Topic: Merit sources should be increase in no. - page 2. (Read 1142 times)

This can be true, maybe than the number of sources is not the problem even if some areas of forum are very low "merited". What do you think than to set the min sMerit sendable up to 2 from 1? (for abuser noting will change, it will help the avarege poster.

No one said that there must be reviewed single post. 80 source is more than enough.
Now look that statistics in reality: From 467 average registration, 465 is potential spammer/unusable for forum. From 8572 post, 8300 is spam. And from 345 topic, 320 is spam too. Just look titles of threads, you'll believe my words.

Yes, I agree. It's like finding good ICO to invest. 

I've found one just a couple of hour ago, it's a very interesting post, very helpful and I think worthy of receiving merits. I'd like to merit it but I have 0 sendable merits. Here's the post, Where the Merit Pours?

You must be joking. The number of shitposts in this forum is so huge that merit sources would actually have to be ninjas to actually be able to merit all worthy posts and not overlook any.

I have no idea what you mean by "scale-able" in this context though.


Merit sources are increasing. There is a method to apply as merit source as well. Also theymos has advised local board posters to apply as merit sources so that people who post in the local threads will also have a chance to earn some merits.

True the distribution of merit sources patrolling is having a lower "exposure" - but only time can tell how it will go.

I think you have a valid point from the point of view that 80 people will be tasked to view that number of posts per day. Not considering the fact that they also have other commitments on the forum to attend to. I for myself know that I believe that I have some number very merit worthy posts, since the merit system was implemented, however my merits gained so far was when I directly and deliberately  applied/posted into one of those threads that were awarding merits for quality posts. Other than that, I would still be overlooked.

of course, looking at what you have in your profile sending the merit is never an issue, is quite a huge task as you said to locate quality post within the Bitcoin forum, the community is quite a large one and is very much scalable.

Crypto society is not another uptopian or cyberpunk society. It is the same as the normal society that you have grown up in. If you mean to say that because of signature campaigns and bounties in this forum - there is an increase in price of crypto then my friend you are grossly mistaken. This would be a good topic of disucussion but this is not the place nor time for that.

Bounty "politics" will not change - and even changing then will bring up a lot of uproar from the shitposter mobs in the forum. So get used to it and stop complaining.

The "bounty hunting" (lol) scumbag merit-hunters dont deserve a single merit on any of their posts. Let them make half-English vomit posts and be a cry-baby if then cant accept and move on.

It doesn't mean that the forum should lessen their rules to allow spammers ranking up and spreading their shits around the forum, getting money from campaigns and get out, eventually leaving the forum as a open-landfill.

come on my friend. almost everyone here want crypto society to grow. because without growing society the price of bitcoin will not grow. the only chance to reduce the number of posts is changing bounty program politics on the forum.

It doesn't matter to increase merit sources or not if those sources perform well. Saying perform well, by which I mean those sources keep rewarding merits to only deserved threads, not shitty ones. If they keep doing their good Quality Assessment Tasks, only constructive users can rank up, regardless of how many sources existed in the forum.
It doesn't matter with them.

Dont consider the merit sources alone, also there is a secondary source from those they give merit to.    So its an ongoing economy with only slight inflation in the merit but so long as the forum is gaining more members actually the merit source only needs to stay in line with that population growth in order to be balanced.

Its probably true that if you are around at the time merit came into existence you actually had a much easier time then people who come later after many people have nearly exhausted their supply.   I'll probably apply to be a merit source at some point because I do look out for original interesting or informative comments, especially from the lower ranks.    I might give merit to high rank but probably only if they really make me laugh or something, where as if a very new member distinguishes themselves I would certainly reach across to make sure they get merit.
   I usually only give 1 merit because really it has to be many posts or at least a good poster should be noticed by many people.

It's not the number of merits. Increasing the number of sMerits won't do a thing if there's no meritorious post to be merited or if the threads are filled with spam posts. What OP may have been trying to say is that the current number of Merit sources may not be able to cover the threads and grant merit to the posts which deserve it since there are numerous posts in a day. If there were more merit sources, then it may be possible to find more posts to be merited among the threads.

So how does that matter? If they dont make quality posts then are not going to be awarded merits - thus they wont rank up. Having a high activity but zero merits is what is going to render their shitposting farming attempts useless. One of the reasons why merit system is Successful

Irrelevant because BUMPs are definitely not meritable. Also new bumps, if done, then previous bumps need to be deleted and there are restrictions about bumping a thread - once per 24hours.
So how does that matter at all to Merit system?

Because of people like you who make comments without having a basic understanding. Your post would be a shit-post and worth getting a demerit (if it existed) if you ask me.

Hello Kim Ji Won,

Which user did you want to discuss with?
If the user is diagran, I recommend you to snip all unused contents after clicking quote button, except the contents of diagran you wanted to discuss. Or you can snip all the contents like I did in my thread.
It is simple tip, but will help you to make your thread a little bit user-friendly, and help to protect my fingers (with your old thread, my finger hurted a bit when scrolling my computer mouse up and down to read).

Notes: The thread like yours are very popular, abundant in altcoin boards, but I don't think you should publish sort of annoying threads in Meta section, which is one of the most interesting, serious boards in bitcointalk forum.

Unfortunately merit system has failed at this part because:

1) Some people are not spamming for signature campaigns. They are increasing post count to reach junior members so that the limits regarding interval between posting and those related to Pms allowed per day could be removed. They still do not care about quality of the posts.

2) Another category is of people who are here to bump their own projects and thread and they drop some shit posts in between to remain safe.

No doubt, we see some good posts because of merit system but number of shit posts has not reduced.

Thanks for your opinion about my posts. I am visiting Altcoins section when I need info about projects I am already invested in to check the latest news and sometimes discuss with people about latest updates or development. What I don't understand is that people are quoting me very often and engage in discussion with me but nobody awards this posts. If you quote and ask questions then you found my content valuable and worth your reply so why not merit such post?

You are right that I stuck to meta section because from the time I have registered merits are the most discussed topic on the forum and I just fill obligated to follow these topics. I thought that this will be not easy to get 250 merits for Senior member rank but now this seems to be not possible at all when I think about this. Thanks to you I have my first merit and let's hope that I will see a snowball effect. I have to be a dreamer to not lose my faith totally.


Merit is for sure fighting spam especially all newbies and junior member accounts because we have to post quality answers to even dream to rank up some day. I am not so sure if merit stops higher rank users from spamming because they are comfortable with their high rank like full member and when they join a bounty and there is a time frame to post so many posts nothing can stop them from posting burst answers just to fulfill requirements of bounty campaign. Ranking up doesn't matter in such a situation so much. Burst posting for bounty and quality posting later on with no bounty requirements pressure for ranking up.

I think we are still in an experimental phase, give to the forum another 3-6 months and probably the merit sources will be increased.

I'm running out of sMerit so that's all I can give for now. I hope you accumulate more merit so that you can help other low ranking members who are having a hard time ranking up but really deserves it instead of those shitposters who only rank up because of merit farming. I always encounter you to most of the threads that I post in so I can say that you're an active member/merit source and given the chance that you can have more sMerit, you will surely help those deserving members.

In this past week I got some merited post and it was march 22 2018 post " https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32905492" see that post, I don't expect this one of my post was merited, and yeah I am trying to post some constructive post also but when I see many users didn't give some attention about their post. It was sad because if no one can merit them the circulation of merit will be low or going to stuck in one user and also lack of sendable merit is another problem.

And can I ask about the merit thing, what happen if the sendable merit were not use? Some other users are ignoring this system.

Why don’t new members qualify for receiving merit? Your argument is invalid. A lot of my merits have been spent on Members and lower ranks.

For the record, I also merit posts that I feel took a lot of time and effort to create, even if I don’t agree with what is being said. Whatever I find as being contributive overall is usually where I spend my merits.