Topic: Merit Farming - page 2. (Read 1197 times)

Nobody is going to use enough merits to make a difference, unless you do something to really annoy them of course. In that case, it would be more productive to use the trust system.

I like your irony.

In a theoretical way your point is still valid though.

Hello,

Maybe we  can stay on topic here?

You can criticize the way bounties are working, but I doubt very hard that this is relevant here.

Even though you might be right, some projects aren't read by anyone, but others are used a lot, at least to gather information.

The fact nobody is posting is actually usefull to some since this avoids all the shitposts which only goal is to "up" the topic and get attention. Since you don't do that as a translator you just have the valid information left.

Not everyone has the chance to translate the Ethereum ICO and get the corresponding attention.

No you're not. 30 and something posts lol ? Nice gimmick !
I don't know who you are but I'll find out and when I do we'll talk again... probably here in this very same topic.
You clearly have an agenda here.

You can try to drag me (us) into this, you'll fail.
Everything we've done (getting rid of fake translators) was done in the open... and approved by DTs :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39190052

So I'd say you're either one of those fake translators or one that profits from what we did and wants to get rid of the rest of the competition.

With all due respect, I suggest the mods have a closer look at your account... they'll spot a real cheater there.

Anyway, nice try. I like how you tried to make this a thread about something completely different from what it was at first.
Nobody cares about your biased opinion, maybe we would if you posted with your real account.

this is a big disaster for people who get a gift in a bad way. bad ways that will affect his account.
can be a lesson for all of us, to be careful.

Yes, it is one of my work. Anything to do with the subject ?

Well, that's good.

Take a look at our altcoin section, I saw many names in there. And we are the first one to ask to separate [altcoin discussion] and [ANN thread].

Back to the topic after all. You think they deserve redtrust, so just make your point. No one said you couldn't.

Bye.

example of what you call translation
one month thread with 4 replies of the same Shitcointalk and 64 view , which mean nobody has visited thread beside Shitcointalk  .

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39482284


im not a translator and dont try to attract me to your dirty game.


this french section is your playground all four, play there as you want
but to try to influence on all the forum to exonerate a merit farmer, and to encourage this kind of practice, then, allow me to intervene and say halte.

Be assured that I am not trying to burn anyone. That would be a pretty sad goal. Read my post again and you will see that I even agree with Oscar's redtrust.

I also agree that french section is a huge mess. Sadly, yes. But if you are being honest, and if you really read it, you should also know that the same John is trying his best to make it better. Something that, if I am being honest as well, I can't say about you after reading at your post history. You support the french section or you don't, whatever. But if you do, don't bite the hand that feeds you. 

It is also a nice quotation you wrote there, even though I am not sure why you posted it here. And wearing a signature makes it a bit ironical.
What is also unclear is the purpose of your post in the first place. Have you been redtagged for one of those poor translations we tagged last week ? It was all well deserved by the way, so if you are trying to defend cheaters who barely speaks french but try to do some translation work, you will have some hard time (for those who woudn't know about that, 10 cheaters accounts were heavily redtagged a few days back because of their poor quality work. It can be found HERE).   

Come on, don't be ashamed, tell us what it is all about ?

I do not see the utility of posting in a dead forum section where you and your 4 boyfriend spam all day long with ANN that have no interaction beside your own replies .

have a little conscience and objectivity because



when I posted in this thread I was well aware that the 4 friends will try to burn me alive and I know what you are capable of

Well, that is unexpected ! And it's coming from one of the biggest member in the french section looking at his latest posts, or even all his post should I say. So I am not even sure how you have been offended because you never posted once in the french sub-forum! Unless of course if one other account of yours has been red tagged by one of us...    (A few very bad translators were "redtrusted" lately, out of respect to everyone)

Just one more thing, I didn't see any kind of threats coming from John. He does redtrust easily when he has a good reason, or he doesn't without good reasons.

écoute, tu te trompes, pense ça de moi / end.

oups je mattais un film et j'ai pensé à toi : end pour toi, j’espère que tu l'as compris.

merci talk ;)

I am a reader of the french section of the forum and my conscience obliges me to give my opinion on an absurd situation that johnuser and some 4 members try to make reign on the french forum:

johnuser tries to make caid or warlord in this section with sordid and despicable methods, he threatens certain members to give them collective redtrust with the help of his band and his affiliate, and promised to other remove their redtrust just acquired as the case of ashe,

here he threat the people who do not come to give him a hand in his little war:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39538917





another time I say that this person is a mental patient who tries to become the king of the French forum in every way possible and imaginary , sometimes with the power of collective redtrust that he has on the other hand by putting pressure on other members to express the ideas he wants.


Taking the case of Ashe, for example, there is not the slightest doubt that he used the merit farming, but he promised to take away his redness with all the means and pressure he has.


I found myself out of me seeing this sordid act of this person and his little band in this French section already dead and not active section of forum bitcointalk :



affiliated members to johnuser and driven by johnuser: Shitcointalk, ashe,

kenzawak
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kenzawak-1082600

the wife of kenzawak Mister k:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mister-k-1379635

ps: ashe is a 26 years old woman

John, you just raised a month old topic looking for trouble. It's only fair that you get some ! hahaha

I just want to say a few words about the members discussed in here:

> Oscar: I know you disagree John, but to me he deserves his redtrust. Even if he didn't care, it is a big disrespect to those who try to get some in a legit way. I mean, people almost kill each other for a couple of merits! He doesn't do bounty anyway. Plus he is a respected member in our section with some very interesting contributions sometimes, so I am sure he will make it through.

> Asche: From what I have seen, Asche is a great member of the french community, with many helpful contributions. She also makes high level translations. I am not here to debate the fact that she deserves or doesn't deserve a red trust, just to say that she is a legit member, and there aren't that many of them sadly. Please don't push them away !

> Becassine: I don't know her much, but she made some of the most useful threads in our section. The last I have in mind was about computer security. She also just stated that with all the people getting robbed everyday, it would be nice to have a small sub-forum to discuss about this matter, or at least to pin the topic. But as she also noticed, it is an utopia considering that we don't have any moderator at all !

> Lastly John: I really hope no one is considering blaming him here ! he is the closest thing to a moderator that we have, and he is the main reason french section is still alive. Not to mention all his work looking for cheaters and scammers (just look at all the red trust he has sent). Undoubtedly trustworthy if you'd asked me.

As you can notice, I didn't speak much about merit yet. So you can have an opinion about those members and not focusing on the "trading merit" part. I also believe most of the people in the french section (and maybe on the whole forum as well) gave up already trying to rank up. Still, I do like this system because it reduced a bit the amount of spams and shitposts around.

Notice: I have got 25 merits myself from a legendary at the very beginning of the system in exchange for a favor. I already turned myself in here. Plus I don't do signature's campaign anyway, the biggest sources of spam making this forum barely readable.

Is there somewhere where I can ask to disable the possibility to receive merit ? As an active french member, I'm afraid by this "serial merit giver" who prowl in our local board. He has the power to destroy our accounts reputation only with one click !

More seriously, I think your investigations were really too limited in the case of asche. oscar2000 litterally didn't care about the value of his account, he started to make campaigns recently, despite he's been a legendary as long as I can remember.
Just imagine for a second that he could be a member who wanted to make the account of someone who uses it for campaigns unusable (asche), for some reasons. Then the victim would have been condamned twice.


Through your actions, you are just offering the possibility for every legendary who don't care about his account to destroy the reputation of the accounts of his choice. It's a strange sense of justice.

Last.. i get 100+ merit, try something against me. ;)

no, whats incredible is that you don't understand local board. we don't care with that -also we don't have moderator anymore, we help each other.

edit : you get a red from me. come on now. and big lol "Spammer. Pointless one-liner replies. " why you guys can't shut up ?

This is incredible. 70 merits from a single person! It is a clear case of cheating. But what happened after the recipient pleaded for leniency? Was it granted?

whats wrong with you ?

now learn french or use google translate, and explain me.

I wont spend my time there, becassine answer she don't care of his trust. you want to tag her too ?

i'm tired with your merit.

last edit : you deserve a red from me, with only "idiot".

@ashe i know you are smart but this forum don't care with smart people.

only fact is important.

edit ; i didn't read the whole thread but I will do.

I appreciate your opinion on this. I have always tried to use the smerits I got with parsimony and only when they are deserved (even if I usually use them in French since we don't have any merit source around).

I'd love to show that I want to add value to the forum and can be trusted otherwise, and would really appreciate to benefit from presumption of innocence.

As TheUltraElite said, "found and proven guilty". I am not sure where the guilt starts and ends here. Yes I was aware I was getting many merits, but I didn't imagine it would be considered that damaging.



As I have stated before I just recently discovered this forum, even though I know about crypto for a long time.
Since I joined I learned to like the community and everything we can find here.
I have made my specialty in translating Anns but also some other informations for fellow frenchmen that aren't quite so good in english, and I really would like to keep doing this.

Me being tagged here actually made me discover this board. I would have used it numerous times for bad translators if I had known it's existence. I hope one day I will be considered trustworthy again and can then use this reputation forum to help detect and prevent fake translators or other abusers. (not sure I would be so harsh about people getting merit tho, that would be kinda ironic  )


And I believe I got your WoW reference