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Topic: Merit sources should be increase in no. - page 3. (Read 1142 times)

legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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April 06, 2018, 09:17:05 PM
#23
I am a member of Bitcointalk from the last day of January which is exactly 3 months so I think this is a good time for the summary which will present a viewpoint of the new member of this forum. I have registered exactly when merit system was introduced so this topic caught my attention. I have read many merit threads and I realised one thing, that I have to write high-quality posts and give my best to achieve a higher rank in a reasonable time frame. From the beginning, I tried to write posts with minimum 100 letters in the text, wrote 30 posts (3 per week), never spammed, etc. I was quoted, people asked me questions, answered questions, tried to be helpful but still, I haven't received even one merit. I have seen in merit topic many times that high-rank members advise to newbies like me not to spam and write quality posts to get merits. My example shows clearly that this is not enough. I invite you to view my profile and evaluate my posts. I will accept criticism with understanding.

Most of your posts seem to be in Meta, Off Topic (and some cheesy "Bitcoin Discussion" topics), and Altcoin boards. I think Altcoin boards are quite lacking in merits compared to the amount of posts in them and I don't know if there is a good solution to that. I loathe visiting those boards because most of the content seems to be spammy or scammy. I also don't want to advise you to post in other boards because you should do that only if you have something to contribute, not to hunt for merits.

I merited this post as it seems to be a reasonable observation. Other than that I think you just need to keep reading, learning, don't think about merits and ranks and number of letters, post when you have something new and meaningful to say. There is no magic formula.
member
Activity: 476
Merit: 92
April 06, 2018, 08:48:37 PM
#22
I sometimes spend hours trying to find posts to leave merit.  Trying to find intelligent, helpful posts around here isn't the easiest thing to do.  I don't think lack of merit is the issue, at least for me.

I am a member of Bitcointalk from the last day of January which is exactly 3 months so I think this is a good time for the summary which will present a viewpoint of the new member of this forum. I have registered exactly when merit system was introduced so this topic caught my attention. I have read many merit threads and I realised one thing, that I have to write high-quality posts and give my best to achieve a higher rank in a reasonable time frame. From the beginning, I tried to write posts with minimum 100 letters in the text, wrote 30 posts (3 per week), never spammed, etc. I was quoted, people asked me questions, answered questions, tried to be helpful but still, I haven't received even one merit. I have seen in merit topic many times that high-rank members advise to newbies like me not to spam and write quality posts to get merits. My example shows clearly that this is not enough. I invite you to view my profile and evaluate my posts. I will accept criticism with understanding.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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April 04, 2018, 09:18:19 AM
#21
Let's not forget that the 18000 merit is actually 36000 merit once you factor in complete distribution and sMerit generation.

Well, after applying Newton's First Law of Laziness it's going to be like 12000 I think...
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18748
April 04, 2018, 08:38:19 AM
#20
Let's not forget that the 18000 merit is actually 36000 merit once you factor in complete distribution and sMerit generation.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
April 04, 2018, 08:29:21 AM
#19
Hello everyone,

Average registrations per day:    466.93
Average posts per day:    8571.87
Average topics per day:    345.21
Link to source:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats


There are only 80 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 17800 sMerit per 30 day,
here is link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources


Hence,It is not feasible for 80 people(merit sources) to review such(8571) no. post on a daily basis,
So, this is my humble request to the moderator/administrator of the forum that there is need to increase the no. Of merit sources.

There is no need to review every single post. When I see something like this:



I can skip the other 8 posts while being quite certain that I didn't miss much.

And theymos is adding new sources so your thread is quite redundant.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1517
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April 04, 2018, 07:10:30 AM
#18
I have only received 50 sMerits to distribute from the day one as a merit source. fella now so far I have received 2 sMerits in April. not all sources get equal amounts of sMerit. some humble members like BTCforJoe distributed more than me. merit source is just a name, I'm not really helping. I don't know if I have misused my source merits for not getting more or I'm just not trusted. I don't merit my friends like other sources.

If I am not wrong you will get the charge back after 1 month, not on the same day but when you spent it. For example if you spend 5 smerit on 05/04/2018 and 10 on 15/04/2018 you will get 15 sMerit but not on 1st May 2018, you will get 5 on 05/05/2018 and 10 on 15/05/2018
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 2
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April 04, 2018, 12:30:22 AM
#18
Like me, I still am not a quality poster but I'll just keep on posting until someone can finally realize that I've been trying my best here. Smiley

I just glanced over your recent posts to see if I could leave you merit for something.  Here's what stuck out to me.  Undecided

Then what do you think of it faggot?

Well this is only possible for IDIOTS.

It's only my opinion and reaction to a certain post Smiley you can actually have a look why did I write such things like that Smiley
Thanks for reviewing. And yes, there's still no post of me that deserves a Merit Smiley (Just Being Honest)
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1064
April 04, 2018, 12:42:34 AM
#17
I have only received 50 sMerits to distribute from the day one as a merit source. fella now so far I have received 2 sMerits in April. not all sources get equal amounts of sMerit. some humble members like BTCforJoe distributed more than me. merit source is just a name, I'm not really helping. I don't know if I have misused my source merits for not getting more or I'm just not trusted. I don't merit my friends like other sources.

One possibility is that you have been using up your initial sMerits which also (unfortunately) count against your source merit. If you were actually caught misusing your source merits, I don't think the punishment would be a reduction in source merits. Smiley


Also, I just realized that spending your own sMerit also counts against your source for the following 30 days. That's a bug, but I'm probably going to have to completely rewrite the sMerit-calculation algorithm to fix it...
hero member
Activity: 1680
Merit: 655
April 04, 2018, 12:23:15 AM
#16
Let us not adjust on the basis of new members registering on the forum, for all we know some if not most of those accounts are alt accounts of some users. If we increase Merit Sources in order to give more sMerits to the new users I don't think it will be a good idea as the quality of post would be lower because the chances of as having merits is bigger once we increase the number of Merit Sources.

Also the process of being a Merit Source is a tough one we cannot rush the process as the admins need to see the applications one by one, they need to see that the member is worthy of becoming one of the forum's merit sources. Members need to be screened and we cannot give the power of regenerating merits into the wrong hands.
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
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April 04, 2018, 12:10:00 AM
#15
Like me, I still am not a quality poster but I'll just keep on posting until someone can finally realize that I've been trying my best here. Smiley

I just glanced over your recent posts to see if I could leave you merit for something.  Here's what stuck out to me.  Undecided

Then what do you think of it faggot?

Well this is only possible for IDIOTS.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 2
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April 03, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
#15
I sometimes spend hours trying to find posts to leave merit.  Trying to find intelligent, helpful posts around here isn't the easiest thing to do.  I don't think lack of merit is the issue, at least for me.
Guess you're right. The common problem here is that the new members can't achieve those requirements. They don't qualify on getting Merit, but as we can also see that some people can do this right but they've been put onto ignore in their past days by some Merit Givers. If only there are some people who are willing to spend their precious time on finding those quality posts and give it to the Merit Sources then the distribution of Merits would be easy.

Like me, I still am not a quality poster but I'll just keep on posting until someone can finally realize that I've been trying my best here. Smiley So I think no need for whining, spamming or even creating such a foolish thread. Just enjoy on posting and have it their way of they give you some Merit or not.
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
April 03, 2018, 12:52:33 PM
#14
I sometimes spend hours trying to find posts to leave merit.  Trying to find intelligent, helpful posts around here isn't the easiest thing to do.  I don't think lack of merit is the issue, at least for me.
member
Activity: 476
Merit: 92
April 03, 2018, 12:06:17 PM
#13
I have only received 50 sMerits to distribute from the day one as a merit source. fella now so far I have received 2 sMerits in April. not all sources get equal amounts of sMerit. some humble members like BTCforJoe distributed more than me. merit source is just a name, I'm not really helping. I don't know if I have misused my source merits for not getting more or I'm just not trusted. I don't merit my friends like other sources.

I don't know how much merits as a source you should get but are you sure that you are a merit source?

Sorry maybe this is a stupid question but from what I see you don't know too much about merit sources so how could you be one of them?

I think there should be invitation via PM or something with an explanation when you are chosen as merit source and you seem to have no idea about this.

Are you sure that you are not farming accounts or an alt of somebody else? because you seem sure that I'm not sure if I'm a merit source or not. why should we care what you think about the merit source selection process? have I benefited by being a source other than making don and his birdies as my enemies? should I be the one to blame if you are the one who is not sure what he is talking about?

From what you see, what is it that you can see in my post above indicating of my ignorance about merit sources? you didn't check my merit stats to see that I have sent out more than my initial 86 sMerits and my own 36 sMerits. you just wanted to say that I'm stupid and don't know what I'm talking about.

No Digaran, I don't want to say that you are stupid or insult you in any other way. I just asked if you are sure because I thought that each merit source should be informed about everything that is needed to work as merit source and about merit system.  

This is:
-how much merits you get,
-how to award members,
-etc.  

You were not sure why you get not as many merits as other sources that let me think that maybe you are a random member who thinks that he is a merit source and in reality, he gets few merits together with his high rank when merit system was introduced.

That is why I asked my question and from what user TheUltraElite says every merit source was fully informed.

... The Merit sources are in the forum among us and those who are merit sources were, when selected during initial implementation were informed by theymos. Others who apply as merit sources wait for their applications to be responded to by theymos. While digaran themselves publicly said about being a merit source, you can cross check this by looking at the merit stats here:
...

Once again never wanted to insult anybody and I never said that you are stupid Digaran.

Peace.
jr. member
Activity: 145
Merit: 2
April 03, 2018, 10:54:57 AM
#12
Hello everyone,

Average registrations per day:    466.93
Average posts per day:    8571.87
Average topics per day:    345.21
Link to source:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats


There are only 80 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 17800 sMerit per 30 day,
here is link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources


Hence,It is not feasible for 80 people(merit sources) to review such(8571) no. post on a daily basis,
So, this is my humble request to the moderator/administrator of the forum that there is need to increase the no. Of merit sources.

of the 8000 posts 90% of them will be shit, so I think its fine as it is fella.
I am also agree with your opinion,but how can we decide without seeing them.Atleast we have enough resource ,so we can atleast review all of them properly.After that we can decide ,it is good post or not.

very good discussion.
I also strongly agree with your opinion. but to solve this problem, we must study deeply so as not to blame and mislead others.
and together looking for a solution
copper member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 899
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April 03, 2018, 09:59:36 AM
#11
I have only received 50 sMerits to distribute from the day one as a merit source. fella now so far I have received 2 sMerits in April. not all sources get equal amounts of sMerit. some humble members like BTCforJoe distributed more than me. merit source is just a name, I'm not really helping. I don't know if I have misused my source merits for not getting more or I'm just not trusted. I don't merit my friends like other sources.

I don't know how much merits as a source you should get but are you sure that you are a merit source?

Sorry maybe this is a stupid question but from what I see you don't know too much about merit sources so how could you be one of them?

I think there should be invitation via PM or something with an explanation when you are chosen as merit source and you seem to have no idea about this.

Are you sure that you are not farming accounts or an alt of somebody else? because you seem sure that I'm not sure if I'm a merit source or not. why should we care what you think about the merit source selection process? have I benefited by being a source other than making don and his birdies as my enemies? should I be the one to blame if you are the one who is not sure what he is talking about?

From what you see, what is it that you can see in my post above indicating of my ignorance about merit sources? you didn't check my merit stats to see that I have sent out more than my initial 86 sMerits and my own 36 sMerits. you just wanted to say that I'm stupid and don't know what I'm talking about.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
April 03, 2018, 09:23:15 AM
#10
I don't know how much merits as a source you should get but are you sure that you are a merit source?
LOL, Merit sources get their sMerits refilled every month so that they can distribute them for that month.

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Sorry maybe this is a stupid question but from what I see you don't know too much about merit sources so how could you be one of them?
I think there should be invitation via PM or something with an explanation when you are chosen as merit source and you seem to have no idea about this.
A stupid question indeed. In fact you need to learn more about the merit system first. The Merit sources are in the forum among us and those who are merit sources were, when selected during initial implementation were informed by theymos. Others who apply as merit sources wait for their applications to be responded to by theymos. While digaran themselves publicly said about being a merit source, you can cross check this by looking at the merit stats here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats

and this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat
member
Activity: 476
Merit: 92
April 03, 2018, 08:12:38 AM
#9
Hello everyone,

Average registrations per day:    466.93
Average posts per day:    8571.87
Average topics per day:    345.21
Link to source:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats


There are only 80 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 17800 sMerit per 30 day,
here is link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources


Hence,It is not feasible for 80 people(merit sources) to review such(8571) no. post on a daily basis,
So, this is my humble request to the moderator/administrator of the forum that there is need to increase the no. Of merit sources.

of the 8000 posts 90% of them will be shit, so I think its fine as it is fella.
I am also agree with your opinion,but how can we decide without seeing them.Atleast we have enough resource ,so we can atleast review all of them properly.After that we can decide ,it is good post or not.

80 sources/8000 posts = 100 posts a day.. give it a chance to work before suggesting any changes as a thinly veiled way of asking for merits

I have only received 50 sMerits to distribute from the day one as a merit source. fella now so far I have received 2 sMerits in April. not all sources get equal amounts of sMerit. some humble members like BTCforJoe distributed more than me. merit source is just a name, I'm not really helping. I don't know if I have misused my source merits for not getting more or I'm just not trusted. I don't merit my friends like other sources.

I don't know how much merits as a source you should get but are you sure that you are a merit source?

Sorry maybe this is a stupid question but from what I see you don't know too much about merit sources so how could you be one of them?

I think there should be invitation via PM or something with an explanation when you are chosen as merit source and you seem to have no idea about this.
copper member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 899
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April 03, 2018, 07:40:19 AM
#8
Hello everyone,

Average registrations per day:    466.93
Average posts per day:    8571.87
Average topics per day:    345.21
Link to source:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats


There are only 80 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 17800 sMerit per 30 day,
here is link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources


Hence,It is not feasible for 80 people(merit sources) to review such(8571) no. post on a daily basis,
So, this is my humble request to the moderator/administrator of the forum that there is need to increase the no. Of merit sources.

of the 8000 posts 90% of them will be shit, so I think its fine as it is fella.
I am also agree with your opinion,but how can we decide without seeing them.Atleast we have enough resource ,so we can atleast review all of them properly.After that we can decide ,it is good post or not.

80 sources/8000 posts = 100 posts a day.. give it a chance to work before suggesting any changes as a thinly veiled way of asking for merits

I have only received 50 sMerits to distribute from the day one as a merit source. fella now so far I have received 2 sMerits in April. not all sources get equal amounts of sMerit. some humble members like BTCforJoe distributed more than me. merit source is just a name, I'm not really helping. I don't know if I have misused my source merits for not getting more or I'm just not trusted. I don't merit my friends like other sources.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1517
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April 03, 2018, 06:41:08 AM
#7
I don't know if we need more merit sources depends how numbers will go this month (on March we got -30% sMerit from start to end) but for sure we need a better distrubition, some source use merit only on one topic or few topics.

legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 6089
bitcoindata.science
April 03, 2018, 06:32:27 AM
#6
I agree with TMAN. As most of the posts are shitposts, some merit sources can do the job.

But I think in local sessions we still have a problem.

I was taking a look at zentdex's Where the Merit Pours? and found this image


There are clearly local board with lack of sources. My local board for example, Portuguese, has zero merit sources. Turkish, Russian and Indonesian has plenty merit sources, much more than the other boards.

I will try to make some better analysis of my local board merit with the merit.txt data in future.
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