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eR4
jr. member
Activity: 76
Merit: 2
----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am eR4. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qnrjqf5j2nwnu6atz09v5r3z02l95a7w0vrcgy8

IG66vK/llZNLZYihm6MDX/oxScbE1OK+z1P099PxmBLrD7XND3CxEDgWYx45SCCu/vxcfpgVapU7Z8ioB4Mn7U4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
member
Activity: 168
Merit: 11
Code:
Address: 19QpL3YidYZc8ULKYx21Z9z3y6Tf712417
Message: I am Bitcoin577 on Bitcointalk forum and today 5th October 2020 I can sign message
Signature: H4XYk/ecktX0d8+3OPF1rLP7oyKm9rkmx1OR06JGdwDwLNiw/J/WQofDcEwickV3xLDYyUstQMh30yIX+PpAMTc=
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 6089
bitcoindata.science
My doubt, regarding signing in segwit address is if this is a "bug" and will soon be corrected, or is it an abandoned feature?
It is neither a bug nor an abandoned feature. It is just that we are still working on creating a more generalized signing scheme that lets people sign with things like P2SH addresses (e.g. sign with a multisig address). There is simply no standard yet for signing with such scripts or with Segwit.

Hi, thanks for quoting that discussion. This was my first discussion here in bitcointalk, more than 2 years ago, and the problem is still not solved... i wish we had a solution for this, so we all could really stop using legacy addresses for good,.

While electrum did a nice solution, we still need a solution which is widely verified by any software.

I believe your good nature in this undertaking has been abused right from the start:

Indeed.  That is what this community does and isn't limited to merit.  If what you say is happening in this thread is true, then it is a very good example of how this forum is allowing scammers to make multiple accounts to abuse the system for their own benefit at the cost of generous members offering their time and resources to help others.  If you think people are willing to go far to earn a merit, imagine the kind of nonsense occurring to get multiple accounts into the DT network to inflate their trust ratings and punish those who stand up against them.
How about increasing the level from now on?  Cheesy

Set a requirement to use only vanity adresses with at least 4 digits. Most likely that will help to prevent *some* fraudulent practices if we add more requirements (at least x posts, at least x registration duration etc.).

That is really sad to see so many users trying to abuse this topic using newly created accounts just to spam.
I think setting a vanity address is going to be nice, however I think a minimum merit requirement would be interesting (like 2-3 merit)
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 1
----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Yuff1983. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qj0wpwgv3p92krr8ezunhe84n9v8uwg63sg7fdv
HxmChS/vdpeI09//qQyV8jPDVQNirVbyBowUbUifW/qQbZde89Nxgm6fRI+7e6dq3TudOlebCcehFz3EwD+Ks1Q=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
jr. member
Activity: 279
Merit: 2
----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am wtfguys. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qsfp8mf0s66fzak3h2t0qw5q8qvlkepfygd4p8l
IHryRanni6uex/zQ/cH5Fi009icvl/+zeJlhrJw7Q9cDPEoaqT6Qpfd67fTur6kpLBpWPMYSqqNGEl62PSiVcBQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
jr. member
Activity: 76
Merit: 4
----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Marfolone. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1AXj3AR4c9tsLXXGGjA9G314U73hkUCsbw
HwDVkeV+QxvCrK+fTXyBIaZsuiWbFtTYLiMHZ/URyTiBSUM8hdKkNQTt6ZwxKw7BHtsoGInfmvr1W7EHyjEx6tU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
copper member
Activity: 268
Merit: 7
Phreess - A Self-Appreciating Token
Hey Newbies (& Jr Members)! I want to give you the opportunity to earn some merit by using your Bitcoin client (or whatever you use). There is a great guide linked below showing you how to sign a message. If you can sign a message from your Bitcoin address with your bitcointalk username, post it here and I will send you merit. Enjoy!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-sign-a-message-990345

Example:
Quote
Address: 1BitcoinAddressGoesHere
Message: I’m OgNasty and I can sign a message.
Signature: 1BitcoinSignedMessageSignatureGoesHere


Anyone wishing to comment about potential abuse of my generosity on this thread, please read my response here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55305496

Address:
Code:
1Nqn4EfTfSTGqbcX34714MK6kxk6d93g1A

Message:
Code:
Hi im phreess from btctalk and i want to say thanks :)

Signature:
Code:
IAcOz2XF3dIEXxgqRq9CAsKDkGaWXC+4VsZWwaIM4HIkbxb/XZF0iNw9KyM3X76oLojbdgnaBYN3rgXsjNJA5mk=

Thanks, OgNasty! ^^
hero member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 775
Why is that other wallet btc address could not be verified? Isn't it connected to the bitcoin network? Or only it will be connected when wallet will be used for doing new transaction which is being broadcast to the network and node will going to accept and update it as the latest transaction for bitcoin. However, I am confused with bitcoin network and that include this one signing in message though I can sign in a message in my bitcoin wallet but it could not be verified just like what it shows in the other replies.

What could be the reason behind why electrum wallets could not be verified by other signing bitcoin verification message?
It depends on each wallet. Most of wallets use BIP 39 for their mnemonic seed but Electrum has its own code to create wallet seed (not BIP 39). The difference causes troubles when you verify signature by different wallets.

If you have ever imported other wallets that support BIP 39 into Electrum, you will see the option for BIP 39.

https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/seedphrase.html

Moreover, if a wallet does not support Segwit address type, it can not verify signature is signed from a Segwit address with another wallet.
full member
Activity: 686
Merit: 125

Why is that other wallet btc address could not be verified? Isn't it connected to the bitcoin network? Or only it will be connected when wallet will be used for doing new transaction which is being broadcast to the network and node will going to accept and update it as the latest transaction for bitcoin. However, I am confused with bitcoin network and that include this one signing in message though I can sign in a message in my bitcoin wallet but it could not be verified just like what it shows in the other replies.

What could be the reason behind why electrum wallets could not be verified by other signing bitcoin verification message?
legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 6947
Currently not much available - see my websitelink
I believe your good nature in this undertaking has been abused right from the start:

Indeed.  That is what this community does and isn't limited to merit.  If what you say is happening in this thread is true, then it is a very good example of how this forum is allowing scammers to make multiple accounts to abuse the system for their own benefit at the cost of generous members offering their time and resources to help others.  If you think people are willing to go far to earn a merit, imagine the kind of nonsense occurring to get multiple accounts into the DT network to inflate their trust ratings and punish those who stand up against them.
How about increasing the level from now on?  Cheesy

Set a requirement to use only vanity adresses with at least 4 digits. Most likely that will help to prevent *some* fraudulent practices if we add more requirements (at least x posts, at least x registration duration etc.).
legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 6947
Currently not much available - see my websitelink
Code:
Address: bc1qgmu677807vnqrxp549vvw7x050czyw9jhstkgv

Message: I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.

Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.

Signature: HxXo6XzXKjVDsYlHMVBYm5tc/KwmNfxnKLOln3noLiOqHpvgLEIpulT43NGiQwggx00Ots7ffOc2jut4P1q5UZ0=

Wouldn't verify.

Next try.
...

It didn't verify because SegWit (bech32 is native SegWit) has no standard for signing messages yet:

My doubt, regarding signing in segwit address is if this is a "bug" and will soon be corrected, or is it an abandoned feature?
It is neither a bug nor an abandoned feature. It is just that we are still working on creating a more generalized signing scheme that lets people sign with things like P2SH addresses (e.g. sign with a multisig address). There is simply no standard yet for signing with such scripts or with Segwit.


However, if it's signed from Electrum, it can be verified from Electrum but only from Electrum because Electrum is using an own function to sign / verify here.
It verifies from Electrum:



And because of that it doesn't verify from Jochen Hoenicke website:



But for better compatibility it's always recommended to sign from legacy addresses (1....).



I think I did this correctly!

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is MysteriousPackages from bitcointalk.org and today is 10/04/20
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qhydzaly3u4e38dp08v48vghjxxdhk5zn52fn8f
H2TszUg/0l7bJCpbzusH5akD++6Juf9P4t4aDob0sNaxGSbSDoKKgp+0KdGtiB8IspehKkIg/Z+27yfFjMWqVX4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Same issue here, only verifies in Electrum:


newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 2
I think I did this correctly!

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is MysteriousPackages from bitcointalk.org and today is 10/04/20
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qhydzaly3u4e38dp08v48vghjxxdhk5zn52fn8f
H2TszUg/0l7bJCpbzusH5akD++6Juf9P4t4aDob0sNaxGSbSDoKKgp+0KdGtiB8IspehKkIg/Z+27yfFjMWqVX4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 3
Code:
Address: bc1qgmu677807vnqrxp549vvw7x050czyw9jhstkgv

Message: I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.

Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.

Signature: HxXo6XzXKjVDsYlHMVBYm5tc/KwmNfxnKLOln3noLiOqHpvgLEIpulT43NGiQwggx00Ots7ffOc2jut4P1q5UZ0=

Wouldn't verify.

Next try.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.
Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1DzCzCTV9T2SnAPieK7Yt333cqNqLDYQq6
IPS68FpMBCF+KaO40HkTfOA8gW65Uzc0o7S8G0H0KFdMMR64mWy/ZhMvYd/15Su0l8vgqZnQ6FuK/XnulBrufqU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

For some reason a message signed in Electrum 4.0.3 from a address starting with the BC characters does not pass verification using the service.
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Code:
Address: bc1qgmu677807vnqrxp549vvw7x050czyw9jhstkgv

Message: I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.

Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.

Signature: HxXo6XzXKjVDsYlHMVBYm5tc/KwmNfxnKLOln3noLiOqHpvgLEIpulT43NGiQwggx00Ots7ffOc2jut4P1q5UZ0=

Wouldn't verify.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 3
Code:
Address: bc1qgmu677807vnqrxp549vvw7x050czyw9jhstkgv

Message: I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.

Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.

Signature: HxXo6XzXKjVDsYlHMVBYm5tc/KwmNfxnKLOln3noLiOqHpvgLEIpulT43NGiQwggx00Ots7ffOc2jut4P1q5UZ0=
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 24
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am AlexPr0. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1NLDMyZJQCjppkUnV9FcdihyA8MUy7qsMF
IDfoVttROUmr7jIUoW5cvwDTVpHkKbINxESg2Hza6TXoS9N5pwiLr+QcqBofPOQBWR6u2gUclsWQgqIOPSPMRpM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hope I got it right  Grin
jr. member
Activity: 148
Merit: 2
Sir i check it so done



-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I'm  kasakola i can sign a message
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1Gu6F8pBbrjUwjWs4okxUmoyF1SrcyWLS8

IJSGn8J+6tmhKYkJm7Obh+AoQ3FZTk4mwbovOZqQGbSNWcKEj17jRSkgSU5dv8kxTSBCXVkqhVTKMhWn05uFgOE=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 1
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Tenaloc50 and I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 19AKNG5fDGuA24n81eWYFFejmDBVTnYzFs

H42+pvsuCyLxzE/mBa5758ZLDZgyz3p6vi5q5JTrpc3FeZDKhu3XPQ4NDDuD7boJwUHZXtrGho4oc8Eyy78Amsg=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
full member
Activity: 965
Merit: 121
CryptoGames: Revamped Games, Multiple Coins
Those who don't have/away from pc, you can also use Coinomi to sign the message.

Btw, @op don't you think your giveaway can be abused since you are giving merits to newbie rank for simple task?

I find it a very good initiative. I'm pretty sure a lot of users never even heard of signing a messages from Bitcoin addresses. Even I didn't know about it until around 3-4 years ago, when I needed to sign a message to recover an account somewhere. I was like, wtf? Something like this back then would have saved me a lot of time =P

What might seem like a simple task for "advanced" users, isn't for newbies. Besides that, new "bitcoiners" may avoid storing coins on third party wallets/services, as they'll notice they don't have full control over their funds when trying to sign a message from some shitty service calling themselves a wallet.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 6
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I am kokilpakhi. I can sign a message.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Version: MultiBit HD (0.1.1)

Comment: https://multibit.org

Address: 12Pr9eqFS1rjsfeM3z5s6LpjfXym9DFdAe

 

IAp9TX200WlyxLQI/cfi37VNUk7y6whs1GdWVAZbz7ibNslQHoDW02NvEEZEnB8TNU+8MTUY+0wl/plnDIpamHE=

-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
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