don't deserve the tagging.

I just believe I should make an appearance here and tell my side of the story. I know there is no point in arguing since there is no way to prove what I am saying.

And to be fair, I have heard how cheap you can buy a Full Member account, so if these numbers are correct, I don't think these merits are worth so much that someone would take this kind of risk knowingly for that.


Just saying I would probably also give some merits to a friend of mine, even if it wasn't on a post that is "perfect".

I just looked at your merit history, and I find this claim to be laughable.  You've been well-tagged, IMO.  He gave you merits for every consecutive post in that thread, and those posts absolutely did not deserve merit.  There is no doubt in my mind that there was some sort of arrangement beforehand--don't know what it was, but it's either you bought those merits or that's your alt account.  Don't know, don't care.  If I were you, I'd be a bit pissed off at oscar2000 but you don't seem to be.
I'm failing to see how this is relevant to the merit you received and the trust you got from Vod.
That's a bit of a contradiction right there.  You're coming off as extremely disingenuous.  You said at first that he might have sent you the merits because he likes you, and now you're saying he told you beforehand.  Well, did this individual give you a reason why he'd be sending you all those merits?

Ladies and Gentlemen, good evening,

I am coming here as advised by Vod after he sent me Neg Trust.
To make it clear from the beginning, I am not here to whine or to beg for anyone to remove the red trust, I merely hope I can tell you more about the situation.

First thing of all, I am new around here, first account ever on the forum even though I have been mining Litecoin since 2013.

About the present matter:

Yes I received many merits from oscar, and maybe he will come around this thread too.
For your information I didn't do anything for these merits, I believe oscar liked me somehow and wanted to do me a favor. Looks like it is going to be quite the opposite.
I regret how this happened, and I believe other people would deserve them more than I do, but I also believe this merit system is deeply unfair, but this is not the place to talk about this. However I think it should be taken into consideration when judging members receiving merit.

The issue being it is not possible to refuse any merit you receive. Also, why can't a member use his merits the way he wants, as long as he doesn't sell them, or gets any benefit for it?

I am spending a lot of time on these forums, discovering new projects, translating the one I can, and investing in others. I have appreciated my time here so far, and I am trying to do my part, mostly by reporting every bad behavior I spot on the french section, which we are trying to get cleaned up for ages, AND giving my smerit to posts/people who deserve it. (if someone influent steps by, please get us some attention for more moderation).

Bottom line is, if my best friend came to this forum and needed 10 merit to get to member, I would probably give them to him, because I know he is a great guy and will benefit the forum.

I'd be happy to hear your advices on how to handle myself in my present situation, which I can't change anymore.

Best regards

Edit : DdmrDdmr, just checked your post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34933172, and I have to say, that is some amazing research. I hope this will also be used to make people rank up when they deserve it in the future

This case has been on the radar for some time. I reported the case:

* Back in March to the "Suspected users that are abusing merit 3.0" thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32817919)

* Again it cropped up a couple of weeks ago when I checked which users were on their way to ranking up (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34933172)
-> * asche -> Weird: Nearly all Merit comes from Oscar2000 in ANN threads. -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/asche-1580039).

I didn't see any action taken (until today), so I gave up on the case. Finally Karma caugh up.