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full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 117
July 25, 2018, 09:09:55 AM
#67

I just want to ask, if someone is proven guilty of merit abuse, what will be the measures that need to be imposed on that someone?
I do not see any specific penalty/punishment regarding this.

Thank you.

He doesn't have to be proved as guilty, because they use the presumption of guiltiness instead of the usual presumption of innocence. And he will be red tagged by DT, and his account is useless for campaigns after that.




That deserves a negative feedback the post should be so good to get that amount of merits I only have 3 merits so far and surprise out of my many posts I finally get one I just content with what I could get and not cheat the system but I think I'm stuck to a junior level until a miracle happens.

For the guy who sent the merit, maybe. But for the one who received it, no ! What if you finally get almost the merit you need to become member, and finally one guy send you 50 merit for one post ?

You are red tagged and your account become useless. Even if you never asked him to send any merit.
member
Activity: 336
Merit: 42
July 25, 2018, 12:04:01 AM
#66
When I check the merit page I saw that the user has received 73 merit points from the same person...

Thank you. This is more than enough reason to leave negative trust.

I think some people have been viewing the lack of a response as an invitation to cheat even more.

I just want to ask, if someone is proven guilty of merit abuse, what will be the measures that need to be imposed on that someone?
I do not see any specific penalty/punishment regarding this.

Thank you.
copper member
Activity: 479
Merit: 11
July 24, 2018, 06:47:41 PM
#65
I don't know if something can be done, but I will report here my findings...
Already report to the moderators also.

When I saw someone claiming their rank has increased to Full Member in a bounty thread I found that strange!!
(nowadays is practically impossible to rank up)

When I check the merit page I saw that the user has received 73 merit points from the same person...

asche | https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/asche-1580039
oscar2000 | https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/oscar2000-377987

In a further analysis, Becassine also received 50 merits from oscar2000 from a normal post.

Becassine | https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/becassine-1224889


That deserves a negative feedback the post should be so good to get that amount of merits I only have 3 merits so far and surprise out of my many posts I finally get one I just content with what I could get and not cheat the system but I think I'm stuck to a junior level until a miracle happens.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1491
I forgot more than you will ever know.
July 24, 2018, 01:28:40 PM
#64
If Vod could come around and have another read I'd appreciate it.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1491
I forgot more than you will ever know.
June 12, 2018, 11:47:18 AM
#63
Vod wanted to see what members think.

Since he said that, it looks like he hasn't even looked at this thread again...
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 117
June 08, 2018, 06:47:37 AM
#62
Did you guys started tagging the merit abusers? Just to know so I can post 70+ cases

did you get school and learn to read ?

edit : asche; maybe I don't care.

I don't have your shitpost troller replies. Luckly ignore is here Adieu.




He is a bit salty, but if you had read, you would know that we are speaking of the case of the 2 guys reported at the beggining of this topic. They have not been reported by us, but by Vod. If you want to propose your list, create a new topic, and contact Vod. But I higly recommand you to read the last pages of this topic to understand what was the issue with this case, and why you should do a real investigation and think about it before reporting 70 cases you detected (I think) without thinking one second about the reason, or that the guy who received the merit points wasn't aware he will receive them.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1517
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June 07, 2018, 04:36:57 PM
#61
Did you guys started tagging the merit abusers? Just to know so I can post 70+ cases

did you get school and learn to read ?

edit : asche; maybe I don't care.

I don't have your shitpost troller replies. Luckly ignore is here Adieu.


staff
Activity: 2408
Merit: 2021
I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
June 07, 2018, 04:20:17 PM
#60
Not sure the "you're wrong" was meant for you. Thought so at first too but I believe he is adressing Vod/others, and not you John.

Yes, sorry if I wasn't clear. "You are wrong" was for Zorros and Judges Dredd Smiley
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 725
June 07, 2018, 04:14:05 PM
#59
Did you guys started tagging the merit abusers? Just to know so I can post 70+ cases

did you get school and learn to read ?

edit : asche; maybe I don't care.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1517
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June 07, 2018, 03:56:55 PM
#58
Did you guys started tagging the merit abusers? Just to know so I can post 70+ cases
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1491
I forgot more than you will ever know.
June 07, 2018, 03:51:20 PM
#57
1st you say I'm wrong

then you give same opinion.

Not sure the "you're wrong" was meant for you. Thought so at first too but I believe he is adressing Vod/others, and not you John.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 725
June 07, 2018, 03:48:54 PM
#56
1st you say I'm wrong

then you give same opinion.
staff
Activity: 2408
Merit: 2021
I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
June 07, 2018, 06:58:52 AM
#55
Thanks Johnuser to show us this topic. It always funny to see Zorros  from the forums.

Things I am about to write will not change your mind, but I must tell you that on this subject: you are wrong.
But I agree Oscar2000 gave his merits in a stupid way for a stupid reason.

But you judge from numbers, from stats.
It would have been nice to know the people and understand them before condemning them.
It would have been nice to see the history of everyone's posts.

But it's hard to understand when you don't speak the language.
You could have contacted a trusted Frenchman to get his opinion. I don't know: the French mod for example ?
Errr wait, we don't have a French mod !! 3 posts in 2018. Wow !

Instead of burning fake witches, help us move Theymos' ass on this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4423278

And kalidos, come put your balls on the French forums instead of drooling your bile here.
hero member
Activity: 1820
Merit: 775
June 07, 2018, 05:58:23 AM
#54
I am a reader of the french section of the forum and my conscience obliges me to give my opinion on an absurd situation that johnuser and some 4 members try to make reign on the french forum:

johnuser tries to make caid or warlord in this section with sordid and despicable methods, he threatens certain members to give them collective redtrust with the help of his band and his affiliate, and promised to other remove their redtrust just acquired as the case of ashe,

(...)



affiliated members
to johnuser and driven by johnuser: Shitcointalk, ashe,



You're a newbie with 35 posts at the time and we don't even know if you really read and understand french (maybe not) and you are giving an opinion about the french section ? It's a joke Huh

Some members in the french section are trying to make it clean and attractive for newbies, there are no king or affiliate members as you wrote, I read stupid things but that it's obviously the most, which is as the same time disgusting. Everyone knows all that Johnuser made to help newbies and to improve the french section.

I don't translate because I don't have time and it's not my job but I love my french language, as many others it makes me upset when I see so many bad, very bad translations, thinking that people can even be paid for that ...

Yes some french translators are really fighting against spammers, what's wrong with that ?

You're a poor little jealous shit and nobody cares about your opinion.

hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 725
June 07, 2018, 04:29:22 AM
#53
I just delete my post cause I'm tired with cheater that try to make me the bad guy, see above...

Do your job kenza, I did enough. It's your time.

thanks @missk, mister k was a bad idea ;)
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 851
June 07, 2018, 03:57:50 AM
#52
As for the topic in question, here is what we know :

-asche is not oscar. Everybody in the French community can confirm that.
-asche is smart, I don't see him "accepting" those merits without knowing of the consequences. He knew he would get caught eventually. But what can he do ? Create a thread here saying "I'm sorry, I don't deserve the merits, take them back, I hope you won't tag me for it" ? So I don't believe in the theory that he paid or even asked for the merits. You read his posts, he's not stupid... nobody is that stupid.
-oscar well... he is something else. Doesn't speak English, doesn't care much about anything including the value of his account.

Which leads me to what we do not know : everything !!!
Did Oscar try to setup asche ? Did oscar just play randomly without caring about what would happen ?
WE DON'T KNOW .

But the thing is asche is an asset to the French community.
You tag him ,we lose one of the best translators there. And he also translates in German !

The fact is oscar is not asche . The rest is pure speculation by someone... well someone who probably thinks he will get merits himself (huh Carlos ?) .
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 851
June 07, 2018, 02:53:33 AM
#51


To the mods :
I debunked rggadi as a fake translator in the French section (based on his so-called "work"). He didn't like this at all and tried to come back to me : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37998549
But all he managed to do is to look even more ridicule, so I guess he thinks he finally found a way to avenge himself.

If you ever need a quick summary of what's going on with this (even if I really don't see what it's doing in this thread), I'd be happy to provide it to you, as I'd be happy to translate all my posts in the French translators thread to you if needed.

Holy shit, I missed that. I had the Arabic board on "ignore" which is why I didn't see this in his post history.
So yeah Kalidos is probably rggadi lol.
Meeeh... enough said, the guy's a tool who got frustrated because we exposed him as an obvious Google translate user.
And no, we're not just 4 claiming his work is shit :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1254969

Anyway, back to the real matter here, sorry.
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 19
June 07, 2018, 02:32:59 AM
#50
Here we go again...

First : what does a complaint about the way French handle fake translators in the French section do on the Merit farming thread ? We don't have a real mod there, we have to do things by ourselves to debunk them, and I think we did it the good way : everything is in the open, every complaint is documented.

Second : your profile accounts for 35 posts, half of them in English, half of them in the Arabic section. What about participating a bit in the French one before complaining about what happens there ? Or maybe you participated under another username and as a "translator" ?

I am a reader of the french section of the forum and my conscience obliges me to give my opinion on an absurd situation that johnuser and some 4 members try to make reign on the french forum:

It only concerns the translation problem, it is a bit restrictive to consider this as the whole French section, don't you think ?

johnuser tries to make caid or warlord in this section with sordid and despicable methods, he threatens certain members to give them collective redtrust with the help of his band and his affiliate, and promised to other remove their redtrust just acquired as the case of ashe,

here he threat the people who do not come to give him a hand in his little war:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39538917

Quote
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3470328.new#new
je suis déçu +++

moi je risque mon red sans cesse, peut m’importe

ashe ne mérite pas son red

kenza l'espoir que tu m'as redonné est retombé net, french.. comme quoi seul yang S a osé se mouiller comme moi, sans doute pour ça ..

another time I say that this person is a mental patient who tries to become the king of the French forum in every way possible and imaginary , sometimes with the power of collective redtrust that he has on the other hand by putting pressure on other members to express the ideas he wants.

Ok, well, so now you're a psychiatrist ?  Roll Eyes
(and please can you tell me under which username you said that ? I'd be curious to know...)
John is maybe the only person that has tried to clear the French section, and to be a mod instead of the one that's reported "missing" since more than a year.
He might be a bit clumsy in his way of saying things, but I guess that if I had tried to do what he tried to do, for as long as he did it, I'd be fed-up with all that too.

I found myself out of me seeing this sordid act of this person and his little band in this French section already dead and not active section of forum bitcointalk :

affiliated members to johnuser and driven by johnuser: Shitcointalk, ashe,

kenzawak
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kenzawak-1082600

the wife of kenzawak Mister k:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mister-k-1379635

ps: ashe is a 26 years old woman

Really ? Pleaaaaaase !
I'm old enough to make my own decisions, no need of anyone for that.
Once more : I only post concerning the translation problems, I never post about anything else on the French section.

im not a translator and dont try to attract me to your dirty game.

So why don't you even give a fuck about all that Huh?
And make me lose my time by the same way.

Quote from: kalidos
this french section is your playground all four, play there as you want
but to try to influence on all the forum to exonerate a merit farmer, and to encourage this kind of practice, then, allow me to intervene and say halte.

OKKKKK... you've got quite a devious mind I might say.
And once more : a single topic concerning the French translator is not quite the same thing that "all the forum".


Once all this said...
When I read the structure of your sentences, the way you think and the fact that you implicated me (or in fact all the persons you implicate), if you add to that the fact that you have posted in the Arabic section too, I'm ready to make a wild guess : aren't you an alter for my dear friend rggadi ?



To the mods :
I debunked rggadi as a fake translator in the French section (based on his so-called "work"). He didn't like this at all and tried to come back to me : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37998549
But all he managed to do is to look even more ridicule, so I guess he thinks he finally found a way to avenge himself.

If you ever need a quick summary of what's going on with this (even if I really don't see what it's doing in this thread), I'd be happy to provide it to you, as I'd be happy to translate all my posts in the French translators thread to you if needed.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 851
June 07, 2018, 01:54:07 AM
#49
I am a reader of the french section of the forum and my conscience obliges me to give my opinion on an absurd situation that johnuser and some 4 members try to make reign on the french forum:


Wanna play ?
I'll give up to 10 merits to whoever can find out what your other alt accounts are.
My conscience obliges me too sorry.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1491
I forgot more than you will ever know.
June 07, 2018, 01:51:20 AM
#48
Nobody is going to use enough merits to make a difference, unless you do something to really annoy them of course. In that case, it would be more productive to use the trust system.

Not sure I understood what you are saying  Huh
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