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motienvolam

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Shitposters should be eliminated totally out of the forum.

Quote from: TheUltraElite on April 15, 2018, 10:40:51 AM

See people who come to this forum to do only bounties and airdrops are always looked down upon as the bottomfeeder shitposter squad.

It's one of the good, amazing effects of merit system on forum users, particularly shitposters. Some of them have changed, and will keep changing to adapt to the merit system in positively directions.

Quote from: TheUltraElite on April 15, 2018, 10:40:51 AM

Now if they eually contribute to discussions and they also do some bounties, it shows that they are not some beggar sort of shitposter and in the long run will able to earn some merits if they make quality posts.

Life is unfair for everyone. Each person has his/her own starting point, background (merit points in the case of bitcointalk forum members); but over long period of time, they can reach to the same targets if they tried to do it. Just set up your targets, work hard, you will reach to your targets someday.

Quote from: TheUltraElite on April 15, 2018, 10:40:51 AM

Its not a question of being fair or not. In my opinion it is unfair and this is a good thing for the forum.

TheUltraElite

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Activity: 2898

Merit: 1253

So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Quote from: bixbem90 on April 14, 2018, 03:11:02 PM

As i know a lot of member at bitcointalk only do their task for join bounty, such as: Facebook, Twitter, Make Videos, Articles and they using multi account to join it. I have manage one campaign which have over 70% is Newbie and JR.Member; they post report day by day and increasing their activity obviously. Do you think they deserve to receive merits with only report post? I think Merits System is fairly for everyone, but it should be have limited on some subjects such as: Reputation, Speculator, Bounty Thread (Alts or BTC) instead of at all subjects like now.

See people who come to this forum to do only bounties and airdrops are always looked down upon as the bottomfeeder shitposter squad. Now if they eually contribute to discussions and they also do some bounties, it shows that they are not some beggar sort of shitposter and in the long run will able to earn some merits if they make quality posts.

Its not a question of being fair or not. In my opinion it is unfair and this is a good thing for the forum. People here hardly interact in their posts even if someone replies them in the Bitcoin Discussion and Economics, Altcoin Discussion sections. Let alone the ANN sections which is full of shitposters. The merit sources will have a sort of "favoritism" and this is good for the forum.

jumbo

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Activity: 79

Merit: 29

I do not see how you've built a reasoning for that claim.

Honestly, if you see to happenings in a relatively close time period, that doesn't mean that they a related at all. There always was a ton of low-quality posts a with poor grammar. missing punctuation or an absent text structure. You have no case, unless you can provide some verifiable statistics, where it is clearly shown, that the average quality of text among all posts have risen or the share of post with no point is skyrocketing. or whatever else property you want would pick as a rubbish post characteristics.

There is very low if no correlation between the number of rubbish posts and an earned merit. Why would anyone give a merit for a rubbish post? People won;t give it away easily, if it was earned hard way. That's a simple logic, it actually works for the majority.

bixbem90

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Activity: 420

Merit: 259

As i know a lot of member at bitcointalk only do their task for join bounty, such as: Facebook, Twitter, Make Videos, Articles and they using multi account to join it. I have manage one campaign which have over 70% is Newbie and JR.Member; they post report day by day and increasing their activity obviously. Do you think they deserve to receive merits with only report post? I think Merits System is fairly for everyone, but it should be have limited on some subjects such as: Reputation, Speculator, Bounty Thread (Alts or BTC) instead of at all subjects like now.

reactgirolles6

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Merit: 0

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The Sceptical Chymist

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There will come a point, probably when Jr. Member accounts start having 600 activity but still with 15 merits, that these shitposters will throw in the towel. They will realize then that they've put in so much "effort" (they're deluding themselves) and haven't gotten anywhere. And then they'll finally say forget it and give up their dreams of having a stay-at-home writing job that takes zero effort.

They'll ultimately realize where zero effort gets you on bitcointalk. It'll take some time, because the spammers are stubborn and ignorant, but it's a realization that will have to happen.

Quote from: sashasasha on April 13, 2018, 03:21:57 PM

I can will agree only that Merit - the system removing superfluous.

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Quote from: Naitik on February 03, 2018, 07:16:30 AM

Definitely Yes jerry! The hoard behind getting the merit points is very brutal. everyone wants merit points for the higher post on the forum & trying to all the tactics to get the merit points because something is not going right.
I have seen some posts which are getting merit points for the rubbish. May be some posts have some meaning that describe only by the person. But taunting a person for a post may also give you 8 merit points. I am amazed.
And one post got 18 merit points from 5 person for writing nothing.

The reason why they get merit even though their post is rubbish is because they abuse merit system. Some members in this forum won't give merit even they have lots of smerits they won't just merit someone that has reasonable and understandable high quality post that deserves a merit instead they sell their smerits or exchange smerit to smerit.

ankurguta87

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Activity: 364

Merit: 117

Quote from: jerry29@ on February 03, 2018, 06:57:43 AM

Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?

I am also coming up with same observations. Ppl in the forum are creating unnecessary posts. Being over helpful to get merits.
This merit system is destroying the actual meaning and existence of the forum.

fuck4ass

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Activity: 56

Merit: 1

Quote from: jerry29@ on February 03, 2018, 06:57:43 AM

Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?

I think this is absolutely true! the more people who pursue merit, the more shitposter that makes the posts not qualified. This will only make the forum dirty. Although the merit system encourages users to become more enthusiastic to perform quality posts. Because of the excessive spirit that arose post that I think less qualified.

sashasasha

newbie

Activity: 210

Merit: 0

I can will agree only that Merit - the system removing superfluous.

knackergays8

newbie

Activity: 68

Merit: 0

But you missed the point atlast those fake guys are getting banned only and that's good

hygroscopicgymnasium3

newbie

Activity: 74

Merit: 0

Yes it makes difference by hardening the task for the newbies to get promoted to higher user level

TheUltraElite

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Activity: 2898

Merit: 1253

So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Quote from: startblouse8 on April 09, 2018, 12:26:50 PM

You are right developer should approve some quality test before entering the forum so that the fake crypto bots can be prevented

Why dont you create some bot for countering these bots and then we can all be happy? The forum has some bounty managers who check posts/tweets using bots. I dont know if its ethical or if it reduced labour at all but its there. Then we have bot-posting shitposters - they quickly get nuked though.

A lot of things have been thought out by many people in the forum for its development. Have you seen the beta.bitcointalk - I believe that is the correct link, where a lot of changes have been done since epochtalk migration will happen - but nobody knows the ETA.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: coin5haker on April 09, 2018, 12:53:33 PM

I can see it made some difference. For instance in my behavior. Now I'm trying to stay away from topics with more than 10 pages, with obvious replies. Crap like "Is it too late to invest in bitcoin" or "Next altcoin which makes you a millionaire". Now I'm out of bounties, which only counted post in Altcoins section (like Credits.com despite it was my best bounty so far).

You don't have to exit bounties altogether. Since posting in that section only takes very short replies, you ought to be able to post interesting stuff and still be able to do them--at least I'd hope so.

Not posting in those spam threads is definitely a good idea, though. No one reads crap like "Buy or sell" or "Bitcoin vs. gold". The only reason I ever visit such nonsense threads is to report shitposters, as Bitcoin Discussion and Economics are full of them. You'd think people would have figured out by now that there's nothing to be gained in terms of earning merit or ranking up by writing crap one-liners in those sections, but nope. As long as these altcoin bounties keep taking Jr. Members and don't put any kind of restrictions on them, it's going to keep happening.

The real problem is that the spamming has creeped into Meta in threads about merit, and that's really unfortunate.

coin5haker

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I can see it made some difference. For instance in my behavior. Now I'm trying to stay away from topics with more than 10 pages, with obvious replies. Crap like "Is it too late to invest in bitcoin" or "Next altcoin which makes you a millionaire". Now I'm out of bounties, which only counted post in Altcoins section (like Credits.com despite it was my best bounty so far).

startblouse8

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Merit: 0

You are right developer should approve some quality test before entering the forum so that the fake crypto bots can be prevented

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Quote from: hurry_hore on April 07, 2018, 02:21:38 AM

Quote from: jerry29@ on February 03, 2018, 06:57:43 AM

Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?

From number post view, probably your saying is right. But it will be better to show data rather than assumption, hope the data to be verified and validated. Just to respond your assumption that now people is posting as many as possible just to get merit, I disagree with that because it will be useless. I think more people now leave unmeaning post and tend to meaningful even not in high quality and constructive.

Do you understand Hurry.... that Jerry29 is exactly right and your post only confirms this theory 100%. Jerry writes that now spammers are climbing to the heights of their intelligence in order to write a post of at least one hundred signs and not deviating from the subject too much. Only to bump to the top of the thread and hopefully receive merit. You are doing exactly what Jerry is writing about. Responding to his earlier post with completely pointless and nonsense conclusions in broken English this is new kind of sophisticated spam and the peak of perfidy.

hurry_hore

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Quote from: jerry29@ on February 03, 2018, 06:57:43 AM

Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?

From number post view, probably your saying is right. But it will be better to show data rather than assumption, hope the data to be verified and validated. Just to respond your assumption that now people is posting as many as possible just to get merit, I disagree with that because it will be useless. I think more people now leave unmeaning post and tend to meaningful even not in high quality and constructive.

tbct_mt2

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Merit: 838

They actually have their own interests, so let's them free and focus on what they aim at when joining the forum.
I guess their main objectives to join this place are for earning 'free - almost free' money and sell them all to get fiats.
Free money because we can see dozens of shitty campaigns which don't have strict rules on the participants or supporters.

Quote from: W2014 on April 06, 2018, 07:37:05 AM

Yes, thats my words, there are people who dont care about merit

If they don't need to rank up, let them stuck at their current ranks. Some abusers can keep ranking up through merit exchanges. Nevertheless, this approach will lead to serious punishments on them in the future because the forum moderators are extremely strict. Be careful when you have intention to do merit abusements.

Quote from: W2014 on April 06, 2018, 07:37:05 AM

and will get stuck on junior member for the whole life. If they are banned for spam - they will create a new account.

Paul karet

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Merit: 0

thank you, everyone, who is on this topic.
I can learn about merit.
what it means, functions, and how to get a merit.
I just understood.

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