Merit & new rank requirements - page 109.

tranthidung

legendary

Activity: 2310

Merit: 4085

Farewell o_e_l_e_o

Quote from: dkbit98 on May 26, 2018, 03:50:27 AM

So far I never received any merit Sad

So much trash posts

To improve your post quality, you should have to do the following two essential tasks simultaneously or seperately:
1) Learning and sharpening your English skills, including reading and writing skills. Reading skills will help you to read English documents, articles, topics on crypto easier and more efficiently. You can not learn anything if you are not able to understand what others wrote. Writing skills will help you to express your ideas better, help readers easier to get your ideas and avoid serious misunderstandings.
2) Spending more time to learn about crypto knowledge and basic stuffs of the forum.
You will get nothing if you join the forum without basic knowledge on crypto ecosystem as well as basic structures, functions, useful features of the forum.

For instance:
You can find and learn a lot of things by yourself if you know how to use the forum function:
[Tips] Guide for forum search
Furthermore, you should keep following topics, threads of constructive, famous users in the forum, such as Jet Cash, TMAN, The Pharmacist, iasenko, nullius, hugeblack, zentdex, mdayonliner, etc.
You can learn lots of invaluable things from them, for free.

Best regards, mate.

JayJuanGee

legendary

Activity: 3892

Merit: 11105

Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: dkbit98 on May 26, 2018, 03:50:27 AM

So far I never received any merit Sad

So much trash posts

I quickly looked at your post history, and I confirm, there seems to be a lot of trash there.

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2814

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: dkbit98 on May 26, 2018, 03:50:27 AM

So far I never received any merit Sad

So much trash posts

There is an easy solution - stop making the trash posts, and go for quality.

dkbit98

legendary

Activity: 2212

Merit: 7064

So far I never received any merit Sad

So much trash posts

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2814

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

In my International newbie post promotion thread, I'm now suggesting that I create a self-moderated thread in Serious Discussion or Ivory Tower to highlight the rare gems that are buried in the mud on the beginners board. I can't see another way for new members with quality posts to get started with merit, especially if they don't have English as their first language.

I'm also cutting back on the time I spend in the cesspits looking for posts to merit, and this will help me to find meritable posts.

TheQuin

hero member

Activity: 2576

Merit: 883

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Quote from: InvoKing on May 25, 2018, 02:20:54 PM

@TheQuin : i was going to answer him then i remembered our discussion the last time about newbies and here is what i found...

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 25, 2018, 06:59:55 PM

If the ratio of plagiarizing newbies is "most" then that would mean bots are becoming more prolific, no? Surely, AI is becoming more and more sophisticated and making it more and more difficult to sort real humans from the fakes (harder to accomplish in-person, so far).

On a completely unscientific basis, I'm thinking that 9 out 10 Newbies I encounter are bots. I probably see more of them because I always check my unread replies. These bots often just post to the thread that is on top of the board and I've commented in a lot of the stickied threads. I tend to spot them because they pick the same limited sample of posts to copy, I guess because it is the same program running.
Then there are the human plagiarists that just google the thread title and copy the first hit. They usually stand out because they are well written but not really that relevant to the discussion.

Sam San

sr. member

Activity: 630

Merit: 250

Quote from: stompix on May 21, 2018, 08:18:58 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 20, 2018, 10:11:47 AM

weekly update

weekly transactions avaiable here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11k6HnP_67t4R9k_Xp4vNImy6eCcq3JWlxT1jl1GQdeI/edit?usp=sharing

For the 1st time we have 0 transaction of 50 sMerit. Also we are going slowly to my prediction of 3.5k sMerit/week

Are we going to see February levels, soon? Or are we in a bear merit market ? Grin

Can't stop looking at that graph and thinking of the price Grin

I'm wondering about a thing, as I'm not the tech guy that is familiar with this stuff.
Since a lot of tracking is focused on the merit people get, shouldn't we look just for a moment at those that don't get any? One thing I'm curios about and I really didn't know who to ask about, can we have also a top of users active since the merit system that haven't received a single merit, ordered by the number of posts?
The hall of ~~shame~~ ~~spam~~ bounty.

And another, most users speak about increasing merit sources, incentivizing users to spend merit in order to raise the numbers of circulation merit but...are there really 5000 or 10 000 posts that deserve merit created a month?
This is starting to sound like fiat problems, what if we produce and throw around too much?

there is no precise definition of what is merit. it is the subjective factor of each participant of the forum it is giving. so for some, the number of posts it deserves more than 10000, for others less than 1000 a week. previously, there was a clear and mathematically accurate transition by ranks, now included a subjective mechanism that has not yet stopped the flow of empty posts caused by another force. the force of the money bubble that asks 15-25 posts a week not cleaned the forum from the walk-through posts, but that's the advantage of the forum that he lives and fights with the power of money and did not give up. if it is possible to introduce a rule that a week with 15-25 posts is not in activity, it is also somehow stop the influx of messages.

JayJuanGee

legendary

Activity: 3892

Merit: 11105

Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: InvoKing on May 25, 2018, 05:38:43 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 25, 2018, 04:02:41 PM

it's like we are living in a parallel universe.

Yeah JayJuanGee, most of newbies are indeed creating a "parallel universe", you can take a look on the topics here created by LoyceV and the others. Plagiarism of external articles, copy paste of old posts, shitposts...duplicated bitcointalk somehow.

If the ratio of plagiarizing newbies is "most" then that would mean bots are becoming more prolific, no? Surely, AI is becoming more and more sophisticated and making it more and more difficult to sort real humans from the fakes (harder to accomplish in-person, so far).

I had noticed one regular thread that had around 10 pages within a few days of newbies spouting out repetitive bullshit nonsense, and surely distracting from the thread topic, and likely deterring real peeps from posting. Likely this forum, and forums like this one, may also have to employ more and more bots to take on some of the work of identifying bot posts and perhaps banning those members and deleting their posts... yet probably part of the justification for the implementation of this merit system is to attempt to incentivize some of the members (including sources) to spot some of these bot posts, and perhaps, not to give merits to the bots.

Actually, there was one bot post that I recall seeing, and I was inclined to give it merit, because it was quite humorous - yet I hesitated to pull the merit sending trigger and waited for another post from the bot, which did not happen, and I did not send the clever post a merit... hahahahahaha

InvoKing

legendary

Activity: 2142

Merit: 1065

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 25, 2018, 04:02:41 PM

it's like we are living in a parallel universe.

Yeah JayJuanGee, most of newbies are indeed creating a "parallel universe", you can take a look on the topics here created by LoyceV and the others. Plagiarism of external articles, copy paste of old posts, shitposts...duplicated bitcointalk somehow.

JayJuanGee

legendary

Activity: 3892

Merit: 11105

Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: InvoKing on May 25, 2018, 02:20:54 PM

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All things considered, this system is pretty cool. It is a hassle to have to go to a separate page to give points to a post - is it possible to implement this within the thread itself?

@TheQuin : i was going to answer him then i remembered our discussion the last time about newbies and here is what i found...

Quote from: monbux on January 24, 2018, 06:08:22 PM

All things considered, this system is pretty cool. It is a hassle to have to go to a separate page to give points to a post - is it possible to implement this within the thread itself?

Must be a miraculous coincidence that two posters have the exact word choice, including punctuation and capitalizations - it's like we are living in a parallel universe. Wow!!!!! I would not have believed it, if I had not seen it with my own eyes.

InvoKing

legendary

Activity: 2142

Merit: 1065

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Quote from: ?? on ??

All things considered, this system is pretty cool. It is a hassle to have to go to a separate page to give points to a post - is it possible to implement this within the thread itself?

@TheQuin : i was going to answer him then i remembered our discussion the last time about newbies and here is what i found...

Quote from: monbux on January 24, 2018, 06:08:22 PM

All things considered, this system is pretty cool. It is a hassle to have to go to a separate page to give points to a post - is it possible to implement this within the thread itself?

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2814

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

The link is in the post itself - what's wrong with that?

I like it, it avoids giving merit to the wrong post.

TheQuin

hero member

Activity: 2576

Merit: 883

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Quote from: main320 on May 25, 2018, 02:06:09 AM

I can not raise my merit with much trouble.
I need help, how to increase Merit Experts tell me...

Start off by learning to search for things rather than ask. Spend 10x as much time reading as you do posting. If you had done that you would have found some of the countless threads already posted on the subject. Here's one to start you off: TMAN'S guide to getting merit..

main320

newbie

Activity: 252

Merit: 0

I can not raise my merit with much trouble.
I need help, how to increase Merit Experts tell me...

motienvolam

member

Activity: 291

Merit: 20

I love my wife and my little girl

Quote from: athanz88 on May 24, 2018, 08:51:41 PM

Even though it will (maybe) bother some merit sources (because maybe they will get non stop PM containing a merit begging message), i would like to see it too. Adding some data like number of merits has been given by them personally would be great for the thread. Hope you can make it.

I don't think so, mate.
Without such proposed data, users can easily find who are merit sources if they spend time and pay attention.
However, the problem is merit beggars always tend to beg for merits with foolish efforts, like PM spamming message to ask for merits, shitty posts, etc.
Therefore, I don't think the forum should have available efficient tools for shitposters to identify merit sources more easily.

athanz88

sr. member

Activity: 476

Merit: 359

Quote from: JayJuanGee on May 24, 2018, 08:37:42 PM

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 24, 2018, 08:08:28 PM

Quote from: Husires on May 24, 2018, 05:28:05 PM

Is this allowed create " Unofficial List of Bitcointalk Merit Source Users"?

You can have a good idea on who are sources here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat, we can assume 90% of them are sources.

I have a list of all merit sources, want to shear it.

Maybe you could start a thread with that information, and then post a link in this thread? Personally, I would suggest that you describe your methodology regarding how you reach such conclusions, too.

I will look at your thread and comment on it, if you make it.

Even though it will (maybe) bother some merit sources (because maybe they will get non stop PM containing a merit begging message), i would like to see it too. Adding some data like number of merits has been given by them personally would be great for the thread. Hope you can make it.

JayJuanGee

legendary

Activity: 3892

Merit: 11105

Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 24, 2018, 08:08:28 PM

Quote from: Husires on May 24, 2018, 05:28:05 PM

Is this allowed create " Unofficial List of Bitcointalk Merit Source Users"?

You can have a good idea on who are sources here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat, we can assume 90% of them are sources.

I have a list of all merit sources, want to shear it.

Maybe you could start a thread with that information, and then post a link in this thread? Personally, I would suggest that you describe your methodology regarding how you reach such conclusions, too.

I will look at your thread and comment on it, if you make it.

coinlocket$

legendary

Activity: 2534

Merit: 1517

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Quote from: Husires on May 24, 2018, 05:28:05 PM

Is this allowed create " Unofficial List of Bitcointalk Merit Source Users"?

You can have a good idea on who are sources here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat, we can assume 90% of them are sources.

JayJuanGee

legendary

Activity: 3892

Merit: 11105

Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: Husires on May 24, 2018, 05:28:05 PM

Is this allowed create " Unofficial List of Bitcointalk Merit Source Users"?

Personally, I don't see any problem with such an attempt at a list, as long as you make it fairly clear in the OP of the thread (and I would suggest a separate thread for such) that you are attempting to speculate .. and of course, that the list is an unofficial speculation, and peeps with authority and insight as to the truth of the matter asserted, such as theymos, might admit or deny some of the speculations that come out through the thread.

Someone correct me if I am wrong about the fact that such speculation about who might be merit sources would not break any forum rules, even though theymos himself said that he was not going to create such an official list and he asserted that with the passage of time, it would likely become apparent who some of the merit sources are.

With such passage of time of about 4 months at this time, sometimes the evidence of merit sources seems to be fairly clear, and sometimes some members have actually admitted that they are merit sources too.

I suppose the main problem of such a list, if there were one, is that there would be one spot that merit beggers could go to attempt to "hit up" folks on the list, and maybe some members (and/or theymos) would be opposed to such list based on that possibility, perhaps?

Husires

legendary

Activity: 1596

Merit: 1288

Is this allowed" Unofficial List of Bitcointalk Merit Source Users"?

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